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More random thoughts. Clue 2 was URANIUM and PLUTONIUM. Specifically elements. Clue 3: 5+5=10. 10th element= Neon MOTEL VACANCY There has to be something here! linear, not algorythmic!!!

I really think the 5+5=10 relates back to the first number in the first clue somehow, which is 10. All these things are supposed to work together, and I think we have to not over complicate them, so lets brainstorm on that. 5th letter of the alphabet is E, 5+5, E+E, EE frEEdom. Another line of thought, 5+5=10. There is a dime on the freedom7 page... Liberty = freedom? edit: I think this is bunk now, see below!

Not really hearing anything distinctive there at all myself.

LINEAR NOT ALGORITHMIC, IMO, means that all three clues intersect to one answer, not that they step through to the solution.

Back to 5+5 and FREEDOM. Note that it is not just 5+5=10 and FREEDOM=7, but 5+5=10 is repeated in a third line, and it is done twice. Might that be significant? Why do it twice? Sputnik only appeared once in Transmission 2.

Good Idea: So what do we know? We know the first phrase is a quote from P2 of the Kryptos at the CIA. P2 was solved using a quagmire III, dual key cipher. http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-keyed.php We were give a MOD key, like usual, that was four tones, "apparently" in morse code for the letter Q. followed by 19 numbers, no higher than 26, LIKELY corresponding to letters in the alphabet. What we don't know, is the significance of the four tones we think is "Q". We also don't have confirmation on our alpha and passkeys for the Kryptos cipher. We don't know if the 19 numbers correspond exactly to the alphabet, or if we have to shift them. We do know that in the P1 Kryptos at the CIA the word illusion was deliberately misspelled with a letter Q substituting for an L, also the word "undergruund" in P2. However none of those words were in the portion of the panel given to us in the clue, and our clue was from P2 not P1. We also know that P2 was initially solved incorrectly, and Sanford had missed an X near the end. Part II: Reference to Marie Currie: Solved MOD 1 0 0, followed by tones at various frequencies that divided by 100 gave us numbers directly and clearly indicating URANIUM and PLUTONIUM. What we don't know is the significance of the words. My logic dictates these would be the alpha and passkeys for the above Kryptos puzzle, but maybe not. Part III: Reference to Hertz: MOD CANT YOU SEE THE WHOLE SPECTRUM. Solved, temporal analysis showed 5+5=10, FREEDOM=7. IMO, considering a similar clue was in the last message, totally missed about Sputnik, there is not much more here. Again we don't know the significance of this. 5+5 may mean May 5th, 2010. It may mean we are looking for 2 5 letter words. It may mean Alan Shepard's May 5th Freedom7 launch from 1961. This IMO is most likely considering freedom=7. Freedom7.com, single page showing a scrapbook and a pic of the freedom7 on the launch pad, with a pic of a motel sign, an upside down roadmap of Northern California, mostly hidden behind the book. Page last updated April 3, 2010, but domain registered since 1997. KENNETH, WHAT'S THE FREQUENCY. Reference to the Dan Rather incident. this clue, and LINEAR NOT ALGORYTHMIC, were not preceded by the usual musical tones or an MOD. I do not believe they are separate clues, but keys to the above 3. Kenneth hints at the Currie clue, to determine the frequency of the notes (which was done) LINEAR, not sure, does it point to clue 1 or 3?

Someone posted about the "opened" thing, but I haven't been able to find the original cracker's post, how it was done (other than saying brute forced) So I wouldn't put much faith or stock in that yet. I could easily post that I brute forced it to say "ASSUME", and we all know what assume really means.... makes an *** out of U and ME. I don't think one can easily brute force a Quagmire III, it took code breakers at the CIA 9 years to crack the first 3 panels of Kryptos.

It was "M O D, can't you see the whole spectrum?" followed by the white noise containing the 5+5=10 and FREEDOM7. the phrase was the key to use the spectral analyzer on the message. So IMO that one is solved. Finding where it fits in the hidden spectral messages though... not so much.

The difficulty (or not) of getting URANIUM and PLUTONIUM had me thinking those must be the key, the MOD--.- though, I believe has us stumped on getting the right letters into the cipher.

AFAIK, MOD 1 0 0 is already solved with the frequency tones. Frequency of the tones/100 = numbers that equaled the electron shell of uranium and plutonium. I agree this is the key we are missing. Food for thought on this: When kryptos p2 was solved, it was actually solved incorrectly. Sanford had missed a character near the end. It was initially thought to be ID IN ROWS, but when corrected said X LAYER TWO. The fact the first translation meant anything in English was pure coincidence and beyond all odds. perhaps Q is a missing letter in the code, and needs to be inserted to make it work.

Another random thought I just had: 5 + 5=10 The first number in the first part of the kryptos code is 10. What if the first letter isn't J, but E E? edit: Or, Freedom as a key isn't FREEDOM, but FRJDOM.

Yep, we know that, it's from the message, and the clue to go to the kryptos cipher in the first place. The k2 it's quoting used KRYPTOS as the alpha key, I was hoping they'd also use it so we'd only need the passkey, but somehow I doubt they'd take it that easy on us. ;)

http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-keyed.php The numbers from the message 10 21 26 1 26 19 * 25 16 22 2 20 1 21 23 16 26 22 19 3 Assigned each as a letter of the alphabet juzazs ypvbtauwpzvsc decrypt

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Yeah Carbon I've been stuck on that generator for a few hours now. I believe it to me likely the Currie clue and Hertz clues both supply one of the words to the cipher. I've tried a million and one combinations of things so far. One big piece missing is the four tones after the first MOD. We don't know yet what that is, and they don't all sound equal in length : long long short long. --.-

Me too! (and I am a major COD franchise fan)

Carbonfibuh, do you think it might mean any thing with 'FREEDOM = 7' being rather dyslexic in your image? FR are inverted, as is the M and 7. edit, amando posted a similar image on page 1, and it wasn't inverted.... Freedom 7 was Alan Shepard's bird, John Glenn flew in Friendship 7, first American in orbit, Friendship has 10 letters.

I've been pounding numerous things into the passkey and alpha keys there, with no luck so far. Still thinking out loud, 5+5=10, two five letter words, each one the alpha one the passkey?

freedom=7 5+5=10 website, maybe freedom is 7 letters, are we looking for something 10 letters for the passkey for the kryptos? It all has to lead back to the kryptos IMO.

Hi Guys, first post! Shizzire, I agree, Currie is solved, Hertz is solved. Freedom7 was registered in 1997, but was updated April 3, 2010. No coincidence there. The text at freedom7.com is odd, and might contain a clue of some kind. A short 15 minute HOPE, and gave me a middle name....... Shepard's middle name was Bartlett. I don't think the map is important at this point. As to the cipher: http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/vigenere-keyed.php Quagmire III cipher tool. The phrase from the message above is from Panel 2 of the KRYPTOS Alphabet Key from panel 2, was KRYPTOS, passkey was ABSCISSA. I think what we need to find is the passkey here. I've tried numerous combinations of things, CURRIE, HERTZ, PLUTONIUM, URANIUM, KENNEDY, SHEPARD, KENNETH. I tried the elements as alpha and passkeys. Note also MOD and the 4 tones, they might also be in morse, long long short long. They aren't the same length.