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Okay, I pressed reply without re-reading what I had written. I'm sorry that I probably seemed confrontational and rude, I'm genuinely trying to help! Honest! I apologise now, and again, and further contributions to the subject should be done via Private Message so as not to deter from the topic! To continue the topic, I agree with Superhands. Updated WaW would kick butt, and I think would be very popular amony WaW fans. Unfortunately though I cannot see it ever happening simply because Activision wouldn't make much money from it. Plenty of people would just say 'I'm not paying to get the same maps AGAIN' and leave it. I would buy them but know of plenty of people who wouldn't. -Jolteon

Wow, way to steal my post closer On topic, all the problems could be solved if Treyarch just included an option to play original or new maps. Then we wouldn't have any of these arguments. -Jolteon Hold your horses, I don't mean to steal your post closer. I didn't know at first. Why did you just said that? It seems kinda harsh to me... Sorry dude but you posted with that, for what I could tell being the first time, right after my post. I mean, it's not just similar, it's exactly the same just with a change of colour. I'm sorry but as far as I can see it was copied from me. I don't have a problem with you using it, it isn't exactly anything important it just ticks me off when I see something that appears to be a blatant copy of someone else, whether it be a copy of myself, or anyone else. By all means continue to use it, who am I to tell you to stop? Jut think next time what the consequences might be because some people may be much harsher than myself. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm being harsh, but I just try and make people see the full consequences of their actions. If you have any other problems or wish to further continue this discussion, please do so in private messages so that we do not clog up the thread with off-topic discussions. Thanks. -Jolteon

Yup, Paypal can take just about any kind of currency as far as I know. You can either give money in your own currency and have them convert it to American dollars, or you can just give a specific amount of American dollars and they will calculate the necessary money to give in your own currency. If for some reason you are unable to do that within the donation screen, you are more than welcome to just send it directly to my paypal account which is linked with my [email protected] email. Coolio, I will try and get that done sometime soon -Jolteon

Wow, way to steal my post closer On topic, all the problems could be solved if Treyarch just included an option to play original or new maps. Then we wouldn't have any of these arguments. -Jolteon

If they wanted to do that then they would need to make it so that the Classic maps could still be played as Classic maps. I for one have no problem with them adding a perk like Flopper to Der Riese, or any perk to Der Riese for that matter, but maps like Nacht, Verruckt, and Shi No Numa should be left alone. I don't even like the addition of the new weapons, but then again I am a WaW fanboy -Jolteon

Congratulations to all winners! I will be sure to try and make myself available for next time -Jolteon

Can you accept donations from the UK or just the US? If it's possible I will try and get some funds together over the next month or so, so that I can finally give that donation I've been wanting to give for over a year -Jolteon

Not from the sources that I used. As I stated above, the sheep was thrown back into the whole, and the 'seal-like creature' jumped back in. As far as stories go, it is sometimes seen around the area of its 'birth'. -Jolteon

Oh yes, Firing Range is very closely linked to zombies! Check out AlphaSnakes post in the Zombie Asylum about the Satanic involvement in zombies, and all his links to Firing Range, a lot of my theories are based from his -Jolteon Well where supposedly is Mel's hole? Because I know Firing Range is supposed to be located somewhere in Cuba. Haha, Mel's Hole is in Washington so I doubt there is any link However, the other said hole is in Nevada, close to a certain Area 51 that has huge involvement in zombies -Jolteon

Oh yes, Firing Range is very closely linked to zombies! Check out AlphaSnakes post in the Zombie Asylum about the Satanic involvement in zombies, and all his links to Firing Range, a lot of my theories are based from his -Jolteon

You're probably right, it is probably bunch of bull crap But in terms of zombes, there are just a few connections that I could make, and I love conspiracy theories (probably how I got so into zombies) and couldn't resist doing all the research! I appreciate the brains from you both! -Jolteon

