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Idk, but it could mean that they were in these maps awhile. From 1945- early 46, from the quotes. Damn. But I doubt that they would have "rounds" so would a few people run laps solo while 1-2 slept?

So you aren't aware that DR was once a weapons factory?

Fair enough. That opens many doors to how long they stay. Remember the guy in Verruckt, John? He was sleeping when his partner came along and tried to kill him. So they stay places for a while maybe?

Great find, but IDK how they get to go to sleep, theories?

Can you link me to that quote or anything? In a vid, I wanna make sure that's factual before I break off of my theoiry

EXACTLY! Teleporting to the past wouldn't change their clothes, which means that they had to be there before Ascension, and then changed clothes in Ascension. And with how fast the story moves, I honestly doubt they would have time to get rid of their gray hairs, appear younger, clean their clothes, fix injuries, and grow facial hair.

That is the audio from the "Just the Beginning" Trailer, in case any one is wondering.

Verruckt is in Pankow, Berlin, Germany. And pardon me, but what exactly what this thread about? To tell us about where Verruckt is or about the patients?

Well what doesn't make sense to me is that why Maxis never tried live testing then? OOOH! Forget that, he started his live testing on the 3 heroes, and Richtofen didn't believe it would work.

Lol, so Richtofen is Illuminati, Nikolai might be, Takeo is obsessed with the emperor, and yet Dempsey has no psyche issues

Well, we don't know that 115 makes people zombies when they are alive, since are characters drink 115. Although, it says it rots your mind, so maybe it'll transform them into Zombies. To football: Exactly. He said it would be easier to break the trust barrier with a live specimen, and Richtofen never believed him. And Maxis was never able to break that trust barrier, otherwise (according to Richtofen) he could of has his undead army.

Lol ya. Between the appearance and the quote, things are messed up. I hope 3arc knows how to make this all work in the end. Let's hope they don't end up going, "SHIT! We should not have put that in there earlier, because nothing will make sense and we can't fix it."

Well based off everything I know about them,, they were like Josef Mengele, and only did live testing. Whether it be heat tests to see how hot the soldiers could be, or injecting ink into children's eyes to make the ultimate race, I haven't come across anything that indicates they tested on anything dead. As far as the Hellhounds: I think it's like the Thief. He can caome in and out of Aether as he pleases and can use teleporters, the hellhounds were successful in going through teleporter to mainframe, so I think they can enter and exit Aether as they please, aka when Sam tells them to fetch our souls.

xD Lol, but what do you think of the 731 research? Think it's possible that's Tak?

Lulz Ya SNN is the hardest ever so far. I was thinking Unit 731 is part of this, it's fits so well. They ran tests and were stationed from 1935-1945. Which would fit the Nazi's infiltrating a station of theirs (SNN maybe) before testing began! They were a research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army, which is what Takeo is in. There were eight divisions of 731, one of which was research for biological weapons used in the field, in particular the production of devices to spread germs and parasites. Remember how we found Ray Gun blueprints in SNN? That's them. Takeo is in Division 2 of Unit 731 based out of the Rising Sun Facility. Does that sound about right? As far as your edit, there is a lot of loose ends between there, but the uniforms are the same as in Kino but different from the W@W maps, so I think it's before Ascension and after Kino.

Check the CoTD section of my post, it has the answer in the bottom left of the pic viewtopic.php?f=67&t=11967

Also, about the time period of Der Riese. We know it's after Oct 1 1945. They go to SNN and back to Der Riese to see a Solar Eclipse eh? Well, no Solar Eclipses occured in the end of 1945 or at all in 1946, next up on the line in May 20, 1947. It was a Total Eclipse like in DR. So is SNN between November of 1945, and May 20, 1947?

It's on Peleliu Island, would you like to know my reasoning? I posted this earlier in this thread:

Please do, what would you like me to find? I think I know it's location.

Shit, read my edit above

Oh 100% agreed. October 1 1945 was the last known date of Maxis' life. So, researching, the Nuremberg trials officially started on November 20th, 1945. So does that put Maxis' death between OCT 1 and NOV 20? *EDIT* The Soviets had complete control of Berlin on April 30, 1945, at 2:25 PM

You are both right actually, the war in Europe ended September 2, 1945 I think, so the Nuremberg Trials hadn't begun yet, so I guess technically it could still be under GER control. But I think maxis was aware the war was over since he was writing to the third Reich he knows a ton. He ended up not telling Richtofen, and didn't mass produce the dg2 cuz the war was over.

It is in DR because we here the monkey screech, and DR had an Animal Testing Lab, CoTD doesn't. Also, why wouldn't it be under GER control? Maxis being alive doesn't really point to anything your speaking of, or at least the way you worded it.

good point, however Dempsey also mentions "wait! you took us hear on purpose?!" ok i know it obviously means the "place" and not the "time" but it could be taken either way depending on your outlook on the timeline. bottom line is though, Treyarch like to mess the map order up so it IS more than likely Shangri-La is set before all the maps year (timewise) as NDU was the first map we played but the second outbreak. i still believe though that it set after COTD and before 2012 december due to the dark clip of the preview and what looks like planets aligning (either that or is some sort of lunar eclipse which would be possible also due to the mayan calendar in COTD) Well, the 2012 thing isn't relevant though since CoTD is in March of 2013. And I do think it just means place.

Alright, well I agree that teleporters screwed things up, but we can't judge the maps off guns. Given that like the same guns are in each map means there at the same time, so that's not really a strong argument. Personally I don't believe in the whole THIS MAP DOESN'T HAPPEN thing, if were there, it happened. Now it can't be W@W timeline. The maps with characters: SNN, DR, Kino, Ascension, CoTD, S-L. Now off my evidence, it has to be before Ascension, so: SNN, DR, Kino, S-L, Ascension, CoTD They CAN'T WASH/CLEAN CLOTHES!! They aren't going to wash their clothes, or fix their wounds. They don't change the clothes and appearance for nothing. In Ascension, Richtofen is aging because he has grey hairs, has a huge scratch on his cheek. In Shangri-La, he is younger, has no cuts, and has his old uniform. I'm not sure if the Gersch quote is breaking the 4th wall, or maybe CoTD is after and S-L is before, but that doesn't make sense. I think they used the teleporter in Kino to CoTD, then turned around and used it for S-L, THEN went to Ascension.