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Great ideas, unfortunately ive freeze framed and that figure that gets knocked over is actually the moon astronaut zombie, that was why i can up with the idea of Samantha holding tank Dempsey, as i thought it was him who was knocked over originally

FINALLY!!!!!! Someone who actually looking at all the facts,ive said it since the origin of all these theory's and il say it again. the imagination / god complex / simple game theories are NOT consistant enough Treyarch did leave links in to the other maps, that IS consistant!!! If they left out of the ciphers say... Group 935, the ALLIES and the only tinier details then i could readily except those theories. The fact is they DID included them, What in Argatha would be the point including those key points IF it was just a game? Why included them at all? Ive long suspected family ties between Maxis, Richtofen and Samantha thanks to clues in all previous maps This is not to say that Origins is Samantha telling the STORY of origins (and origins only) through the medium of a game between her and her "uncle" Eddie. That much i do believe to be real (because she mentions her dad has a plan), at least in the sense Her father Maxis found Element 115 then, the rest is dramatised for our benefit

I never really played mob of the dead (just didnt like it) i always though he said Nikola (tesla) wish i did play it more than a few times now lol My only thing i can really say is things are carried through the aether, we "teleport" through the aether, is it possible that the Aether tunnels intersect? Something linked to the Kassimir effect i posted so so long ago. What about Gersh? He was trapped in Argatha with samantha. Or is it really the Aether, purgatory, the world between worlds that threads the universes and dimensions together? Maybe Gersh was freed and he went to Argatha, the same as Brock in shangri la was trying to do? Richtofen when taking control of the zombies specifically mentions the AETHER, mention of Argartha at all EDIT WELCOME :)

Im going against my own character and im going to help you with your theory and Samantha by giving you something else to add The loading screens that form a book, children's comic book? Self made? is it where she gets her ideas for her "game"? Your thoughts on the matter?

Hit the glass, it does a plus .25% damage per bullet apparently someone told me who is looking at the code On a side note, why is there 2 different variations of the panzer soldat? Not really looked into yet it but find it really strange to have 2 different models

The red one is the hardest to find, its the one that changes where it is the most frequent, i think it has more places to spawn Than the rest, but it is there trust me, i have found it next to church generator onop of the Trench, and in the ice tunnel, not its usual places

Ok ok ok im going to just throw this out there with Mob of the poop a d its a crazy idea but quite plausible in the grand scheme of weirdness. For the start i want to explain my theory on mob of the Dead. All 4 inmates are waiting to be killed by Electric chair (hence the electric chairs in the game right?) Well what if the electric used to kill the inmates on the Real electric chair was powered by element 115? and instead of bringing something through to "our world" it sent them through to purgatory, i mirror image of the real world with slight differences.being powered somehow by element 115 means they did die but their souls remained This could explain why you are in a loop, this would explain why you can never escape. Given all the new info from origins im starting to look at all previous maps differently. Anyway back to the zombie blood, as the inmates are technically dead stuck in Purgatory (or trapped in the Aether) the blood vials could be sent through time as a way to help other people, as a sign of some kind. Ive got more i could add to this but for now as an idea, i though I'd post it

Hmmm possibly, however that may not be the case In the intro the Soldier Templars have blue/purple ish eyes as we know, however in game UNLESS they are getting hit their eyes are actually the blue eyes we know from when Richtofen is in charge of them. The kicker here though is the Power Templars HAVE the purple ish eyes mentioned above http://instagram.com/p/duR-RNuP9G/ If both types of Templar zombies had th same colour eyes then I wouldn't think much of it. Btw thats my Facepalm zombie, he should be the officail Facepalm mascot for all zombie games

I must say, although i strongly disagree with the current consensus that Zombies has all be a game/ manipulation/ imagination from Samantha and Eddie, it is a good theory, i want to say that upfront as this is not about who's theory is correct or not. Rather a question about the above theories instead as i would like to hear what people's thoughts are on the matter. Ok for a start the imagination theory as i like to call it that everyone seems as the most likely theory has a loop hole. Say i agree with the whole imagination AND that the end is actually fact and not based of theories like mine and it IS Samantha's turn (due to W@W characters being used) AND the fact Samamntha says it will be HIS turn tomorrow..... Then explain to me why the Templar knights eyes at blue yet the normal zombies eyes are not? This contradicts Eddie saying the zombies eyes should be blue AFTER origins is finished. As i said the play theory is believable but some things are niggling in the back of my head. This is just one such example

