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I'm enthousiast to say that I have found a theory to explain the big paradox that bridges the Giant and Tag der Toten, and simultaneously the Cycle and the Broken Cycle. Both outcomes of the Multiverse requires the other one to exist, but how can this paradox be explained? Big thanks to @Forest Fire with his interesting discussions and thoughts on this subject, which sparked the idea of this thread. Also, you need a bunch of Cristopher Nolan brains for this one, so good luck. A Paradoxal Prologue A discovery made by no one else than our @clueless himself was a paradox that emerges in the Giant, a paradox that is proof that the Cycle has been broken before…
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Hi guys, There is a runic language that has shown up a few times over the years which (unlike Keeper and Apothicon) has never been solved. It has only had a few appearances I can find, if you are aware of any others please share! The first instance I can find is the MOTD pap camo. This identical camo later shows up as the pap camo in Shadows of Evil. Again, it was reused as a "Black Market" camo in BO3 named Ritual, and a reactive camo in BO4 named Afterlife. All of these instances seem to all use the same three runes however. There is one other appearance of these typpe of runes though. They show up on the "Summon" m…
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Intro Bringing up some occurances of this recurring theme for discussion 🙂 In no particular order. If you can think of any more or have any ideas please discuss below! Examples 1) Archangel (Origins) The most clear example. 2) Chronicles Trailer This goes with the "minds eye" metaphor angle. 3) Physical globes Black egg looks much like a leyline globe Summoning key VERY similar + apothicon influence Shang meteor looks a lot like a globe also. But this time with physical geography instead of leylines. Conclusion Of course the obvious thematic interpretation is …
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Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Order of Forgotten Mysteries! Today we will be discussing a topic that has been around for years with no definitive answer in sight, and even with the release of Alpha Omega the question is raised again: What do the Zombies' eyes signify? This seemed like a simple question with a simple answer: It's about who's in control. However, this assertion has been challenged a couple of times in the past, and now this mystery has still yet to be solved. Let's review the known eye colors and the maps they appear in. Yellow/Orange Maps: Nacht, Verruckt, Shi No Numa, Der Riese, Kino, "Five", Ascension, C…
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Intro Hello again, today I’m bringing a little brain food for you all to chew on. 🧠 @anonymous mentioned in a recent discussion the various different depictions of a “soul” we see through the Aether story. Which prompted some digging. After some research, I realised that every different depiction of the mind/body/soul we see through the story relates to a section of the soul as viewed by the ancient Egyptians. (that’s right, these guys who made a very brief cameo in the Buried intro cutscene) Disclaimer: All these aspects were considered “different” parts of the soul from the perspective of the Ancient Egyptians. However they ha…
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This topic sort of came to me out of nowhere, and I wanted to share my thoughts because I don't think I've seen really any discussion on the topic. In Revelations, there are two stand out radios in which Dr. Monty simply recites lines from famous literature: From Shakespeare's The Tempest: From Dante's Inferno (The Divine Comedy): Because of the old fashioned language and seeming randomness of these references, I don't think they were given much thought before. But I got curious recently about the origins of these quotes and what they could mean from Monty's point of view. What do they say about his situation in…
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Some time ago, our comrades @RadZakpak and @Carnage Evoker had a rather interesting discussion about the appearance and role of green light throughout several zombie maps. Green light doesn't appear often, but when it does it is exclusively associated with a paranormal and unnatural event. We have experienced it in: The Shadows of Evil intro cutscene, every time a character commits a murder. The green lantern post in Morg City. The green lanterns in Tranzit, allowing Denizens to dig a hole. The portals appearing around a stone pillar upon doing a 'skull cleansing ritual' in Zetsubou. The light of the submarine beams in Call of the Dead, all…
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"I know the Shadowman is probably talking to you. Don't trust him! He's evil. I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. I bet he's saying all sorts of terrible things, spreading all kinds of rumours about me. By the way, I spell rumours with a U. After the O, before the R. That's a nice little easter egg. In fact, it's everything." – Dr. Monty An U after the O and before the R. It has been generally speculated that this refers to the universe existing between Origins and Revelations. We know that Origins was the start of Primis’ quest, and Revelations the finale. But if this would concern Primis’ journey, it would not limit itself to a universe but to the enti…
