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He looks straight, then left, then right, so I think he natural next look would be upwards to analyze the situation. Although he does seem to come out of a different state, so to speak, as if he goes in and out of modes.

One thing I find peculiar is that Takeo's letters aren't making the most sense. In October of 1917, Takeo says he's been made the trusted agent of the Emperor and is aware of being sent to retrieve the Nazi machinery. Then in March of 1918, he says the Emperor has noticed him and must meet about an unknown event of great importance. I don't foresee this important event being anything other than the Nazi's machinery, which he already knows about, however.

He could've arrived at the site- which is in fact a war zone. He may have been tasked with actually fighting in the war in order to get to the actual ruin. They do have a crap ton of trenches there, that's a sign of conflict going on, and it was rare that ground was actually taken by either side in this war because people would just be gunned down. It took months to win battles, allowing Germany to continue it's excavation. Treyarch has been releasing images of the characters fighting Zombies with captions from their letters about war. I believe that they may be writing letters while involved in the Zombie apocalypse.

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Perhaps, it's just that I have trouble thinking that the outbreak stopped progress all through the world. Because then, we'd have to question the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge and things like that, and the intel has described previous breakouts as isolated events, and I feel as though these follow suit. It would make things much less confusing, I admit that, but I.m just not sure of its likelihood. Yeah its hard to think what are the consequences of the out breaks and how far they have spread out and have they been isolated by for example German troops. That can only be theorized at this point. Lets hope Origins gives us answers. It seemed the whole battlefield was overrun it will be interesting to see what consequences it had to France. After all there was zombies under the Eiffel tower in Der Riese picture, we also know Nacht Der Untoten was the second outbreak so now we know first one was in France instead of the other 935 facilities. It very well could have been spread at least trough out the France. It's very possible. We just don't know how many facilities they have so it's hard to say where these outbreaks originated from. Origins should answer quite a few questions.

Perhaps, it's just that I have trouble thinking that the outbreak stopped progress all through the world. Because then, we'd have to question the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge and things like that, and the intel has described previous breakouts as isolated events, and I feel as though these follow suit. It would make things much less confusing, I admit that, but I.m just not sure of its likelihood.

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Likewise, I've got a list of their details. Wife 5 was the reason Stalin banished him, because she was having an affair with a politician and he killed her for it. Stalin fthen feared him and sent him to the front lines. But where did you get that from? It is in the bio Treyarch released during Shi No Numa. This is the old link (http://www.callofduty.com/intel/227), but it has since been removed. When I get home from my Alcatraz visit I'm at, I can get the new link for you.

Likewise, I've got a list of their details. Wife 5 was the reason Stalin banished Nikolai, because she was having an affair with a politician and he killed her for it. Stalin fthen feared him and sent him to the front lines. EDIT: Not banish, persay, just ended his "political reign"

No, five was in Stalin's time based on Nikolai's bio. Besides, this is when he's in like his mid 20s. Nikolai just gets around with alot of women. Oh yeah that's right. So he was banised from Russia... twice :p

Week! I'm so excited EDIT: This new woman that Nikolai mentions may be wife 6? Not sure, just anyone after 5

Kino Der Toten shows the Fernsehturm tower, construction beginning in 1965. Ascension is then after Kino Der Toten, but is in 1963, two years prior. In my opinion, a single timeline theory is not feasible. I noticed that. However, the events in Kino didn't affect the timeline in a major way, so I think it could slide. All time traveling events following Ascension, as far as I can see, are all forward, not backward. I would debate that the events in Kino Der Toten influence the timeline in a way that's greater than any single Black Ops 2 map pack up to this minute. Regardless, the two events are identical in their situations and I'm not entirely sure we can call one admissible and the other not. In this instance, I think we need to look at the timeline as a whole and not discount anything pre-Ascension.

I've wondered that as well, however I don't foresee that as likely. If he had been searching for survivors for decades, starting in 1945, he had found them in 1965+ when Richtofen, Dempsey, Takeo, and Nikolai arrived on the Moon, so that would've been the appropriate time to say he'd found survivors. That's my opinion at least, plus survivors is a more appropriate term after an event that effect a large amount of people (missiles) than a singular/small group (Maxis in MPD). That's assuming that Moon takes place in the 60's. It works with your "alternate timelines" theory, but if we were to stick to just one timeline and avoid paradoxes, then I believe it has to be at least after 2011, after Call of the Dead. Kino Der Toten shows the Fernsehturm tower, construction beginning in 1965. Ascension is then after Kino Der Toten, but is in 1963, two years prior. In my opinion, a single timeline theory is not feasible.

Yes, that is what I believe too. I think he has been searching for people to help him ever since he committed suicide and got sucked into the MPD, which is around 1945. That would mean he wasn't exaggerating when he said he was searching for decades. I've wondered that as well, however I don't foresee that as likely. If he had been searching for survivors for decades, starting in 1945, he had found them in 1965+ when Richtofen, Dempsey, Takeo, and Nikolai arrived on the Moon, so that would've been the appropriate time to say he'd found survivors. That's my opinion at least, plus survivors is a more appropriate term after an event that effect a large amount of people (missiles) than a singular/small group (Maxis in MPD).

