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Theory: Maybe Richtofen fixes up the Gersch device so it doesn't random teleport anymore and they use the Wunderwaffe to overload it (like in Der Riese) so they can travel into the future again. This is the only thing I can think of, but IF this theory were correct, the next question is where do the get a Wunderwaffe? Maybe there is more to Ascensions easter egg, I don't really see how though because no one has found anything else since the Death Machines. If there were another part to the easter egg, and you were to get the Wunderwaffe it would tie Ascension to CotD, and make 3arcs Ascension poster make alot more sense.

I like the George character. He adds a certain tension that I hadn't experienced since NDU. He can most definitely be annoying sometimes, but it gives this map flavor. I played it at a buddy's house on xbox, and I got a Death Machine on round 3, and unloaded the whole thing in him. Imagine my surprise when he didn't even flinch. I was freaking out. On the other hand, I think he should have fit into a more traditional boss role. Like appearing every so many rounds and increasing his health a little each time he shows up (instead of increasing the number of dogs/creepers/monkeys). He should also drop Max Ammo for sure. So, basically I like George, but I dislike the way 3arc implemented him.

Good point, I wasn't for sure or anything just brainstorming, and thats really all I could come up with. Also, 3arc seems to be getting a little lazy on the storyline side. The gameplay is great, but the story is kinda getting convoluted. I like how they leave clues but dang it, I want some solid answers from 3arc sometime soon. Oh, I just thought of something, maybe the rocket just malfunctioned, because we know Yuri was working on the Gersch device in secret after being transferred to Rocket Division, and before that his work was already lack luster. With his attention divided maybe he screwed up the rocket, or sabotaged it. If a rocket was to break apart to the orbit stage like this one, while still in the atmosphere, I would think it wouldn't have enough thrust and come crashing down.

Honestly, I see your point, but at the same time I wonder why they would go to all the trouble to put the old characters in anyway, just to give you a Wunderwaffe. Why not just put the gun in without the characters if it was for gameplay purposes? I wish 3arc would make the story more concrete tho, most of the whole zombies storyline is based in speculation. I want some answers 3arc! A dog only goes so long without food before it bites the hand that feeds it.

Considering the technology found around this place (Gersch Device), and with the timeline putting it somewhere around the Space Race, I'm sure that this place was Top-Secret. I'd say the differences in the rockets would be due to the fact that they were Prototypes, which also explains why they were sending monkeys into space. Someone/something had to test the rockets. lol Maybe the second rocket crashed because it was unmanned and needed input from ground control. Then, zombies attacked while it was in the launch process, and ground control was eaten. These are pretty simple answers to your questions, but sometimes those are the best ones.

I had the money to buy the hardened edition, as it wasn't that much more expensive than the regular version, but when I got to Gamestop all they had were regular and prestige. WTF do I need an RC car for? Not a damn thing. I feel like I simply got screwed, because I'm more than willing to give 3arc my money, and I figured they would come out on Playstation Network a couple months after, but still haven't. I also don't understand why people think they shouldn't release them. Come on guys, you've had 6 months of exclusivity, why can't everyone else get a crack at those maps?

In my opinion, the demonic voice is Samantha, because that voice says the names of the power-ups dropped by zombies. When playing as Richtofen sometimes he will say "A gift from Sam, but WHY?!" when you pick up a power-up.

Well Five has to take place in 1963, because the Cuban Missile Crisis already happened and Kennedy wasn't assassinated yet. You meet Clarke in the campaign in 68. So, why would he look older 5 years prior to you meeting him. And as far was we know you can only travel forward in time using teleporters not backwards. I think Clarke is not the thief. There is also no conclusive evidence to think Clarke was in Group 935 and the Thiefs bag has there logo on it. Also, on the Thiefs strap it has Illumanati writing that translates to "Living Dead". Not sure what this means because I also don't think he is a zombie. If we can find the identity of a person associated with Illumanati and Group 935 we may get closer to an answer. The only person I can think of with affiliations with both is Richtofen, and I really don't think its him. Hope that helps. It could also be late 1962, but most likely it's 1963. True.

Well Five has to take place in 1963, because the Cuban Missile Crisis already happened and Kennedy wasn't assassinated yet. You meet Clarke in the campaign in 68. So, why would he look older 5 years prior to you meeting him. And as far was we know you can only travel forward in time using teleporters not backwards. I think Clarke is not the thief. There is also no conclusive evidence to think Clarke was in Group 935 and the Thiefs bag has there logo on it. Also, on the Thiefs strap it has Illumanati writing that translates to "Living Dead". Not sure what this means because I also don't think he is a zombie. If we can find the identity of a person associated with Illumanati and Group 935 we may get closer to an answer. The only person I can think of with affiliations with both is Richtofen, and I really don't think its him. Hope that helps.