Eddy and Eddie are written on both Verruckt and Der Riese, couple this with quotes throught the following maps staring that Richtofen and Samantha were close (so close he made her toys and dolls, like the TEDDY and the Monkey Bomb that originally wasn't a bomb) also the huge bomb shell that possible family relation between Samantha and Richtofen helps this for the simple fact that Maxis via a radio transmission Brought Edward into group 935 to work along side him (Despite being a tad young) this could be the whole reason for Samantha getting a dog as Richtofen was too busy working with Maxis now to spend all his time with her.

http://instagram.com/p/dmIlGLOP5x/ I can No Clip and have done around the 4th Norse giant, not much of note but interestingly both Feet are lit up (Teleporter Lit up) EDIT: here is the Heads under the Map http://instagram.com/p/djkaYJuP_b/ Only 3 heads have been found underneath

I could believe in MMX theory and everyone else's about how its a game, in fact if it was true it wouldn't be a new idea, Someone said in BlackOps one on a rival zombies site that This could all be in Samantha's head years ago. However the quote above and a few others contradict everything these kind of theory's stand for, For instance Samantha didnt erase anything, the characters were left on Moon, bodies switch and their fate not yet known. Origins IS a Beginning, it says so countless times in references and directly at us the player. Otherwise why call it origins, might aswell call it grand finale, screw you community or HaHaHaHa we rolled you good Secondly people bringing up children's imagination etc that is why there is Eddie and Sam written. However What father in his right mind would let a BOY friend stay over? I dont want to hear its war time because i stated they are WW2 sirens in the first place, But even so, Richtofen and Samantha being related is far more possible than just a random child who takes on the persona of Richtofen. TBH im done, im making real headway with the secret code and what it shows so far backs up my theory 100%, waffles is also working on the code too so hopefully all will be revealed soon Although i dont people will accept that either way even when the truth is right in front of you

Im providing an extremely valid alternate theory to yours that is backed by well over 10 maps worth of information that some of it you claim to know nothing about, things that have always been there and been giving us clues all along, clues that have ALWAYS been consistant. I have read over everyones theory so far and they are all extremely plausible and have said so, so dont dismiss mine when ive got ALL ingame evidence to back it up, Im not just going off Origins Have you missed every map before Tranzit/Green run? Evil doesn't come into it, He is being a father and protecting his daughter and would do anything including sacrificing his own life for her, as a father i can fully understand that. He apologises to Samantha for not knowing what was going on and he DOES have a bloody reason because RICHTOFEN locked Maxis and Samantha in a teleporter with a hellhound and left them to die, I'd say that is cause for revenge wouldn't it Yes there are souls, however I like to remind you of the radio transcript of Richtofen experimenting on Takeo, Nikolai and Tank, instead if turning into zombies after coming into contact with Element 115, they had something different happen to them and as a result lost their memories. So who else has come into contact with element 115 Maxis - not dead but as an electric current Richtofen - not dead - controls Argatha now Samantha - Not dead, switched places with Richtofen Tank - Didn't Turn into a zombie like everyone else Nikolai - as above Takeo - as above (but slowly remembering) Gersh - worked with element 115 to create a multi dimensional teleporting device (The Gersh device) Yuri - working with Gersh and Element 115 Yuri soon starts to hear a demonic voice telling him what to do Brock and Gary- while hunting for Mewtwo find themselves in the new region of Shangri la, and get caught in a everlasting time loop. THAT time loop isn't infinite and can be changed As the Easter egg steps get further on Samuel J. Stuhlinger - after his cannalism, he are zombies which are empowered by element 115, its how they exists, proved throughout countless maps I've miss some people but meh, my point is ALL the people who come into direct contact with Element 115 have "Side effects" Maxis, Samantha and Richtofen also have been inside the MPD pyramid and is why they can still be alive after death so to speak Traditional. Theres something that IS consistent, maxis talking through a radio.... Intercoms would only be TRUE if maxis is the one experimenting on Samantha and shes in some sort of mental institute I have kept completely on thread and and are putting my views up there Because you don't seem to know half of what i have mentioned in previous map indicates you ARE just taking origins on face value, go back through the other maps or better yet i will compile the items i have stated in detail for you, if you still think my theory doesn't have merit than great, even better if you can disprove it because we would be closer than ever to finding the real Truth. As i said before everything I ever post is backed up by real facts taken from i game, actual evidence, my theories come from those facts.

