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there's still gore in campaign tho, right?

the least they could have done is shown us a picture of the laser cel(l). and i'm a little po'ed that all these people who preorder later are getting more stuff. i had bo preordered in june or july , although in august i had it upgraded to hardened, but i didn't get the flight suit avatar b/c it wasn't regarded as a new preorder, even tho on the reciept it says 'preorder cancel' and 'hardened preorder' under purchases. :evil: :evil:

^ it may be the classified lmg. we only know of 3 lmg's: hk21, rpk, and m60, which seems kinda low to me, considering how many ar's and smg's there are. btw the stoner was also called xm22(e1) and mk23 mod 0, so that may be its in game name.

I'm not much of a ffa player but that may change. I remember in mw2 I found some boosters in one of the buildings in derail. So I kept going in and killing the one on the other team. Probably saved everyone lmao. I hope there are no dog boosters in black ops.

Well it could be a stoner with the lmg barrel and the rifle magazine, as the stoner's main feature was part changeability. It could still be an lmg, as the BAR and fg42 had small magazine sizes in w@w.

yeah i proposed that a while ago.

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Stoner_63 the pic (which i didn't make) on this page shows the comparison pretty good. the mods on the wiki didn't delete the page, but rather actually added to it, but it's in game name is still unknown.

Special thanks to Carbonfibah for the list. most of these are speculation with the exception of ice, which came from a game image off the wiki. ERDL: came in lowland, highland, and delta varieties. woodland style camo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERDL_pattern Tiger: may be based on tigerstripe patern used by special forces early in the war. woodland style camo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERDL_pattern Berlin: urban camo pattern developed for tanks: based on black, white, and grey color scheme used on WW2 battleships. Olive: lighter green camo, most likely standard military olive drab. Ice: light blue and white. http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/File:V ... 20s151.png Warsaw: most likely based on camo used by warsaw pact nations. i'll get to the rest when my pc feels like cooperating.

you think stoner 63 is funny? initial prototypes were called stoner 69. EDIT: IT'S DEFINITELY AN LMG. PAUSE AT EXACTLY 0:20, another player with the same gun (since it's sharpshooter) walks by, you can clearly see a big bipod on a long barrel. also appears to have some sort of woodland camo. EDIT 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stoner_63.JPG ^ compare this to the vid paused at 20 seconds, notice the 2 tabs with holes (on top of gun, in front of and below acog) then notice the cylindrical piece further down in front of the tabs. also note the tube above the barrel that ends at the vertical piece about halfway down the barrel. BOTH. GUNS. HAVE. THESE. FEATURES. ;)

the galil is pretty much just an ak-47 that fires the nato 5.56 round, the gun in the vid looks nothing like an ak. someone with a good pc: could you magnify the killfeed icons on the lower left so we can at least see the gun's general profile?

I don't think its the Enfield, that's bullpup but the gun in the video appears to have the magazine in front of the trigger. Also the Enfield has a circle thing on its stock behind the sights, I didn't see that. Its not the FAL because that was confirmed to be semi auto. And I didnt see the galil's bipod , although it is small on that gun. The Galil is the only other candidate. But the stoner comes in lmg and rifle forms so that could explain the smaller clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOAAWWjfG_g look at around 0:20 seconds. has this gun been id'd yet? the stupid GamesRadar logo is in the way, preventing a confirmable id, but i'm almost positive it's the stoner 63 (in lmg configuration). look below the scope, it's folded down iron sights look similar to the one's on the stoner 63's wikipedia page. thoughts?

i'm curious about the dragonsbreath rounds for shotguns in multiplayer, and although i'm not really a fan, shotgun silencers? i'm glad they put in the over-and-under double barrel Olympia shotgun, more old school from treyarch. edit: regarding the iron sights, they are probably all the same as SOG installed precision iron sights as the default for any weapon they used. those aren't the FAMAS' real ironsights, in mw2 the famas had those added to it (the famas' real iron sights can be seen folded down behind the precision ones)

interesting concept. what i wanna know is if it's based off of a real prototype. at least there's no infinite ammo.

hmmm those camo names... nevada sahara Berlin Warsaw Siberia Yukon.... those camos have some location specific names..... ERDL's meaning?

in the first vid we finally see footage of the under barrel flamethrower! and in the second, the double barrel shotgun.

i'm pretty sure i saw somewhere that you can paint your guns different colors, in one gameplay video, the guy was using a white famas. so just paint it yellow and 'pretend' it's gold.

STOP SAYING IT'S AN M1 GARAND- IT'S AN M14, IT SAYS SO IN THE LOWER RIGHT CORNER. and STOP SAYING it's the lee enfield: that's a bolt action. it's the Enfield EM-2 prototype or L65 or L85 family.

look closely at 2:14 when it says enfiled, it's not the lee enfield bolt action like some were saying. it's the em-1 or em-2 bullpup assault rifle prototype. Britain's been working on bullpups since the late '40s. sorry to dash some people's bolt action dreams.

part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToRG_z3ib-o he said that chopper gunner was like the one in spec-ops, more ballanced. but shotguns are primaries, and useless. honestly, why couldn't they make shotguns primaries with the damage from mw2. WHY?! most of all, he didn't use his under barrel flamethrower. :evil: :evil: me wanted to see!

i had a similar idea a while back, random wep in care package. great minds think alike, i guess......

in those wager matches, i hope they put more measures in place to prevent camping and other formes of dispicable behavior, because your k/d ratio isn't the only thing on the line now... regarding the 'death machine' minigun, i like that there's an ammo limit, but in real life, the death machine was the name of a SOG m60 that was attached to a backpack ammo drum, with 1000 round capacity! and at least there is no stopping power or juggernaut, at least not on the wiki page lmao!

the facebook page for the Black ops multiplayer reveal event says it's from 8 pm to 11pm in LA. sooooo i'm not sure about the 6 pm listed in the OP. hope 6 is the correct time, less wait!

9 pm standard eastern time, US, for anyone who wants to know. EDIT: 11 pm eastern. misread 8 as a 6 in my haste lol. a little late for some time zones, ya think?

Where can that be viewed? And does anyone know I treyarch is gonna put reveal footage up on their YouTube channel or something along those lines? My crappy of can't really handle live feeds.