Hi guys! This is DarkJolteon coming at you with a new 'theory' of sorts, regarding a possible future zombie map! This is my first thread like this for a while, so forgive me if I'm a little rusty WARNING! HUGE WALL OF TEXT APPROACHING! ONLY PROCEED IF PREPARED FOR OVERLOAD OF INFORMATION BACKGROUND Mel's Hole is a supposed geographic anomaly discovered by Mel Waters on his land near Ellensburg, Washington. Waters claimed that he lived in or near Manastash Ridge, Washington, about nine miles due west of Ellensburg, though later investigation revealed that no such person was listed as a resident. According to Waters, the hole has paranormal properties, including a possibly infinite depth and the ability to restore dead animals to life. The first references to the hole were made in a series of interviews with Waters, made by Art Bell on the American radio show Coast to Coast AM (which focuses on conspiracy theories and the paranormal). Waters initially appeared on Coast to Coast AM on February 21, 1997. He subsequently appeared on February 24, 1997, April 2000 and January 29, 2002. His most recent appearance on the show was on December 20, 2002. While speaking on Coast to Coast AM, Waters related several stories about the hole and its properties. He also claimed that he had discovered that the hole was in excess of 15 miles (24 kilometers) deep, which he figured out by spooling out 18 reels of 20lb test fishing line, tied end on end, into the hole. Waters claims that he attached a "triangular, one-pound, standard lead fishing weight" to the end of the fishing line. Waters also told a story of a local man who dropped the remains of his deceased dog's body down the hole. Later, the man saw his dog while out hunting and attempted to call it; however, it appeared to belong to another hunter. Waters also speculated that the hole's properties might be tied to some cosmological events, including unspecified alignments of the moon. For decades residents from the Manastash Ridge region have talked about one of the most unusual aspects of the sprawling landscape that haloed their hometown. Hidden nearby, on a densely forested parcel of private property, was a seemingly bottomless well that was surrounded by an aura of mystery and danger. This unfathomably deep pit was said to be about 9-feet in diameter and was shored up with hand placed bricks to a depth of nearly 15-feet until it gave way to earthen walls. The hole had been known to locals for generations — and to Native Americans before them — and had been used as an unofficial dumping ground for everything from defunct refrigerators to old tires and television tubes to livestock and pet carcasses. What disturbed those who utilized this illegal dumping ground most was the fact that no matter how heavy the object being discarded may have been, those that tossed it into the void never heard it hit bottom. This led some of the more supernaturally inclined in the region to dub the place the “Devil’s Hole,” and rumors quickly spread that this never-ending crater tunneled a direct trajectory to Hades, making it, in effect, a highway to hell. In September of 2008, an inter-tribal medicine man by the moniker of Red Elk — who’s legal name is Gerald Osborne — appeared on a radio show and claimed to have visited the enigmatic hole with his father as a young boy in 1961. According to Red Elk, the hole was well known to the indigenous peoples, as well as local and federal authorities, and was believed to be an unbelievable 24 and 28-miles deep. The medicine man also speculated that pit served as a tunnel which connected to Mt. Rainier and that it might be associated with both UFOs and vile, quasi-reptilian entities that allegedly dwell deep within the bowls of the Earth known as “reptoids.” A Washington native by the name of Jay Nickell also claimed to have stumbled across the Devil’s Hole while exploring the region as a teen. Other folks who stumbled across the site notice an eerie sensation that would wash over them when they neared the pit. They also noted that birds and other crearures seemed to give the allegedly “evil” hole a wide berth and that the rim of the pit was lined with the bones of small animals. Over the years visitors would come and go, but none of them would make a mark quite as deep as the next owner of the property… a man named Mel Waters. MEL WATERS BUYS A HOLE: Waters, who claims he and his wife bought the property sometime in 1993, discovered the hole soon afterwards and — much like all those who came before him — used it as a convenient (if environmentally unfriendly) rubbish bin. It wouldn’t be long, however, before he became irresistably drawn to this strange hollow. In particular Waters became fascinated by the its’ inexplicable ability to “devour” all that was thrown within. In his own words: In the summer of 1996, Waters’ decided that his first experiment would be to ascertain just how deep this crevice actually was. Being, by his own admission, an avid marine angler, Waters had a plethora or high test fishing line. So, in an effort to discern the depth of the pit, he rigged the line to the center of the opening and attached what he referred to as a “triangular, one pound, standard lead fish weight” to a long spool of fishing line and lowered it into the black depths of the hole… it never reached the bottom. Waters attached spool after spool of to each other, but he was always thwarted in his attempts to find the base of the pit. He even took to tying a roll of Life Savers to the end of the line to see in there was water at the bottom, but the candy always returned topside dry as a bone. Eventually, determining the depth of his mystery pit would become an obsession with Waters, even to the detriment of his own marriage. After spending countless hours spooling out an extraordinary 18 reels of 5,000-foot, 20 lbs test and coming up empty handed, he came to the conclusion that the hole must be in excess of 80,000-feet deep. It was then that Waters discovered that the hole had even more extraordinary — and frankly terrifying — properties. DEAD DOGS AND DEATHLY SILENCE The first thing he noticed was the fact that whenever he would shout down into the well there would be no echo. Waters also noted that his own dogs dug their paws into the dirt to prevent him from dragging them to close to this portal to the unknown. According to Waters: As if a dearth of echoes and whimpering guard dogs weren’t creepy enough, according to Waters, there was a fellow who claimed that