Xieon

I think the term glitch has a bad connotation with it. Doing the lander glitch, before they patch it, to explore the other areas of the map shouldn't be looked down upon. Glitching to gain rank or points is a different story. It is easy to render far away objects and make them look ok, for anyone who has no clipped, or done this glitch, you will notice that there are objects that are just image renders, you can walk through them, or in some cases you can fall through the bottom of the map. On the other hand there is a lot of stuff on this map that is a hard surface, there are fully rendered buildings. Assume this, Treyarch wanted to have another room but scraped it at last minute. They already added all the detail. Instead of completely removing everything they could just block the area off, why waste time say taking every piece of paper off the wall in case someone no clipped out there. Buildings like that were modelled for a reason other than aesthetics. Does that reason relate to the zombie story line with some ultra cool super amazing over 9000 Easter egg...probably not. Does it offer a deeper insight into the minds of the people designing the maps, and how the map works, gaming mechanics, etc, yes. If you were the guy who designed that building, would you bitch to people to get people banned that were exploring it, when it was most likely your boss who tossed the idea, or would you be flattered people can appreciate your work.

right near the mysterious building outside the ''map'' boundaries.

I would agree with the basis. The character has been fighting perhaps with themself, and by coming to the conclusion that they are in fact exactly the same as that of which they fear, they no longer fear it, but embrace it. Thus justifying all of their prior actions, as it simply could not be helped. It's akin to killing someone for killing someone else, realising in doing so you're the same as the inital killer, then psychotically snap and start killing other people in the same fashion as the person you killed in revenge did. Like I mentioned, it's also very much like Stockholm syndrome, which you could argue both Samantha and Mason have by proxy. It's also similar to the large number of people who are sexually abused who grow up to sexually abuse others.

No, didn't try that.

I was playing the other night, and we were trying the dm thing so I made sure to do as many things as possible just incase.

I think this song is being sung from the point of view from Samantha/the Bear. I think it confirms my belief that there is a power struggle going on between Samantha Maxis, and whatever is taken the symbolic form of the Teddy Bear, be it a different demonic entity, a spilt personality of Samantha, or Sam is simply schizophrenic after her ordeal. I say goodbye at night and morning hi I'm part of you what am I The only time that they are apart is when she's ''asleep'', when she goes to bed the other personality says goodnight, and is there to great here with hi in the morning. She cannot escape. I am what men love more than life Fear more than death or mortal strife What dead men have and rich require I'm what contented men desire This one wasn't that easy, maybe I'm just not thinking clearly. The only answer I can think of is power. The only thing men love more than life, is power over others. People are often more scared of being taken advantage of, and would rather die than be slaves. The dead cannot feel, thus they can acquire a power that surpasses those with feelings, and the rich are constantly striving for more and more money with it comes more and more power. Finally the last line is paradoxical, as content men would have no desires, and shows that regardless of how content a man may be, the grass is always greener as they say, and there will always be more that men want. these shackles they come with certain opportunities they won't let me get away but they show me we're the same Samantha has been given opportunities by her shackles, but they come at a price. With the power she has obtained, or one could argue accessed the power she already had, she has lost her life. She can never escape the death, but that allows her all the time she wants to mess with the characters/zombies. This line shows the break down of Samantha, after a power struggle has ensued for a while, she has become brainwashed, she begins to in a Stocklholm fashion begin to feel that she is in fact exactly the same as the crazed demonic side. Of course theres much more to this song, but you discuss There has been a discussion but apparently you never searched. Also its "Elena Siegman" and the song is called "Abracadaver" " as in cadaver being a dead body. Just pointing things out no trolling Typo's, I know the song title is a pun of abra kadabra, could be because I spelt it wrong I didn't notice it.