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September 2th, 1944: "Pablo Marinus, a Mexican spy, is captured by Group 935 at Der Eisendrache." Did anyone ever also wonder why a spy from Mexico had infiltrated Group 935? Surely it could be one of the many random nationalities that worked at the international organization that Group 935 was, but that would be too lame for us story enthusiasts right? Pablo may have been working for Group 935 because he comes from the country of origin of the Aztec and Maya: Mesoamerican societies that hold a grand mystery because most of their culture was wiped out in the post-Columbian years, and we therefore know relatively little about them. This gap of historical record…
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So many years on, and still there is a lot about Black Ops III's zombies iteration that we do not fully understand. Specifically, there are several radios from some version of Maxis speaking about a timeline full of radiation, where his children are destroyed before his eyes. Maybe it's a fool's errand, but I want to crack this and figure out the truth of the matter. I think I have some leads as to what might truly be going on. Let's start after Buried. As the timeline states: A key detail in the wording here is that Samantha only reaches out to the Dimension 63 version of her father after a rift opens. This leaves an opening for more to be going on b…
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"Stormbound" by Kevin Sherwood is a song that released with the Chaos map "Ancient Evil", and for that reason it has been viewed as being intrinsically tied to the Chaos story along with "Drowning" and "Mystery", but I think there's another way to look at the song. Kevin is no stranger to double meanings in his songs, with some meanings sometimes only becoming apparent when looking back years later. I think it is worth re-examining these songs through the lens of the Aether story as well, especially considering that this very song is referenced in "Alone" which follows the Aether story. "Stormbound" in particular has many elements that can tie it to Aether very nicely, an…
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Today I thought I would make a thread with less focus on lore, and more on a specific theme that I believe permeated the Aether story between Black Ops 3 and 4, that being the theme of Free will. Free will is defined as "the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion." It allows us to make choices, good and bad, that can affect ourselves and those around us. All of human history is made up of choices based on free will. Interestingly, Dr. Monty goes out of his way in Revelations to tell us that it was, in fact, HIS idea to give us free will: If Monty desired to, he c…
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Throughout the Zombies season of Black Ops II, each of the Victis maps was released alongside an entry of Maxis diary. As for Tranzit and Buried, these excerpts made chronologically sense as they seemed to be written by Maxis around the time these maps took place, and it regarded the destruction of Earth and Maxis' wish to reunite with his daughter Samantha. The diary excerpt released alongside Die Rise, however, can be noted as totally out of place, as it regards test trials of the MTD conducted by Dr. Maxis and Richtofen at the Der Riese facility, in 1945. From the Zombies Timeline we learned that the test trial described here took place on October the 1…
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Okay I've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole in the CIA servers and am at a loss and also my head hurts so here's what I've got: On October 24, 1955 Vannevar Bush sends a message to J. Robert Oppenheimer with poems written by John "Banana" which were recovered at Verruckt. Here's an excerpt from that message: DK-MFK is a hint on how to login to the CIA account of someone named D. King. When you log into his account, you find only one irrelevant email that was sent to all users about cupcakes. However, he has many .txt files that contain haikus, and one image. The haikus are related to missions in the campaign, basically explaining what happens in each, with …
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Eric Maynard made this post on Twitter today about someone who contacted Stuhlinger's VA, Dave Boat, and he confirmed that Stuhlinger was at one point a CIA agent. Similar to the Group 601 images released recently, I'd take this with somewhat of a grain of salt since in-game this hasn't been explicitly confirmed since the character was introduced. But this inspired me to at least entertain the idea of Samuel Stuhlinger actually being a CIA agent at one point, and that most, if not all, of his crazy ramblings are real. So I've listened to all of his quotes from TranZit, Die Rise, and Buried to collect all quotes that reference something otherworldly…
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So yesterday @RadZakpak and me were in a discussion about the meaning of the classic comicbook pages we see as loading screens in Black Ops I and II. What always striked me, is that the style of drawing is different between Black Ops I + Nuketown Zombies if you compare it to those of the Black Ops II Victis maps. Artstyle 1 Spoiler Artstyle 2 Spoiler As you can see, the BO1+NKZ comic pages look more childish and colourful, while Die Rise and Buried's look more realistic. Now it was Rad's idea that the comic page…
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Guten abend everyone, it is that time again for our weekly discussions in the Order of the Forgotten Mysteries. As you might see, this is episode 10 already, which is why I'd be proud to celebrate! How? In honour of @RadZakpak, who did an awesome job helping me with the Order, I'll devote this thread to one of his first discussion posts, debating the subject of the time between Kino der Toten and Ascension. Let the old school theorizing continue! Why Ascension is an important map Reading the Timeline scraps of Shi no Numa and Der Riese, we read that upon getting his diary back, Richthofen's plan is to simply teleporting back to the Moon and confronting…