his dead dog had resurrected — à la Stephen King’s classic “Pet Sematary” — after he had tossed the canine’s remains in the Devil’s Hole. In Waters’ own words: The tale of the resurrected dog had such an effect on Waters that he claimed that instructions were incorporated into his will that his remains be disposed of into the pit following his demise. One can only hope that his benefactors (or the local authorities) show better judgment whenever that day occurs. BLACK OPS AND BIG HOLES Within months of appearing on Coast to Coast, Waters and the Devil’s Hole — which would soon be re-dubbed “Mel’s Hole” by Bell’s enormous fan base — would gain a significant amount of notoriety. Waters claimed that he was beset by a series of odd events not long after he went public with his information regarding the hole. The first strange incident occurred while Waters was on his own property en route to the Devil’s Hole. Waters planned to continue his research when he was suddenly stopped by a pair of men identifying themselves as “government agents.” These agents — one in plain clothes and two in military regalia — informed him that there had been a plane crash nearby and that the area had been cordoned off. The plainclothes further stated that no one but military personnel would be allowed into the restricted area. Waters then noticed men wearing yellow hazard suits milling around behind the trio that were blocking his path. Waters, angered at being denied access to his own property, demanded that they let him pass and that’s when these so-called agents got down to brass tacks. According to Waters the agents proceed to inform him that if he did not follow their instructions he would be falsely accused and arrested for concealing a meth lab on his land. It is presumable that the evidence of this lab would have been manufactured if necessary. It goes without saying that the military officers from the area wholeheartedly deny such allegations. Ken Cooper, a spokesman for the Army’s Yakima Training Center, dismissed the entire incident to the Tri-City Herald in 1997: While this may well be the case, one can’t dismiss the possibility that these denials are being handed down from a higher authority or that — assuming this is a classic “black op” — Cooper and his cohorts simply aren’t in the “know” about this incident. Regardless of the veracity of either Cooper or Waters statements, the latter claimed that following this threat the agents then made and even stranger (and exceedingly lucrative) offer. If Waters agreed to lease the government his property into perpetuity he would be given a hefty monthly stipend of $250,000 to live off. There was just one caveat… he had to leave the country… Immediately. Waters, whose marriage was ending badly, decided against bucking the system and accepted their offer. A lover of wildlife, Waters used the generous leasing fees he had accrued to start a wombat-rescue operation and for the next two years he would live a fairly contented life in Australia. As satisfied as he was down under, Waters was finally overwhelmed by homesickness and in December of 2000 he boarded a plane and — against specific orders from still unknown representatives of the U.S. Government — returned to the States. Once there things would take a frightening turn. First off, his liberal leasing fees were immediately cut off, indicating to Waters that he had been under constant surveillance. Secondly, while riding on a bus to Olympia, Washington soon after his plane touched ground in America, Waters testified that he had witnessed a dispute between a fellow passenger and police officers. The officers allegedly removed Waters from the bus under the pretense that he had to sign a police statement confirming what he had seen. That would be the last thing that he would remember for almost 2-weeks. Waters swore that the next thing he could recollect was stumbling around San Francisco in a stupor no less than 12-days after he was removed from the bus, with no clue as to how he got there. He further asserted that he had been physically beaten and that his rear molars had been extracted during his “black out.” As if all of this weren’t enough to send conspiracy theorists into a tizzy, Waters further claimed that he had IV tracks on his arm. This convinced him that he had been drugged by the police or — more likely than not — government agents dressed as police. As if his life weren’t already in enough of a tailspin, Waters soon found that not only had his stipend been suspended, but that all of his assets had been frozen and that his Australian rescue facility had been dismantled. Perplexed and fearing for his own life, Waters phoned his nephew who wired him enough cash to take a bus back to Manastash Ridge. Once back on his property, Waters was served with legal documents by what he referred to as “men in black types,” who indicated that his ownership of the land was in question due to “modifications” that had been made to the property and that the government would officially be taking control of the land. One of Waters neighbors got a hold of him days later and told him that he had seen large black vans outside of Mel’s house during his absence and that dark-clad men had been ransacking the place.Waters felt sure these were also shady black op agents. As if things weren’t bad enough for Waters, he was officially presented with divorce papers and, even worse, diagnosed with esophageal cancer almost immediately afterwards. Now at the end of his proverbial rope, Waters once again contacted the one sympathetic voice he could find, Art Bell, and in April of 2000, Waters once again spoke about his misadventures. He related his harrowing tale to the inquisitive masses and even recounted a story told to him by an old neighbor regarding the huge Stonehenge-like monoliths that were once said to halo the hole. Could these alleged monoliths indicate that it was an ancient place of worship? Waters began to believe that it was and this led him to the next leg of his fascinating journey. MEL WATERS FINDS A SECOND HOLE: Waters took it upon himself to research other mystery holes throughout the world and managed to discover another strange pit — alleged to be on public land in Nevada — that was similar in size and reputation to the Devil’s Hole, which he had, for a brief period, owned. Waters made the pilgrimage to Nevada and once there he purportedly continued his research into these anomalous openings. It seems that Waters was able to make friends