I'm not sure if you're talking about the same thing I think, but anyways if you go to the lander near the sickle, as you are running towards it from speed cola there is a railing on both sides of you, with an akwardly placed opening on the left side. Look out that opening and you will see a big ass building, with a door with a bright light over it, a set of stairs leading down from that door to a platform, then one more onto the ground. Additionally, if you are in the area under the rocket near the turret there is a door there, which if it was openable/not there, would lead you directly to the building. Personally I just feel like somethings up with that building

We tried shooting everything. Another theroy was that something happened after the dm, so we tried shooting everything, w/o any luck. There is a howling at the centrifuge however, it's not as loud as the other ones. It could just be from turning the speakers up too loud Umm, when I did this I heard no howling. :? As I have said, there is a howling, but it's not like the other ones. The other ones are much more pronounced, this one is almost hard to hear, but it's not imaginary. It could also be from my speakers, or just the ambient background noise in the game, the steam from one of the pipes. I in no way proclaim this howling to be the same, or even give any significance to it, I'm simply saying there is a wind blowing type noise in that room.

I'm surprised that I didn't see a thread about the meaning of this song, all the other ones had pretty clear meanings, and likewise I believe this one does too. I will put the entire song lyrics inside quotes, then post my analysis below I think this song is being sung from the point of view from Samantha/the Bear. I think it confirms my belief that there is a power struggle going on between Samantha Maxis, and whatever is taken the symbolic form of the Teddy Bear, be it a different demonic entity, a spilt personality of Samantha, or Sam is simply schizophrenic after her ordeal. I say goodbye at night and morning hi I'm part of you what am I The only time that they are apart is when she's ''asleep'', when she goes to bed the other personality says goodnight, and is there to great here with hi in the morning. She cannot escape. I am what men love more than life Fear more than death or mortal strife What dead men have and rich require I'm what contented men desire This one wasn't that easy, maybe I'm just not thinking clearly. The only answer I can think of is power. The only thing men love more than life, is power over others. People are often more scared of being taken advantage of, and would rather die than be slaves. The dead cannot feel, thus they can acquire a power that surpasses those with feelings, and the rich are constantly striving for more and more money with it comes more and more power. Finally the last line is paradoxical, as content men would have no desires, and shows that regardless of how content a man may be, the grass is always greener as they say, and there will always be more that men want. these shackles they come with certain opportunities they won't let me get away but they show me we're the same Samantha has been given opportunities by her shackles, but they come at a price. With the power she has obtained, or one could argue accessed the power she already had, she has lost her life. She can never escape the death, but that allows her all the time she wants to mess with the characters/zombies. This line shows the break down of Samantha, after a power struggle has ensued for a while, she has become brainwashed, she begins to in a Stocklholm fashion begin to feel that she is in fact exactly the same as the crazed demonic side. Of course theres much more to this song, but you discuss

We tried shooting everything. Another theroy was that something happened after the dm, so we tried shooting everything, w/o any luck. There is a howling at the centrifuge however, it's not as loud as the other ones. It could just be from turning the speakers up too loud

My capture card doesn't work, but last night I tried several things. One of them involved us trying the black hole w/o the dolls, and it does in fact say ''I can see the outline, it's there, but it still needs more power'' then one of the characters says something tank ''o so you want more power now, we didn't give you enough'' or something like that richtoven ''more power, I like ze way you think'' also, when we did finally activate the death machine, we had a person who had the zues cannon and the dolls, I had an upgraded hk, another person had the upgraded hk, and one had the upgraded raygun. We didn't have a cross bow, or two rayguns. It worked. My theory is this, when you throw the black hole on the orb it creates a counter, which requires a certain amount of damage to activate the death machine. The reason those weapons are used is because there is no double tap, and you can inflict the fastest amount of damage with them, however, I have seen people with speed cola doing it with mustang and sally, and other upgraded guns. I find it unlikely that there would be a middle trigger. It seems to be a simple if statement if damage greater or equal to x give death machines else say need more power

last night I tried going to the mystery box with the guns, and also searched the whole centrifuge room with nothing extra found.