Yes mw3 did sell more, but do you think for a second that may only because there is no zombies on MW games? And no i dont count infestation. Not to mention MW3 had the most terrible story ever so all that was left IS multiplayer, but im going off the point I personally found MOONs easter far less annoying than Buried, And The Very first Easter egg EVER was Shooting something so its not about simplicity, its the fact that its over the top now (yes i know the story is morphed taking real world events etc etc) Secondly Zombies was So popular that Treayrch incorporated Parts of the campaign to tie in with the zombie story. It still is so popular that it still gets its own seperate trailer just for zombies, pretty big waste of money for something that doesn't make them much money in return People Dismiss the fact that a new generation started playing zombies from only BLOPS 1/BLOPS 2 and this is where there is a divide between people's ideas and theories in Zombies. But again we are getting off subject, when you see people and say they are contradicting themselves, i see them posting theories, sure they may change their mind but that is what makes them theories I myself have posted over 7 different theories in the few days Origins has been out, its not that im contradicting myself, i just access new information and bring out a new theory each time

PTG also falsified information claiming it to be from Treyarch, most of their "sources" came from taking the information from other people's ideas on the official cod forums.

Well no, he is basically saying the Cinematic is real, everything else well isn't. I e come up with several other scenarios that are just as plausible but because of the ending, that is what it is being focused on. I would like to remind members here back when Der Riese Trailer was different to the actual in game Der Riese, people spent months trying to UNLOCK Der Riese when in actual fact Treyarch heavily edited Der Riese before launch, taking away more playable areas than we actually go to play in. Its easy to get swept away i. The moment and i do personally like MMx theory, but before we jump on the band wagon we need to make sure there is nothing we are missing, quotes, other radios, the Peices of code that havent even been decoded yet, hidden around the map in origins. All these things and more could change everything we think now. so dont take it as people are bashing him, or people are acting bipolar, he has a theory, yes its good, but its not in key with Treyarchs usual mix of clues. So although MMx may well be right, everyone has a right to. Theory of their own and YOU shouldn't dismiss anyone else just because you believe his is right.

Yes they need to quit because they've cleaned up this story and given it a legitimate end, that could lead to another whole new story of codzombies. Please treyarch quit trying to give us an ending that rationalizes the current story and giving us more zombies. You do realise that Zombies is Treyarchs biggest money maker right? It was so popular that Black Ops 1 re released w@w maps. w@W and Black Ops two saw Treyarchs DLC outselling everything else on the marketplace, and even outselling most other games. You wouldn't give up something that is your saving grace would you. You say the story needs to end? There is still so many unanswered questions that may or may not ever be answered, thats not to say i wont be happy if they stopped zombies. I hate the new characters and i hate the over the top Easter eggs when it should be about figuring out the story. However if they were to Leave it at buried it would be a mistake. I still believe Moon would have been the perfect ending The original 4 and Samantha stuck in Richtofens body on the Moon with no way to get back maxis destroyed the earth in revenge Richtofen in control of absolutely nothing as The earth is destroyed. You telling me Buried ending is better than that? Way to over complicate a supposed ending Might aswell have gone back to Der Riese "This is where it all began, Is this where it all Ends?"

Actually if you want to say about the MPD Vril route with Maxis then, Although the Theory is a good one, its flawed in a sense that Maxis was killed infront of it talking to Samantha correct? Well also know from the Radios that any living souls when killed near it are converted to ENERGY (see where im going with this?) into Element 115 which in turns fully restores power to the pyramid and gives full control over to Samantha It can also be debated with my own theory that Maxis wasnt murdered, but rather killed himself to give full control over to Samantha to exact his revenge (Hence why Goph is shouting out "NO!" AFTER the gunshot and not before Maxis in turn then becomes pure electrical Energy and a me to traverse electrical currents, Thus my point about only hearing maxis from the machines EDIT: having completed Origins now, there is something i noticed in the End sequence Maxis is talking through a Radio, or intercom? (maybe because he is in the basement, who knows) But again, its STILL communicating through electrical devices, Everything is there, linking it all, under Neath the cinematics it have all info we need

In the words of Samantha during the Fly Trap achievement.... I WANT TO PLAY A GAME Lets play hide and seek.... Seems relevant to me

That's overlooking the brain found in Origins. It's Maxis's brain. A brain cannot speak though, it needs a medium, that medium is the electrical current. On a side note, did anyone else notice the brain jar is the same colour as the brain jars in Der Riese that play beauty of annihilation Easter egg song....funny how things are linking up

I will dig out my research files on the Aether projector and everything with it just as a reference Richtofen did indeed say to maxis, as i said would be believe Richtofen? Eddy is a liar, something in Verruckt and Der Reise. Der Riese coincidentally is where we 1st learn that Richtofen and Edward/Eddy are one and the same. If anyone remembers? As for Maxis he does only talk to you through electronically devices from moon onward (where he directly interacts with the player) Surely i cant be the only one who notices how he talks through microphones, tannoys and other electrical devices? Hell when you make the maxis drone he is speaking directly from that, an electrical drone. Powered by element 115, Maxis soul got trapped in the Aether when he died, however as he had no body, his soul was infused with element 115, thus he was able to travel.