with the local Basque people in the area and they took him to the sacred hole, which he described as also being about 9-feet in diameter, but unlike the Devil’s Hole this round aperture had a solid metallic “collar” sticking out of the ground around the lip of the gap. This notched collar was evidently man made (or at least intelligently designed) and rose about 2-feet above the pit Does this mean that this portal — to what may well be another, possibly Lovecraftian, dimension or even hell itself — has an as yet undiscovered seal laying somewhere in the desert? Or could this be where the UFOs, which are occasionally associated with the hole, land for reasons too nefarious to mention? If Waters knows, he’s not talking. Waters did disclose, however, that when he dropped his toolbox onto the collar the impact didn’t make a sound. This seems comparable to the lack of echoes found at the first Devil’s Hole. Is there some sort of strange sound dampening device attached to these holes? If so, where is it? And, more importantly, why does it exist? Waters also claims that the area around the collar is warm year round and keeps nearby tents toasty even in the winter. He also confirmed that the metal from which the collar is constructed descends into the interior of the pit for as far as the eye can see. THE EXPERIMENTS CONTINUE The remote locale of this 2nd Devil’s Hole was said to be under the supervision of the Federal Bureau of Land Management and was, according to Waters, utilized by both Native Americans and “members of the Basque community” for grazing sheep. Waters later told Bell — during one of his five on air interviews — that Basques claimed that the hole had been there since their community had been founded in the 1800s. Waters petitioned the curious Basques to help him in his continued experiments regarding the nature of these holes and they obliged him. Some of these tests yielded results that were merely unusual… and one them ended in an event that was nothing short of horrifying. The first experiments consisted lowering a bucket of store bought ice approximately 1,500-feet down the hole, with a test bucket remaining topside. When the team raised the bucket they discovered that it had not melted, but what truly caught their attention was the fact that the ice was now warm to the touch with a silica-like feel to it and, even more bizarrely, it actually became a flammable substance. No one could explain this chemical change in the ice, but one of the men brought the ice home and filled his woodstove with it. He claimed that the “burning ice” burned for three months and seemed to have a strange penchant for sucking all of the moisture out of the air around it. By the end of the winter the woodstove had inexplicably plummeted through the floor of the man’s shack sinking 5-feet into the ground; soon after the entire hut was said to have dissolved into a fine wood dust. According to Waters, a group of unidentified (likely government funded) researchers quickly descended upon the dissolute shack and attempted to raise the sunken woodstove. The men employed heavy chains and construction equipment, but were unsuccessful until they filled the crevice above the stove with water. Waters and other eyewitnesses claim that upon contact with the water the chains fused to the woodstove and the team was then able to lift it from its moistened tomb. The stove was swiftly secured to a large truck and stolen away to an undisclosed locale. SHRIEKING SHEEP AND THE BIRTH OF A MONSTER While burning ice is unquestionably odd, the following experiment would test even the limits of Waters sanity. In an act of what must be construed as animal cruelty, Waters and his Basque cohorts then decided that a live subject was necessary for the next test, so they quickly snagged a sheep from one of the many nearby flocks and dragged it toward the hole. Waters claimed that the sheep became agitated when it approached the hole — much like the reaction of his own dogs at the site of the first hole — and that the petrified animal had to be “stunned” and shoved into a crate in order to subdue it. The men then began to lower the crate and the poor creature awoke as it began its descent. Waters confirmed that the beast began thrashing violently in its crate and making sounds that can only be compared to shrieks of terror. The crate was purportedly lowered to a depth of approximately 1,500-feet, at which point the sheep’s undulations and screams were silenced. That was when the metallic rim of the hole suddenly began to vibrate. Waters and company, no doubt startled by this development, backed away from the pit and allowed the unfortunate sheep to linger in the complete blackness of the crevice for no less than 30-minutes before they worked up the nerve to hoist the crate back up the surface. It should come as no surprise that the animal was found dead inside the crate. Terror alone would have been enough to kill the poor beast, but when they cut the creature open for an impromptu autopsy, the men found that “the sheep looked like it had been cooked” from the inside! As if that weren’t disconcerting enough, Waters discovered a gelatinous, tumor-like glob where the sheep’s internal organs should have been. Waters removed the “tumor” and that’s when things started to get weird… really weird. Some of the Basque men noticed that the tumor seemed to be moving of its own accord, as if something was pushing out from within. Waters decided that the tumor needed to be cut open, and one intrepid fellow did the deed, releasing a creature that Waters described as looking like a “fetal seal” connected to the tumor inside the sheep with an umbilical cord. Waters went on to claim that this strange tumor seal had haunting human-like eyes, which it locked onto the experimenters. This as yet unclassified creature from the abyss and its surface hosts stared at each other in stunned silence for the better part of two hours before this sheep born abomination apparently “nodded” at its would-be captors and dove back into the hole. The men swiftly regained their composure and hurtled the tarp wrapped tumor and carcass into the depths with it. Instead of being mortified by this biological atrocity, Waters felt that the seal-like beast was “filled with compassion” and he believed that his experience with this entity resulted in the total remission of his esophageal cancer. Waters further asserted that the seal-like entity made regular visits to the Basque shepherds who made camp near