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I shed a tear, as you took the words I've been wanting to say, but couldn't find them.

How's it cheap? Really now, how? I mean, we can miss, and can be an easy kill. Whereas, Noob Tubers can stay in one spot and get a 25 kill streak, and Commando Fags can run around the whole game knifing. We actually have to go out there and try and try and try. Its cheap because IMO its easy maybe I just got lucky the few times I did it, and the people on the other team were bad. And you're right I would much rather take on a team of quick scopers than noob-tubers, but the topics was quickscopes so that's what I wrote about. I wasn't trying to offend anybody I was just giving my opinion. Believe me mate, you didn't offend me or anybody else. I'm just a cranky person.

How's it cheap? Really now, how? I mean, we can miss, and can be an easy kill. Whereas, Noob Tubers can stay in one spot and get a 25 kill streak, and Commando Fags can run around the whole game knifing. We actually have to go out there and try and try and try.

Now, with that in mind, how many of you actually did Quickscope in Modern Warfare 2? I did, but only when I got bored. I usually snipe the way the sniper is meant to be used. But it's gotten to the point where if you even look through your scope for 0.5 seconds you're hardscoping. Why did people like zzirGrizz and the OpTic clan have to ruin these games? im sorry i ruined the game experience for u....i only did what everyone wanted me to do which is make vids for people to enjoy....and we will always be quickscoping, just because there wont be Slight of Hands PRO doesnt mean there wont be any quickscoping....people have been quickscoping since cod 2 and that wont change.............. I honestly don't think you're the real Predator. I'm sorry for saying that if you are, but there are a TON of imitators out there, as you know and I hope you can understand mate. @Shoreyo : I put the Corriolis Effect there just cause, does it really matter? Seeing as how the rest of what I've put really can determine a shot almost always. I also don't see Jamming being put to use in MP, it may work for other games, but I don't see it happening in such a fast-paced game.

Call of Duty has never been about realism, as it's an arcade shooter. But even CoD needs some realism. And Quickscoping in MW2 is awful because of the auto-aim and bullet detection. Most of the time when you quickscope, the sights get targeted on the player who is in the general direction that you are aiming. And if you get a game winning kill by quckscoping, half the tiem the bullet doesn't actually touch the guy, it goes within a metre of him and he dies. That is why I dislike quickscopers. Especially when they claim that it is harder than "hardscoping". I actually agree 100% with you. No sarcasm involved, I'm going to turn off my Auto-Aim next time I play MW2. I need to know, do you guys hate Quickscoping all around, just the little brats who yell at you when you Hardscope, hit detection, what? Cause, it doesn't seem like it's so much the Quickscoping, just what has made quickscoping (Hit Detection, Auto Aim, etc.)

Ok, if you guys really want Realistic in a game, then lets say that the next CoD game after Black Ops had this : 1 Life - You could only die once, and then you could never play it again. Real Gore - A .50 Cal hits you in your leg, it's not going to be there the next second. Snipers - Corriolis Effect, Wind Speed, Gravity, Spotting, Distance, etc. Real Reloading - When you reload in Mw2, CoD4, etc. you take replace your clip that you have, but you keep the ammo that was still in the clip. Like, if I had a clip of 12/30 and reloaded with 100 Spare Rounds, my Spare Rounds would go down to 18. This would take away all of the ammo you still have in a clip. I honestly can't think of anything else right now, so if anyone would want to add on, please go ahead. Now, taking from that, isn't this realistic? Is THAT what you guys want? Games aren't supposed to be realistic, they're supposed to be fun. Quickscoping to me, is fun. That's why I do it, like I've stated many times before. @Wince : zzirGrizz I believe is the one who started the whole, "Quickscoping" idea. OpTic is a clan who Quickscopes in Clan Battles. @Shoreyo : "strange as normally the more experianced one would do the sniping..." Let me ask you this, would you really want to sit back and just target people? Not being able to kill any? Not being able to sit right under a tree and snipe some dude in the face and seeing the blood splatter out the back of his skull!?!? I know that I'd, HATE that. Also, you say that Treyarch makes guns more realistic, yet I haven't seen a Jamming gun, a backfire, etc. @BBS: So, I'm not the only one who thought that the snipers in W@W weren't registering?! THERE MUST BE A LORD!