While you have proved over the day to make a good argument for your case about this is still a real event taking place and not all make believe but some sort of alternate deal has gotten increasingly more convincing, I'm still not convinced... Here's why: you claim there's not enough paraphernalia in the room that involves WAW references correct? If so then I would argue that because there are references of BO1 maps in the room then how did these get here exactly? These maps revolving stories couldn't exist without the WAW precursors, so in essence, them existing in this room also means WAW is included? Maybe treyarch just didn't want to include any models for these things possibly. So maybe you would argue that everything past WAW maps were just a kids game and can't be considered as real events such as your WAW occurrences? I could see this, basically Sam and Eddie were in the WW2 era discussing how the story would continue and all of the BO maps would be considered "games" , ignoring all of the future information such as celebrities that were born in the 70s and that the dolls were made by Dr Maxis and given to Sam for her to reenact past events and make new events with Eddie (BO1 maps). I don't know though, I am actually questioning this entire post right now lol please forgive and delusions as I and currently on 8mgs of Hydromorphone. One thing however that is pretty clear for me is that there is LESS inconsistencies with the "It was all just a game, whether to cope with their life or zombie apocalypse, or just simply wildly imaginative children" than the other theories I've come across, but that's just me lol. As i said before i do get where you are coming from all to well and i do consider your theory completely valid, i just dont believe your theory is the accurate one for (and im going to be completely honest here) reason and that simply is.... Its too easy It fits too well, it fits so well it could be the truth from the get go, its this reason alone i believe Treyarch have put the Ending as a distraction to the us over because from Verruckt onwards, absolutely nothing has ever been that simple in the Zombies story arc, theres things still we don't fully understand in previous maps, that is how cryptic Treyarch makes the game. If it wasn't for how Treyarch has always been, and how Buried left the story hanging before the Rift was fully mended i too would quite happily believe your theory without a second thought. But as always there will always be something that doesn't fit right and keeps us guessing The ending puts it right out there, telling us, this goes against everything Treyarch has ever done.

The zombies aren't really zombies, Maxis isn't really Samantha's father, infact the end sequence isn't really happening by that logic. Treyarch never do anything on a whim. What your saying is essentially nothing is be the truth from W@W till Origins, might aswell not put a story at all? I have posted on another thread about the family connection between Richtofen maxis and Samantha and all the quotes coincide with my theory, infact if it wasnt for the qoutes Treyarch put in i could never have come up with it in the first place

Projection isn't new at all, Maxis in Kino Der Toten built the Aether Projectionist, And using the Difference Engine he is able to not only project and search through the Aether, He is also able to project through different realities Thanks to said Difference engine. Also its speculation, Maxis "thinks" she is still in the Pyramid due to that is where she is when he gets shot (Radio proves this) And up until Richtofen takes over Samathas place in Moo , she was Still trapped in Argatha. Maxis doesn't know that she is in Richtofens body, there is no direct contact between Maxis and Samantha, the only qoute Samantha says is "goodbye daddy, i love you" after maxis launches the nukes. Maxis is trapped inside Element 115 electrical current as is why he can only contact through Electronically devices, he was on one of those nukes to earth, hence why he doesn't know Samantha is now in Richtofens body. Even if Richtofen was to tell maxis, he would t believe him would he?

Pretty much my theory with a few differences, like where Samantha is currently. In origins Samantha is projected through the Aether to contact her father Maxis, however this is long before he has Samantha as you also noted. However here is the difference in what i believe. This is when Samantha Either 1st gets teleported (the maxis, Samantha fluffy being trapped in a teleported by Richtofen) and we know in Moon, Maxis doesn't teleport straight to the Moon so it also is reasonable that Samantha doesn't go Straight to the Moon, rather gets projected back through time (hence still having in innocence but knowing about 115 while being at Der Riese with her Father and Richtofen) The other Posibility is when she gets trapped in the Argatha Pyramid and gains control over the zombies. I say this becuase i believe that in Origins, neither Samantha or Richtofen have any control over the undead army. at the end of Moon we know where Samantha Is, she is on the Moon with the original 4 in Richtofens body Maxis in present day time does not know this and is why he is searching for Samantha, possibly due to the Original 4 travelling through the Aether to Argatha with Samantha as a way to escape From the Moon. Richtofen must know Samantha is still alive because he is in control in Argatha and projecting through the Aether. Buried confirms this. Over all a solid theory though. Unless we can find a distinctive item or clue that suggests otherwise, this wont hold up to the obvious implications of the end cinematic As for the cycle the me a while i have some information that gives you even more weight to that part in your theory