the hole and was even able to communicate with the humans via a portable radio. Sadly, efforts to record the creature’s voice resulted only in a series of unintelligible, static-like sounds. BULLETPROOF BIRDS AND BLACK BEAMS Strange as the tumor seal may be, Waters claimed that the locals also began noticing a new species of brightly plumaged bird that seemed to be making its home around the new hole. At least six specimens of the bright red, blue beaked birds — which were quickly christened “sunbirds” — have been seen orbiting the fathomless pit since the “sheep experiment.” This, of course, begs the question: did the “animal sacrifice” performed by Waters and crew in the name of science unintentionally open a rift through which the fauna of another dimension can enter our own? Farfetched as that may seem — presuming that anything Waters claims is true — then what other explanation is there? And, if that does prove to be the case, how long before larger predators follow these birds through the opening? Perhaps these friendly visits by the seal-entity are soon to be followed by not-so friendly visits by something much larger and potentially carnivorous. Waters publicly stated that he believed that the bird came from deep within the hole and he claims that the locals have already concocted a myth wherein that these birds were somehow responsible for the sheep’s death as well as the tumor that produced the seal creature. Waters, being more scientifically inclined, attempted to shoot down a bird so he could dissect it, but his efforts were met with naught. Although he did manage to shoot one of the birds, after a short tumble the avian anomaly righted itself and continued on its merry way. Waters later found two crumpled bullets below where the bird had been flying. This has led him to conclude that the birds were likely bulletproof. Waters also told Bell that this Nevada Hole occasionally emitted what he described as a “black beam,” which shoots into the heavens in short bursts. He conceded that: On a closing note, rumor has it that one of the, evidently suicidal, Basque men volunteered to be lowered into the hole in the same fashion as the sheep, but Waters and his fellow amateur scientists, in what must be considered a rare burst of good judgment, managed to convince the foolhardy volunteer against the decision. If a sheep allegedly produced a mutant seal-like beast, what would a human percolate in his internal incubator? I cringe to imagine. WHERE IS WATERS NOW? In the past few years, Waters has largely been off the proverbial radar, but on June 28th, 2011, a letter from someone claiming to be Waters as posted online by the Whales in Space website. His comments are reprinted here verbatim: ____________________________________________________________________________________ THE LINK TO ZOMBIES Okay, out of scientific reporter mode, and into seventeen year old Zombie's Theorist DarkJolteon... So this is all VERY fascinating, but how does it relate to Zombies? Well, honestly? There isn't much link whatsoever! At least, not to the current storyline we have been given... HOWEVER, before you all disappear, let me try and convince you that it COULD be linked with Zombies EXTREMELY easily! Now, you will probably all know (if you know myself) that I am a big believer of the possibilities of Satanic involvement in Zombies. So surely, if my original Paris theory is incorrect, we still need an 'entrance' to hell? That is the simple way I can link, but don't worry, I have more! Right, I want to talk about the Black Ops and Big Holes section. I think the title really gives away what I am going to say. A bunch of 'secret' Government operations, or Black Ops operations (herp derp, Black Ops 2) just screams out to me that it could possibly be used in Zombies, or even perhaps in the Black Ops Two campaign! Now, I'm NOT saying that this particular sequence of events will be the Black Ops Two storyline, that would be preposterous bearing in mind that all this happened within the last 20 years... However, I AM saying that it COULD be used in relation to future Black Ops Two events. Next, I will move on to the specific Zombies relations I want to make. I specifically would like to talk about the experiment with the sheep. It is said that the sheep mutated and an unknown creature was created because of it. Let me offer you this; What do we already know that has caused mutations, and hence created 'monsters'? Is it possible that perhaps this mutation has been caused by the one thing we have been fighting against since Nacht der Untoten? Of course I speak of our old enemy Element 115. We have seen the mutations in humans with the zombies, we have seen the mutations in dogs with the hellhounds. Perhaps this is the mutation with sheep? Okay, so here is my main theory. We already have the story as to what happens up until Moon. So what happens next? Well, we all know that the planet is destroyed to an extent. This is mostly likely going to cause widespread panic and huge disorder. This is where Maxis and his trickery will come into play. Maxis has used the same techniques used on Mason to 'brainwash' an individual, possibly one of our heroes, to almost take control of the shattered ramins of the planet. Take advantage and become a 'Strong Leader' that people will look up to. However, of course this will all go wrong. Element 115 will be distributed across the planet to try and 'help' suffering countries. Of course we all know the REAL effects of 115. Eventually, a small group of people led by an American Marine called Tank Dempsey will fight back. They will show the world the TRUE effects of 115, and the 'brainwashed' individual will be stopped. After this all of the said Element 115 will be transported, and hidden in seemingly bottomless pits. The suddenly, out of nowhere, an unsuspecting man discovers one of the said pits. Once the Government found out, they stepped in. This is how we get to the scenario posted above. I know this is a long shot, but I've thought long and hard and can DEFINATELY see something like this being a big part of future zombies. Okay, so I MAY have put far too much into the research, and not enough into the zombies, but it's been a while so I guess mistakes are to be expected. I really value the thoughts, opinions and criticisms of EVERYONE on the site, so please leave any thoughts below! Also, let me know how I did on my first theory since my Catacombs theory! Thank you all for reading, I love you all! -Jolteon