BEEP BEEP WRONG You're an idiot. Have you LISTENED to the radios in Der Riese? Guess what Guys? The zombies in Nazi Zombies are BASED OF FACTUAL, NAZI EXPERIMENTS The zombies were not made by people being bitten? They died, and WERE REANIMATED Do you know what REANIMATED means, SwarmxofxHate? It means they died first. God you're whiney The concept of 'reanimation' is within Nazi Zombies. Go listen TO ALL THE DER RIESE radios, BEFORE you enter this discussion Honestly, this is the first time you've said something that wasn't in you initial post. The Der Riese radios mention nothing of turning a dead body into a zombie. Also, were did all the other zombies come from if being bitten wasn't a way to be turned? Maxis only had so many test subjects. Fluffy was test subject 6. So how did 5 zombies become 1000's? Being bitten. Anyway, you haven't said anything about my teleporter debunk in an earlier post. How can you be sure that the Pentagon teleporter is even capable of time travel? Honestly though, you seem VERY passionate about Clarke being the Pentagon thief. We are all entitled to our opinions, I just don't share the same one. If you could prove Clarke was in the Illumanati and/or group 935 you would win me over to your side. As it stands I still think we don't know who he is for sure. In closing, do we really have to resort to name calling? That seems very immature. I'm just stating facts so we can ALL reach the truth, I thought that was what the forum was about.

Agreed with the last part, but every zombie media shares something if not everything with another piece of zombie media, if they didn't why would they bother to call it zombies? Also, the points, mystery box, etc. is in there because its a game. But to fully answer you question most of us are referencing other zombie media to explain why Anti Earth's theory has some holes in it. You cant deny the fact that Treyarch zombies share some similarities to George A. Romero's. The origin is a meteor and if you shoot there heads off they die. Anyway, we need to get back on subject. Anyone have any theories as to why it says Living Dead in Illumanati writing on the Thiefs strap? I posted my views up on another post, but no one seemed to care everyone is wanting to argue zombie symantics for some reason.

Honestly your theory could be right but this video only shows 3 film reels and 2 radios. The supposed 4th film reel in the meeting room with the rocket on this video, is the same as the first one he finds. This film has been edited to make it look like he found four when he only found 3. So still only 5 radios/film reels. More searching to be done if your theory is correct. UPDATE: I was listening to the Der Riese radios again and Fluffy, the mother of all Hellhounds, was test Subject 6! Maybe that's what it means.

Holy crap! In the level that has a square catwalk around it, those big zombies that take lots of damage is a zombie version of Sergei from the campaign mission Vorkuta. [brains] to you for posting this vid.

Well I understand what you mean now. Being bitten before death is not the ONLY way, just one. In CoD if you go through a teleporter you can become a zombie because of over-exposure to element 115, this is how the first zombies were made. So yeah I agree with Cpt. Stylin on that. We still need to get back on subject because HalfSwiss said that because its one of the flaws in Anti Earth's theory. i.e. Clarke didn't use a teleporter (as far as we know) and he couldn't be zombified after death because his brains are splattered all over Kowloon, and zombies don't eat necrotic flesh. I personally don't believe he is a zombie or Clarke for that matter.

Except there's nothing to suggest this in Nazi Zombies. The radio messages in Der Riese explain the zombies came from failed teleportation experiments. Sorry but yes there is something to suggest this. You shoot the head of a zombie off in the game and it dies, it may keep moving for a little bit but if you watch it, it will walk a little ways and die without you needing to do anymore damage.

I'm not sure if this was posted somewhere else in a different thread, but I decrypted the Illumanati writing on the Thief's strap and it says "Living Dead". I'm not sure what this means, and honestly I think it just opens more doors for questions because the Thief doesn't look like a zombie or act like one. (There isn't any decay to his skin and he steals guns not brains.) So is he taking your guns to study so he can combat the living dead and possibly mass produce the Ray Gun, Thunder Gun, Winters Howl, or any PaP'd gun? As he usually shows up when activating the Defconn switches which lead to the PaP'd room. Also from what I can tell of the Illumanati they like technology and like to think they do things to help mankind in general but have a shady way of doing things. Meaning he may take your guns and screw you over, but it could help people worldwide. Let me know what you guys think.