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Hello everybody, today I will introduce you to a theory where we consider the Illuminati as the human branch of the Keepers. I made this thread as a script for a video I will start to work on soon, so I thought: Why not release it on the Forums as well? The Illuminati are considered to be the hidden rulers of the world in the Zombies universe, so how would this connection with the Keepers work out? Why do they do it, and what are the arguments? The Illuminati as the human branch of the Keepers To begin with, both the Ancient Order of the Keepers and the Illuminati are referred to as "the Order", with capital 'O'. The Illuminati are clearly aware of the ex…
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Massive credit to @EricMaynardand his source for locating this work which would have been earth-shattering back in the day. To recap, a friend of Eric located old art assets intended for BO1 Kino back in 2010 through one of the game's art director's portfolios. It's possible this was under some kind of NDA, considering it has not surfaced until now. It is a reasonable assumption that these images were going to appear on the projector rather than the images we see now (the scientist in the lab, the eyeball, and the zombies coming over the hill.) So let's go over what we're seeing and what these images could have meant. These first two images seem to…
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Hey all! First part of a duo-thread I intent to make with our friend @Rapt. Today I'm gonna deal with the House and talk about the Giant radios as well. But first start with what a pocket dimension is, and a perfect model for "pockets". Alcatraz is the most clear example of a pocket dimension, and understanding Alcatraz may prove to be a key concept in order to understand other pocket dimensions. Created by the Warden of Alcatraz, the dimension appears to be anchored to the Warden's corpse, and his soul contained within; with the souls of the four mobsters holding the dimension together. This is a similar mechanism to that of the Elemental Shard, and the souls…
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Twelve years ago we unwittingly discovered a hidden mode within Call of Duty: World at War; A mode where four marines survive against endless hordes of undead in an abandoned German bunker. That's all that the mode was for a time, but it didn't take long for the mode and its story to develop, culminating in the end of the previous multiverse, and the creation of a new one. It seems poetic, then, that the first location visited in this new universe is Nacht der Untoten. But why is this location so significant within the universe itself? Especially now that 115 and thus Group 935 are out of the picture? Last year, I made a thread documenting the bunker's many ap…
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We know that the Campaign events happen in the Original Dimension/Dimension 1, but we also know that some events in Zombies' Dimension 1 don't exactly happen the same way as they do in the Campaign. We have the 3 Moon rockets hitting Earth in 2025, and also the destruction of Earth in 2036. As you might know, BO3 & BO4's stories take place in 2065 and 2045 respectively making this not possible to be in the same continuity. We also have a small thing about the possibility of Polonsky surviving rather than Roebuck for the Campaign's, but that is not stated anywhere I can find. Also, the Nuketown in Nuketown Zombies/Alpha Omega being there even though it was presumed nuk…
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Hey all! Today Dizzie reminded me on Discord about the presence of Ultimis in Black Ops I Nacht and Verrückt, and about the canonity of that. It motivated me to write down a theory I had in my head for some time now, so here it is. Enjoy the read! First of all, I’d like to note that this idea is based on @caljitsu's “On Fractures” as groundtheory. His hypothesis states that upon the creation of a Fracture, the new reality doesn’t simply split off the old one, but rather replaces it. The amount of linear timelines remains the same, but it is merely overwritten by altering events in the past. I’ve clarified this theory with the diagram beneath, where Hypothesis …
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So I finally got around to making this post. First I want to point out that not everything discussed here is new (some stuff is actually quite old), but as far as I'm concerned the most of it is new. There are several interesting ties between events that happened IRL and the zombies lore, However, when searching "Mob of the dead" in real life, you find the famous escape story from Alcatraz. The point of this thread is to expose deeper connections to a different part in history. Since there are many connections, I'm surely going to miss a few, but you'll get the idea and the main connections. I want to start with where I started to discover these connecti…
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Today I had this random thought: Why does Victis need to get the Elemental Shard in the comics again? I've asked several other questions like it for a while now like: Why did Sophia appear in what seemed to be a Broken Arrow base? How exactly did Victis get into Zero Base? What was Primis Richtofen's plan? Because the comics are difficult to find online, the story contained within them seems to often get overlooked with the abbreviated version of events in the comics sufficing. But with Victis' story wrapped up (seemingly,) I'd like to revisit the comics and do a basic recap of events, while also discussing what we overlooked that was significant. …
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