EXACTLY! The Catacombs referances are literally everywhere! I didn't bring it up when I played the MW3 campaign because I saw no Zombies relations to it, but now surely the Catacombs are the biggest lead for a new zombie map, and the continuation of the storyline? And I agree with you, Jimmy Z. WAS involved in the Wii version of MW3, so is it not possible that he snuck some zombies referances into the Wii version? Plus, if this is the case, surely this would create more sales because now we will all go out and buy the Wii version of the game to find the information Now THAT sounds very Activision I'm gonna follow this up, see if I can find some information, and will report back if I find anything... But for now, I call upon all Wii users, go out there and find the wonderous things we need! -Jolteon I have a wii but i have it for x-box so I'm not going to spend more cash on that. my friend I think uses the wii and ill have to borrow it from him and snoop around. I'd probably have to do every single thing again but ALL IN THE NAME OF ZOMBIES!!..... Ill at least do some of it if i can borrow it. Anyway guys theres no way you can dispute anything zombie related in MW3 at least in the wii version. And don't go all "But the catacombs are a main tourist attraction in Paris!" because it's not really. Well done good sir! I admire your commitment! And I have to agree. YES, the Catacombs are a tourist hotspot for Paris, but what people tend to forgot is the sheer size of the Catacombs! A very small amount of the Catacombs is actually open to the public, and the majority of them are actuaally completely unexplored! As I said in my thread, the possibilities are endless... Although if you want any more info, you'll have to go to the thread -Jolteon

