nayrcraig

well i thought they where all just drunk lol looks like i was wrong

1st i dont remember there being any definite proof that they went straight from shino numa to der riese personally i think it could have been the other way round but that's a different story 2nd does the shino numa trailer not explain how they got to the map?

yea for me running round in war room works very good if you have 4 people there is a few different things but war room is some thing i always see people resorting to online

One thing that sticks out of me is it slightly resembles the EAR from the kino projections

Ok I have come to a personal conclusion I am not saying it's right but it is what I belive Kino is in the 60s but the guns, Nazi flags and dated letter are allthere to show that time travel has messes the time up ie.there is things that shouldn't still be there and things that shouldn't be there yet

Also getting ready for update1 adding more stuff for the "clarck is" side if you have any ideas or theory or stuff I missed for other threads please let me no and I will add it

must have just been a problem with it loading the monkey is still there

yea but a pentagon "theift" wouldnt exacly be working in the pentagon would he also when he enter the pentagon it says breach detected in lvl3 ie. he should'nt normaly be there

also happens in the stakeout and speed cola room, why these 2 rooms? i refuse to believe treyarch have made it that difficult to unlock an easter egg hmm...have you by any chance done the Easter egg in ascension?

ahh the classic walk through smoke trick lol but fave had to be the nuke town one

4. put a circle of treadmills pointed outwards around your house/base

but then again they are smart enofe to walk straight through a eletrical/fire barrier and under a large spining thing at exacly there head hight :lol:

if i can help in any way i will also on skype same name as on here

note:this is in a very earliy stage and i hope i can update it often also i am not one sided of the identity of the thieft as i have swayed from to and against this theory but am currently, against i know there is already a forum on this subject made by anti earth (witch as far as i know has the most views and posts in the "five" section of the forums) but i want to make my own topic posting both sides of the theroy as i think what i plan to do would in my mind be to large to be a comment in the topic already made (i will be taking alot of info from anti earths topic but i am refining alot of it into a smaller cleaner forum if anti has any problems i will happliy delete anything from his forum) first the things that created to first connections to clarck 1. the identical face writing clarck(below) theift (below) and as well as that the is some similarity in facial features - CLARKE has GREY hair | THIEF has GREY hair (intel - "Hair:Grey") - THIEF is a SCIENTIST | CLARKE is a scientist (intel - "[Clarke] was outset from various SCIENTIFIC communities") - CLARKE has hair on the TOP and SIDES of his head | THIEF has hair on TOP and SIDES of his head - CLARKE has a moustahce and short beard | THIEF has prominent stuble around the mouth! (below from intel on numbers) Subject: Clarke, Daniel Place of Birth: Oxford, England, UK Nationality: English D.O.B: 07/10/1923 Age: 44 (which makes the year 1967) Height: 6'1'' Build: Thin Weight: 175lbs Eyes: Brown Hair: Grey SUMMARY PROFILE: "Once upon a time, Clarke was an idealist and a staunch member of the British Communist Party in the 1940s. As tensions rose and the Cold War escalated, he was ousted from various scientific spcoetoes due to his open and regularly vocalised political opinions. As McCarthyism took hold in the US, similiar sentiments spread to the United Kingdom, and Clarke was even further demonized by his peers. He soon found himself without support for his research on the curing of livestock and farm workers from various biological and chemical maladies such as Anthrax and Foot & Mouth disease. A pariah, Clarke was forced to leave the country in order to find new supporters. In 1964, Clarke travelled to Moscow to meet a party representative for a new top secret Soviet initiative known as PROJECT NOVA. That representative was General Dragovich. but along with these connections of clarck being the theift came doubt (below is the doubt of the community and the solution to these problems provided by anti earth) "Clarke is dead" Zombification. The game is full of it "Thief is in the wrong time" Time travel. Also present in the game "If he time traveled, why is he older?" Because your age doesn't reset when you travel back in time. He could have time travelled way BEFORE the time of FIVE, and thus grown older through time until reaching the time of FIVE. Alternatively, he could have grown old after being revived, than time traveled. "There is no bullet hole on the Thief" The bullet hit him where there IS HAIR covering it on the Thief. The Thief's hair covers his wound. "The Thief is not wearing CLarkes clothes. He's in a lab coat" Clarke was a scientist. I am sure he once wore a lab coat. "Clarke was shot in the brain. Zombies need brains" An entirely unsupported claim. No where in Nazi Zombies does it say Zombies need a brain. They are UNDEAD. Their brains have long rotted away. why is the Thief is in the wrong time? Zombies are dumb.how can the theif take guns if he is a brainless zombie? but i also have my personal dounbt witch has not been proven false yet(below) the only teleporter we know of that can time travlle is the one created in der riese notice when a zombie gose near one being activated it is killed? a zombie can not travle throuhg a teleporter capable of time travle (note that the ones in five cant time travle) there is no way for zombie to time travle so that brings back up a old qustion why is the Thief is in the wrong time? update 1:(cridit to chris mathers for the following ideas) The Pentagon Thief had a thing for going around and stealing weapons. Doctor Clarke had a thing for hoarding whole caches of weapons. Really he only needed half of one of his caches and could collect more off the bodies, but he just kept on collecting weapons. And also think about it - Clarke's whole story was one of revenge through indirect means. -First he gets treated like shit for his Communist ideals so he decides to work for the Soviets by stabilizing Steiner's gas weapon for them. -Then the Soviets try to kill him so he wires his lab to explode and kill them remotely. -Then a pair of CIA agents torture him and get him killed in the extraction attempt. So, pissed off at both the Communists and Capitalists, he comes back to life somehow, goes back in time, and literally steals their leaders' weapons, leaving them at the mercy of a horde of zombies. Okay, that last one was me saying what I THINK happened. And I know I'm just guessing here. But if that is what happened, let me try to get inside Clarke's head a moment here, figure out his thought processes, his endgame. Okay, so, whatever happens to President Kennedy, if Castro were to get killed on US soil, the Communists would more than likely take it as an act of war. Maybe Clarke WANTS World War Three to happen. Think about it - who, more than him, would want to see a full-scale nuclear war with neither side having an unfair advantage? Who else has good enough reason to hate the whole world? now aswell as chris's info i will now add some of my own (also found in antis forum but posted by me) Facial features On this picture I would be 90% sure the thefts eyes are blue but if I could get a better picture so I could be 100% sure it would help put this to rest and I would be very grateful. The thefts eyes seem to be blue but clarks eyes are brown. There is little to no sound reason he could have changed his eye coulor as a zombie. Freckles On the thieves face there are freckles that are missing from clarks although you can develop freckles as you get older I doubt you can as a zombie but as you said 3arc aren't Nazi super sinentisets so they can't be sure so why put them in if they can't be sure it's posable? Story/logic Also The 935 on his bag Clark was a part of the ascension group but how could he be part of 935 as well he spent his life working on nova6 and I doubt he had time to work for 935, ascension and The illuminate I say the illuminate because he has illuminate triangle on his lad coat and illuminate writing on his bags strap. i will be updating as people post more proof, doubt and "believe" i also have a poll to see what the comunity think of this theroy and am leaving it open so people can change there mind as more ideas are brought up