That is one of the few things that we are trying to figure out. It, along with Maxis' quote about "decades", are messing with theories on what is happening. Some suggest that if Moon occurs in the late 60's and Maxis states that he's been looking for survivors for decades, than to say that Green Run is in the late 80's is required.

Well, my idea is that there are alternate timelines. Every time we time travel or teleport, we are taken to a new timeline or reality. So therefore, everything can actually happen no matter the time period it's in. For example, everything you do in this reality effects everything in future realities, but no past ones. So seeing as Call of the Dead came first, it effects everything in future timelines (Moon). Moon is second, and it does not effect anything in past timelines (Call of the Dead). And the reason that the map has to happen so late is because of the Chernobyl references, meaning it's at least 1986 in my opinion. Hmm, I guess alternate timelines is a good idea. Wouldn't work with BO2's maps though, since Richtofen and Maxis are still aware of every step the New Crew does. Unless they travel along with you through realities, which would really be a mindfucking situation... Here's a Moon quote by Richtofen: "Nothing happened, atleast in this reality." - powerup_antipts_plr_1 Well sort of, actually. Maxis and Richtofen both are in a separate dimension, their own reality. They're in Aether, so they are able to view over all dimensions.

Well, my idea is that there are alternate timelines. Every time we time travel or teleport, we are taken to a new timeline or reality. So therefore, everything can actually happen no matter the time period it's in. For example, everything you do in this reality effects everything in future realities, but no past ones. So seeing as Call of the Dead came first, it effects everything in future timelines (Moon). Moon is second, and it does not effect anything in past timelines (Call of the Dead). And the reason that the map has to happen so late is because of the Chernobyl references, meaning it's at least 1986 in my opinion.

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"Northern France, 1918. The archaeologists of the Reich unearth an ancient evil beyond their wildest nightmares." This is the description of Origins on the Call of Duty: Black Ops Facebook page, so I decided to do a little Google search and found that in 2010, during a road building project, a tomb was discovered. The Killian Shelter. It was a Pompeii-esque situation, a trench in World War I caves in in a matter of seconds, killing all inside and leaving everything as it was at the time of the incident. 34 German soldiers are killed instantly, and 13 were hauled out shortly after, leaving the remaining 21 for over 90 years. The roof of the shelter contains a tunnel over 400 feet long with heating, telephones, and electricity, which was hit by heavy shells in March of 1918, in Northern France. Now, this may not be the location of Origins, we won't know until the map comes out. I find it to be a very interesting location with an awesome history, so I figured I'd post it. Just throwing it out there ___________________________ http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur ... 94103.html http://www.1914.org/news/buried-for-over-ninety-years/

1918? Hmm, interesting. The archaeologists.. In a war zone in World War I? I think I can make something from that. Thanks for sharing!

Not much difference, but the first four letters were all dated in 1917 and detailed them leaving for there mission in Northern France, these letters are prove enough that the map has to take place between the latest letter written in 1917 and the end of World War I on November 11, 1918, as after that they would have no reason to investigate a Trench and Giant Metal Men, or that the Kaiser's War Machine was creating weird weapons. my take on it. I agree with Misty, especially since Dempsey says in his letter he plans to be at the site by the end of the week, and he said this on November 19, 1917.

Lol. Guess where Mukden happened? Manchuria. Lovin' it, oh man this makes me excited. The date throws me off a bit, but I think that with a bit more research I can make it work.

I'm confused as to what this matter of great importance to the nation could be. His first letter already describes the giant metal men and him becoming the trusted agent to secure the weapons, so I don't get what this could be as it's in 1918. Maybe a continuation, or something, not sure. Only time will tell. EDIT: Totally forgot about the Russo-Japanese War, sweet! I'll see if I can make anymore connections from that. Thanks MMX!

I wouldn't go as far as to say sadistic. Just perhaps necrofilic and nihilistic, perhaps. But we'll see soon enough. First, love the sig. Second, don't forget in closet homosexual (Nothing wrong with that, so don't jump down my throat.) who has a strange obsession with Spleens, and Dempsey's anus. "Richtofen, just because we're its dark in here doesn't mean I can't kick your ass." SLAP "So keep your finger out of mine!" Sadistic: The deriving of pleasure or sexual gratification from inflicting pain or emotional abuse on others. "I bet that hurts doesn't it... GOOD!" "I take your pain... I put my straw in it! *slurping sounds* And I DRINK IT UP!!" "You remind me of Patient 13225... Only you make less noise when I stick things in you..." "I don't know who Jim Bowie was, but he must have been BIG and LONG and SHARP..." "With this the doctor can go for a very long time. Did that turn you on?"

The way I would describe it is that before touching the pyramid, he was sadistic. After touching it, he became insane and hearing voices. I expect to see the sadistic Richtofen.