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While we might be able to study it, we still don't know, especially since no one was there. We might "learn" that the asteroids took out the dinosaurs, but from my knowledge of scientific history, we cannot prove it. Officers can prove the murders due to witnesses and the technology of our time, which is hard to study the events of Earth before we were even here. It's all pure theory.

It does appear to me that it's floating in his hand Next up: What are the sacrificing to? What are they sacrificing for?

Absolutely. If somebody can provide a better answer then I'm sold but I think we have the right idea, for now. At times you can often find yourself arguing/debating with someone even though you both think the same thing, the confusion comes from the way posts are worded and how you interpret a certain explanation! Like you, I too am trying to figure all of this out; time travel and paradoxes are such a prominent plot element in the zombies storyline that I think if we could fully understand how it all works then our understanding of the zombie story would be a lot more clear. We should maybe get together and share some ideas on the matter sometime, With two minds at work we are more likely to uncover the truth! Gosh that's a great idea! I would love to work with you in this! The sooner we start the better, my Skype is TacticalInsertion so hit me up when you can

Yeah until someone comes up with something else I'm sticking to this. This is one of those topics that I can be easily swayed, but it's just such a confusing topic I'm trying to figure it out. I mean it's difficult to try and make sense of something that's not possible xD But I appreciate you helping me out and discussing, you're the kind of person CoDz loves! :D

Apologies

Lol you realize that monkey quote is a joke right? It's not really a connection. That's like saying Richtofen likes homosexual intercourse, and he plays on moon, so your saying homosexual intercourse is connected to Moon... it just doesn't make sense.

Damn, damn great post dude. I see what you mean by cancelling out now. As far as getting it 4 times at once, I want to say that it's purely for gameplay mechanics to get all the characters the perks and Treyarch wouldn't just get rid of the Focusing Stone the second the Easter Egg ends and then 'restarts.' I know it's a piss-poor reason, but I can't think of anything else :/ Pick it apart :)

First off, when they teleport back in time to restart the egg, the the first radio was NOT recorded way before they were trapped and died. I can't tell if you mean in literal time (including the idea of time travel) or chronologically. Either way it's false, because they are traveling in the 2000's looking for Agartha, then they go back in time and get trapped AFTER they activate the Eclipse. But going back in the paradox doesn't cancel out any other timelines because they still happened. And you are right in your last paragraph, but that can't be done without creating an alternate timeline, paradox's in the same mainline don't work like that. As for the italics, I put them because I know we disagree on the outcome of the paradox, so I was trying to show that this is what I personally believe, not what 'we' believe. For the link, I forgot I posted it in the Research Facility, not the Gen Disc., so here is the link: viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18349

Fair enough I knew what you meant, I just didn't want anyone getting the wrong idea

Oh damn! And don't forget the GKNOVA6 drop file that has the Illuminati pyramid with black sun on top!

Lol I posted my theory in the General Zombis Discussino

Decals on what?

We can't confirm that they were destroyed in Der Riese, but I do agree that Ed doesn't have them.

Lol I'll look through some stuff. You can add anything you find I suppose. I posted my Shangri-La Time-Travel theory in the General Zombs Discussion a minute ago.

Well it didn't cancel out an alternate timeline, I think they just created a new one. The characters "reset" everything back to how it was, but that doesn't mean they reset the decision made to save them the first time, that decision was still made, therefore the alternate timeline would still exist.

Lol but that type of paradox is not possible, you have to create alternate timelines. This theory says that if you go to the past and change a particular event, in the mainline nothing ever happened. Instead a new timeline is created that branches off at the moment of change. Think of time as a river, every decision creates a new stream down the river. Each stream is an alternate timeline of events due to your decisions. The main river is the main timeline in which nothing was effected.

I am just basing this off of all my knowledge of paradox's. But idk if this means anything towards this conversation, Gary and Brock get trapped when they activate the eclipse. But either way, I think that we are just dealing with a standard paradox in which the same thing will happen over and over until we stop interfering. The second we stop interfering, they die for good.

No worries bud, that's what were here for CoDz is a great place for that, just ask a question and you'll almost always get an answer

Imagine this. When you go back in time you are effecting the whole universe, so if you don't go back in time you are not effecting the universe. So the second the team decided to not go back in time again, the whole universe if effected. The second they make the decision to go back in time for the first time, the paradox begins, making the universe stop, thus making a paradox impossible.

Yeah I think it's Griffin Station.

Time to apply it to the story guys!

This has been discussed thoroughly in the past and it is the Moon base I'm pretty sure.

But for one, if you were in a paradox it would mean that time WOULD have to stop because if you keep going back and forth between not saving them and saving them, everything else around you would have to revert to the state is was in both cases. If that makes sense? Example: Anyone that might have seen you talking about saving them would have to go back and forth between observing you talking about it and not talking about. You would throw the entire universe into a paradox which stops right where the 2 possible outcomes diverge. Basically, if you're in a paradox the whole universe would have to wait for you to get out of it before it can keep moving through time... But of course you can't get out of a paradox, simply because it's a paradox. Just the things I mull over, it's a mute point considering we already said either could be possible.

The other theory: Basically have time that branches off like a river and both outcomes take a different direction and you are in a super position between both outcomes. So every time you go back in time to save them you enter a new timeline, thus creating alternate timelines. We don't know which could be correct because you can plug the information into each of them and they would make sense and have the same result/outcome, so it could be other.

And I really can't tell if this is regarding the thread. When they die, that is the reason that you go to save them. When you save them, they haven't died so you have no reason to save them, thus undoing the course of events that led you to save them in the first place. Therefore, you don't go and save them, so they die, making you want to save them. It repeats until you stop interfering with the situation.