He was in some of the messages. When it talks about the ray gun they mention that H. Porter is currently designing his version of it, a better version, aka the PaP'd one. The PaP'd ray gun is the Porter X2, the messages/files talk of H. Porter making a modified version of the ray gun. That's as much as I know of his involvement though. No idea on history/back story of winters howl. No one seems too. lol Thats why I speculate but I didn't know that was the name of the PaP'd Ray gun. Now your theory makes more sense than mine. lol

Well Five has to take place in 63 before the JFK assassination and after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Because JFK is still alive and the talk about the Missile Crisis in the opening video. Apparently Kino der Toten takes place in 1950. (On the comic before Kino the teleporter dates go 1941 1943 1950.) So the dates add up to as if it is Richtofen he would be 13 years older. And yes I do mean the Richtofen you play as. This is just a Theory because there is really no solid answer as to who the Pentagon Thief is. the exact date kino is on is 1965-1969 as the Berliner Fernsehturm(the tower you can see from the alleyway) was constructed between 1965-1969 and in the map it is clearly under construction sorry but that might rule out richtofen but this time travle is confusing shit Well good point. I didn't think of that man. lol [brains] But honestly I'm not so sure that the Pentagon teleporters are capable of time travel. I mention why in an above post.

He was in some of the messages. When it talks about the ray gun they mention that H. Porter is currently designing his version of it, a better version, aka the PaP'd one. I don't think its the PaP'd version, but rather the Winters Howl. Which makes more sense because its only in Five.

This is correct. [brains] to you man. This actually means it may be Richtofen: 1. Part of group 935 2. Part of Illuminati 3. In Kino der Toten you see a film that has a scientist wearing a lab coat and it has E A R in the lower corner. Edward A. Richtofen? 4. Picture of Richtofen in Pentagon. Why is there a picture of a crazy Nazi/Illuminati in the Pentagon? I'm still not sure who it is for sure, but the more I learn the more Richtofen seems most likely. you mean richtofen that you play as? i supose five could be after the events of the other maps witch i havent considered befor a bit far feched but still a theory with proof. Well Five has to take place in 63 before the JFK assassination and after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Because JFK is still alive and the talk about the Missile Crisis in the opening video. Apparently Kino der Toten takes place in 1950. (On the comic before Kino the teleporter dates go 1941 1943 1950.) So the dates add up to as if it is Richtofen he would be 13 years older. And yes I do mean the Richtofen you play as. This is just a Theory because there is really no solid answer as to who the Pentagon Thief is.

This is correct. [brains] to you man. This actually means it may be Richtofen: 1. Part of group 935 2. Part of Illuminati 3. In Kino der Toten you see a film that has a scientist wearing a lab coat and it has E A R in the lower corner. Edward A. Richtofen? 4. Picture of Richtofen in Pentagon. Why is there a picture of a crazy Nazi/Illuminati in the Pentagon? I'm still not sure who it is for sure, but the more I learn the more Richtofen seems most likely.

Sorry for posting that link guys. I hadn't ever played Nac der Untoten. Thats why I asked you guys. Thx for the input.

After some thought I don't think its Clarke. This H. Porter thing could be what we are looking for, who is this H. Porter guy? I haven't heard anything about him.

Man, don't treat me like a child I read this entire tread. Different people keep giving you different views as to why your theory is flawed. And all you do is rehash the same things you've been saying since the thread was started. Basically you haven't proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is Clarke and that burden indeed falls to you. If you had anything other than circumstantial evidence you would have a firmer argument. Also you didn't have anything to say about my Teleporter Theories. You just dismissed what I had to say based on Clarke still has part of his brain, but what about the fact that he died before coming into contact with a zombie. (In your Theory.) And in the story of CoD Zombies you send a living person through a halfway working teleporter, you get a zombie, or a zombie bites a living person, you get a zombie. Zombies don't eat necrotic flesh because a dead person can't be turned into a zombie. This is also sited in The Zombie Survival Guide, page 5. Please post a argument that doesn't refer back to what you've already said, because at this point I've given you two intelligent reasons why your theory doesn't work. Now, the way this works is if you give me a good argument why my theories don't make sense and we try and abroach the TRUTH. Your dismissing what I'm saying because you want to believe your theory is TRUE which begs the question: Why did you post this THEORY if you didn't want other peoples opinion?

If Peter is dead, and the portrait is him, I have a clue. If your playing a Takeo and press the reload button he says "What once was, will be again!" So maybe we are just meant to think hes dead.