it really pisses me off when people like you, say that Optic and Grizz and others have RUINED an ASPECT of a game, not the game entirely. People like me? You mean people who want to play the game the way it's meant to be played and not be overburdened by a full team of quickscopers who think they're the next OpTic Predator? Alright, so say, people like me, want to One Man Army grenade launch. Not saying I do, just an example. So, you join a match and you get grenade launched by me. You're going to bitch and complain after the match aren't you? Hypocrisy is a huge part of gaming today. People enjoy grenade launchers, it's funny to watch that character fly through the air. Others despise it and hate that people use these features, then those people use it themselves. However, I don't try to be like OpTic or Grizz, I just do my own thing. I'll quickscope from time to time, but it's not a chronic thing for me. For them, it is. As for your point of "ruining an aspect of the game" they have done more than that. They've showed a flaw from the developers that will not be patched because it's so popular. Now you can't even join a match without encountering a quickscoper. This is in a sense "ruining the game" as I said above. However, you're right, Quickscoping is entertaining and you feel good after getting that shot, but how do you think your victim feels? Alright, I'll admit it, I went a bit out of line when I meant you and I apologize. As to your OMA + Noob Tube Example, yes I will bitch and complain, as the match is going on, and after the match because I know it's going to happen again. Also, how is the game meant to be played? By a sniper actually being a sniper and laying or sitting in one spot for God knows how long to finally get one kill? That's not fun, that's just boring. I agree with hypocrisy being a huge part of gaming today, because when something pisses you off, it's like a plague. Say I was MLC-ing, and it pissed you off, you'd probably do it the next round or RPG me or something, to try and get back at me. I don't try to be like OpTic or Grizz either, I think 360's and all that are overrated. I just quickscope, cause I think it's cool, fun and entertaining. Are quickscopers the only ones who've ruined a game like MW2? I would say not, I mean, we have MLC, OMA + Noobtubers, RPG-ers, and the list goes on and on! So quickscoping is popular, so what? I've run into a TON of Quickscopers who ultimately suck, and have only found a majority who are actually good and can hold their own. How do I think my victim feels? It depends. If the guy is actually good, and he's pulling off God-Like shots left and right, I'll watch my killcams and go, "Holy damn that guys good!" or, "Fuuuu- I wish I could do that!" and try and mimic or see what he did to get better. Like I said before, quickscopers most of the time ultimately suck, and are easy to kill and get points off of, you have to admit that you like ranking up and stuff, right? Ending thoughts : If this turns into a flame war, I'll call it quits. But for now, it's just my two cents and I hope I haven't started a flame war or anything.

Ruin? I quickscope, and honestly, I think it's fun. It provides even more longevity for any CoD game for me, and it's just hella fun. Infact, for me, Grizz and Optic have opened up a new way of playing for me. Even if SoH Pro doesn't work with Snipers, I'm going to quickscope anyway. Also, remember, this is a GAME not real fucking life! I'm sorry for the language, but it really pisses me off when people like you, say that Optic and Grizz and others have RUINED an ASPECT of a game, not the game entirely. Back to my point of it being a game where you're supposed to have fun and take your mind off real life (Keep this in mind, this is IMPORTANT.) quickscoping again, is fun and I love it when I get an amazing shot on someone. Sorry for the rant, but it's my two cents and I feel it needed to be said.

I believe it was either JD or David who stated that Bots don't have the AI power to capture flags, objectives, etc., so it'll be only FFA, TDM, and something else..

When you reload two guns at once, you reload one first, using the other hand to help, and vice versa.

---Getting Info... --CLASS SETUP --HAVOC BRINGER: ...... ...... ...... PRIMARY WEAPON : -Weapon Type : Sub-Machine Gun (SMG) --Weapon : AKs-74u ATTACHMENTS (PRIMARY WEAPON) : -Upper --Reflex Sight ---Diamond Outline ----RED SECONDARY WEAPON : -Weapon Type : Pistol --Weapon : M1911 ATTACHMENT(S) (SECONDARY WEAPON) (IF ANY) : -Barrel --Silencer PERKS : -Tier 1 --Scavenger -Tier 2 --Sleight of Hand -Tier 3 --Marathon KILLSTREAKS : - Spy Plane (3) -- Napalm Strike (5) --- Valkyrie Rockets (7) PERSONAL (NOTES) : Above is EVERYTHING I will unlock first. Depending on what level the AKs-74u is unlocked at, I'll be using whatever guns they give you at start until I have enough cP to buy my Havoc Bringer Class. ---END.

You can also do, "Translate into English." for it to work.

That is really gay. >_>

Where can that be viewed? And does anyone know I treyarch is gonna put reveal footage up on their YouTube channel or something along those lines? My crappy of can't really handle live feeds. Carbon said he'll be updating the homepage so keep checking there.

Now knowing that the September 1st is just a stupid red carpet reveal, I'm dissappointed. Only allowing certain members of the community to play a game as hyped as this is a total let down, and I would expect more from trey. Unless they announce a Beta, I'm not as hyped as I would be. Will be watching the Ustream from Carbon though.

The Beta.

Hey mate, your thread's not up.

zBoy, don't triple post, just edit your first one and leave it at that.

OMG! i just realized we put the exact same multiplayer image! great minds think alike! jk...heres my menu so u can see it Your pics not working mate.

MK Ultra has been found already, I think. Nice find either way, and it could even lead to something bigger. :D

Tits or gtfo. owai-

Hey mate, just my 2Cents on your "Poll." I don't think it's a good idea, since people can vote for themselves and I don't think that's real fair, since that ONE vote can win. Don't add a poll, just make everyone post their vote, which CANNOT be themselves. Not much to add, I just think it'll be much more fair.

Heres mine. PS: The glow around the Co-Op mode is the "Selection" notifier.

Hey Mikeh, what dimensions did you use? I like the size, hope you don't mind me wanting to use it. PS: Everyone should post the dimensions they used (Height//Width) just incase.

Yar.