ok i will be happy to here this and would like a new thread as this one is a bit overrun and if i come across ignorant im sorry but i am just trying to find the real Answer witch could be that Clark is the theift but before i believe that i want to tie up the lose ends witch there is a lot of

well this post took a complete u-turn i am sorry for bringing up old info but would be glad to help with any theroys with dms gt:nayrcraig

no... they are identical there is no change in the order or content of the recordings no matter order you activate them sorry

ok if this is the case you will be getting brains

sorry i typed that wrong there is two boxes and 3 reels read over my post again and see if you get it now

i thought the stumbled cause they're drunk, cause we're in Russia

:facepalm: there are 5 radios three reels and two "recording boxes" no matter what order you activate them they say the radios in the same order if you shoot the two boxes and then put in the film reels the 3rd ends with knocking and " who is it?" hoped that helped clear things up

I gurantee that if we immediately get on the landers when we get the death machines something will happen. I bet when samantha screams and the electricity goes out its gonna mess up the path of the lander and take us to the 5th pad. @burgerthe fries you do not have to imedeatly get on the landers as you can call them and some one can get on @2dads1giraffe i dont mean you can pay 250 to use them but when i got the death machine for just 30 seconds as a pick up you can use the computer things to call the lunarlanders to the site you are at

i know the blood on the keyboards has been noticed and i was just hilighting an area that it was particularly clear also i dint think the monkey on the key had been noticed but i guess the lunar lander being called in would be found while shearching for a 7th step but i heard most people belived that the "x" button couldnt be used at all with the death machine

i was messing about on solo earlier and i noted two things about the computer thing that call in the lunar landers 1st the is a key at the right of the bottom bit with a monkeys face on it kinda looks like monkey bomb face 2nd i noticed that not only can you rebuild windows, buy doors ect. with the death machine you can also call in lunar landers while holding the death machine and 3rd i remember a while back someone pointed out there was blood on the key pad on the computer and some blood stains where fresher than others revealing the order the buttons where pressed in i noticed it is easiest to noticed the difference on the blood stains at the lander near the sickle

not 100% sure but thats what i heard now that i look over it it could be wrong lol