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Err, no? There isn't a story within a story, but rather the implanted pasts of the people in the story. As for the rest of your post... that was confusing. Do you think you could organize your thoughts?

There is also the name Delgado somewhere. JD = J. Delgado = Jose Delgado Jose Delgado was a scientist that sent electric signals to the minds of people for responses. It is also one of the main clues in the Dreamland Theory.

So THAT'S where it is. I knew there was one there, I just didn't know where. I would just shoot randomly at the Chandelier until it activated.

I'm fairly sure NDU is not part of the storyline. There's too little in it to qualify as such and can't really be twisted in... unless of course it was a small test to see if the project was working, but that's doubted.

So they had it planned from the start... assuming this is the correct theory. I'm still looking for something to downside this theory so I can prove it wrong. My brain is wracking for a challenge that I can't find.

Notice the clock in her normal room is at 10 and 2, the classic smilie face.

Five is either different people undergoing a different test in Dreamland, or the same four in a different expirement, with different memories. Alternatively, the fifth picture could be one of the four here, and Richtofen could be playing in this test as the thief. i would say that this treatment is going under these people, (jfk, mcnamara, nixion and castro) but by the american goverment, as they have fallen into this, and the thief is a character that is most likly and virus, if this experiment was being controlled by computers... I didn't quite understand that. I doubt it is those people that are undergoing treatments, but rather different people given false memories. It's doubted this is entirely controlled by machines.

but manson is in a dream... remember, there was no body... also, then how would this explain "FIVE"? Five is either different people undergoing a different test in Dreamland, or the same four in a different expirement, with different memories. Alternatively, the fifth picture could be one of the four here, and Richtofen could be playing in this test as the thief.

crazycrusherx pointed out the telephone in Shi No Numa that states: "I know you're sleeping." I am now 100% positive that I caught the right story.

effects of using 115. the power is undeniable, but who can use such weapons without themselves turning.

I know. Right before I posted that I declared that many won't like it. I also hate those endings, but I'm sure 3arc has a way to end it (maybe bringing dream into reality using similar teleporters). Wait, what? I haven't finished the campaign. Can you please spoil this part you speak of for me?

That's what you are wanted to think. Those radios could eaily be stuff the characters heard subconsciously in RL about tests that Maxis was giving.

That's what Maxis programmed into them. It's probably some form of RL (real life) transition and only programmed into their head.

Yep, Nikolai and Dempsey. Oh, and at the beginning of the clip, Nikolai claims he will throw up and Richtofen claims it is a mere side effect, most likely caused by the tests.

Wait. I noticed these things a long time ago and am wondering how many you found. I'm up to six right now.

What makes you think Takeo is going to die? Why not Nikolai? Or even Dempsey since he is realizing this isn't entirely real?

This is a theory brought together by the Gamefaqs community. I have seen further by standing on the shoulders of giants. I didn't not find all the information that lead to this, but I put together as much as I could from other findings. "WARNING: WALL OF TEXT ALERT! POSSIBLE SPOILERS! PROCEED WITH CAUTION! Takeo, Nikolai, and Dempsey are all a a lab, in chairs similar to the dentist's chair. They are tests of a nerve agent, similar to Sarin. That pupil you see is actually one of theirs during the test of the nerve agent. The doctor seen walking back and forth is Maxis, however not as you think. The characters are in a comma and their memories prior to this have been erased and replaced. Maxis is performing a procedure that JD used in which he taps into their brainwaves to invoke a hallucination. He makes them hallucinate the zombies, the weapons, everything except for each other. Sam could be two things. She is either the main test itself, or each character's mind, fighting the nerve agent (her two sides indicate both sides of the fight). Maxis is the one giving the tests. He is not dead, nor a ghost. He is in reality 'feeding' the characters transmissions. His tests are nerve agent tests. Either on the characters or not. Test 6, on the dog, was in fact, the sixth test in which he decided to perform on a dog. The dog acted negatively to the effects, and was put down. However, the dog's barking 'broke' per se, into the minds of the characters, creating the Hellhounds. My total guess here is that Maxis is trying to make a nerve agent that gives him control over people. Test 26 was when he finally had control, but then the subject went into a spasm due to constriction of air flow (one affect of the nerve agent Sarin) and promptly died. Richtofen is still in darkness here. He could be many things. He could be a test subject (least likely). He could have the same treatment induced on him to control the subjects while they are in dreamland (naturally, without the memory loss). He could still be in the lab and could be the one actually feeding the dreamwaves to the characters, while Maxis observes. The missing character is either Maxis, as he is the only one giving the tests, save possible Richtofen. It could be YOU and YOU are one of the ones giving the tests. Who knows? Dempsey is the toughest of them all. Tough will, tough everything. That is how he is calling the player out. He is actually breaking through the nerve agent. Samantha's good side is winning, you could say. Characters and significance. Maxis: In charge of the tests. Giving them to each character. Richtofen: Maxis' asisstant. Either in dreamland or inducing the dreamland. Dempsey: American test subject. Breaking free from nerve agent being tested. Takeo: Japanese test subject. Nikolai: Russian test subject. Sam: Fight of mind against Nerve Agent. Time for the big proof. Y'all ready for this? The 3 film reels. "The test subjects have been undergoing treatment for five days with a little progress. I have been assured that given time, the programming will make (Static is heard)." "In the past weeks, we have made great strides in breaking through to their subconscious. I have had the projectionists make edits to a few. These changes have been very effective." "Subject two-six has had a breakthrough, he is responding to the treatments and following basic instructions, private outbursts have been greatly reduced, and given time we feel this treatment will be 100 percent effective in most cases." Oh yeh. You probably can all guess it by now. Maxis was treating the four with the nerve agent and tapping into their subconsciousness. He succeeded and made minor edits to see if it worked. These edits were the appearance changes to each of the characters. Mustache and wrinkles on Takeo, Dempsey's beard, dirt, and blood, and various other changes on the others. Hey, who remembers Der Riese's trailer? Remember who died? That was another alteration that was made to the character's minds. The two that died were actually pulled out of dreamland for further testing with the nerve agent and mind control. They were put back into the program and rewritten into the memory of the others." SOURCES “Experiments ongoing. “Observed a new effect “As a result of experiments. “Dr. Edward Richtofen as witness “Outlines as follows: “Tank Dempsey “Nikolai Belinski “Takeo Masaki “Subjects display unique “Side effects “Compared to previous “Subjects. “Baseline psyche remains “Intact, “But all specific memories “Have been lost. “Dr. Richtofen will continue “Observations." Posted by mariofan619 This brought me to conclude that it was all just a test. The Film reels show what has happened in the real life (the pupil and doctor pacing). "We have both listed Triorum and Sarin. Be wary of the Doctor. His involvement should be minimized if you want to make it out alive. We are unsure of how he achieved this time and place. Do what you must..." Posted by mariofan619 No clue what Triorum is, but I know that Sarin is a nerve agent. "1st) Find all three film reels and load them into the projector. A film loop plays with an eyeball/pupil. Get really close and you'll notice stuff like '115' and '935' You'll also see the letters 'JD' 2nd) Look at the chalkboard in the projection room. In the bottom left of the board is the name 'Delgado' So, like I said it's open to interpretation, but it seems to me like there's a J. Delgado that just might be our mystery portrait." Posted by ZaacNasty Jose Delgado was a scientist that used radios and electric signals to tap into people's brainwaves. Posts and lead-ups here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960189-c ... s/57247206 Page 11 and 12 are the location of this theory.

I don't know what Triorum is, but Sarin is a chemical nerve agent that is actually more dangerous than Nova 6. That might help ya out.