EXACTLY! The Catacombs referances are literally everywhere! I didn't bring it up when I played the MW3 campaign because I saw no Zombies relations to it, but now surely the Catacombs are the biggest lead for a new zombie map, and the continuation of the storyline? And I agree with you, Jimmy Z. WAS involved in the Wii version of MW3, so is it not possible that he snuck some zombies referances into the Wii version? Plus, if this is the case, surely this would create more sales because now we will all go out and buy the Wii version of the game to find the information Now THAT sounds very Activision I'm gonna follow this up, see if I can find some information, and will report back if I find anything... But for now, I call upon all Wii users, go out there and find the wonderous things we need! -Jolteon

Okay so it is probably nothing. Pretty much all CoD games have had the Teddy Bear. I'm 99% sure that the Teddy Bear's mean absolutely nothing, but people have still skipped over Alpha's comments that COULD have some relevance: Surely this is worth following up? Currently we have nothing to work with in terms of working out the next zombie map (as far as I know), so surely we should at least check out what is placed in our laps? I dunno, I guess I'm biased because it has relevance to one of my threads but this is my immediate reaction -Jolteon

Wow. We are not worthy to be in your presence :shock: -Jolteon

Welcome back good sir! I am DarkJolteon, the resident Pokemon! Any questions then do feel free to ask me, I am more than happy to help Enjoy yourself! -Jolteon

Welcome good sir! I am DarkJolteon, the resident Pokemon! Any questions then do feel free to ask me, I am more than happy to help Enjoy yourself! -Jolteon

Welcome good sir! I am DarkJolteon, the resident Pokemon! Any questions then do feel free to ask me, I am more than happy to help Enjoy yourself! -Jolteon

Sorry I'm missing this one. I will return for Pi day though :twisted: -Jolteon

Trololol! Hope they don't go down for too long otherwise it could mess with the PS3 playdate... I have every trust in you guys that it won't though -Jolteon

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LOVE the new intro! It is exactly the sort of thing that I think is good in a Youtube intro. My vote goes to that one in the OP! -Jolteon

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