From memory the exact quote is "Richtofen, agh, i don't like him, i think i remember meeting him before Shi No Numa, then again i can't remember much at all..." Also, the theory of a glass dome was your idea, which you then disproved.... I know, I did that on purpose. If it were possible to be on the moon looking the way it was, I described what conditions would have to be met, then I showed how they weren't possible.

If you want to get a team going I'll join in and help do it. I know how to do all the steps, and have done it, so we can bang it out real quick. Then we can go explore and try to find the next step if you'd like. GT XIEON1

It's either steel or carbon fiber, but due to the gravity changes on the moon glass is actually stronger than one of the before mentioned. There are some who believe that there are glass structures on the moon, and in some pictures you can see what looks like latticework. So if you were on the moon under a giant bubble then you could see the sky clearly and not see the glass, it's the Earth's atmosphere that causes glass to be seen as see-through and not invisible. However, how does the rocket take off and the landers crash back down, this disproves the point that there could be a glass bubble over the moon base, and you are clearly outside, so you would all be dead. There are also fire's not caused by torches that would have no way to burn. Random side note, as Dempsey using the pack a punch he said 'I don't like that Richtoven guy, I remember meeting him before Shi No Numa, ah, actually I can't remember anything'

Personally I think that something has to do with the stampin up room, and the pipes. If you go over to the corner of the rubble, and look into the room that has a hole in the wall and all the computers, you can hear a ringing type noise. It's odd that you get the DM's in the swamp, right next to the computer room.

I think that there should be a sticky where it's just running pick up games. The teammate finder forum is not used like it should. There are a ton of people on here playing, but not using the finder, and using that forum is pretty much pointless. The amount of work the site does is amazing, then you look at that forum and wonder how are they doing it. I purpose that we set up a sticky for ascension, and it's the pickup game thread. You post when you want to play hey i'm on right now looking to play, here's my gt. That way the thread should be fluid, and keep moving, as people come on and want to play, find games, and your game ended then last game just ended, other players had to leave, made it to 30, looking to keep playing. It is very hard to find a good team just randomly searching, and the team-mate finder function isn't efficient. If it was a life system like gamebattles implemented matches could be set up in minutes if the payers were on. I suspect that there are people on now who want to play and not using the system.

Basically it's a huge disappointment. Sadly, the only joy I get in my sad life lately has come from Zombies, and this was a major let down. Everything is a major let down, Ascention is a metaphor for my life, Ascend from hell into the "higher" levels of hell, Dante's Inferno for those who don't get the reference

I hope to have a large complex map, that has puzzle like features that are not impossible to figure out, but are dynamic. So each game you're doing slightly different things. Ascention SUCKS to me, its boring as hell, and the stupid "easter egg" should be an achievement, not an "easter egg". I'm sorry, but this map is horrible.

Looks like he just found a glitch, nothing exciting. UIgh, Im becoming more disappointed with ascention, it kind of sucks

The code you guys keep saying is this: level.passkey = array( "l", "u", "n", "a" ); level.passkey_progress = 0; level.secret1 = array( "h", "i", "t", "s", "a", "m" ); level.secret1_progress = 0; level.secret2 = array( "h", "y", "e", "n", "a" ); level.secret2_progress = 0; But what language. It should look like this {level.passkey = array( "l", "u", "n", "a" ); level.passkey_progress = 0; attempt = 0; while level.passkey =0; { if attempt =0 && level.passkey = array("l"); #do nothing if attempt =1 && level.passkey = array("l","u"); #do nothing if attempt =2 && level.passkey = array("l","u","n"); #do nothing if attempt =3 && level.passkey = array("l","u","n",a"); #do nothing else attempt = 0 while level.passkey =/ "l","u","n"a" level.passkey = 1; } Ok the above code is how it would look if it was simple, but it;s calling function groups. There's a function called level. So far the only commands of that function we know are passkey, secret1, and secret2, We need to see the raw text of the level function of the code, not simply a part of code implementing some aspects of the level code. There could be a ton of other things hidden inside of level, I'll show an example level.passkey = array(l,u,n,a) (now it will send the array luna to the level function) not inside the level function it might say int ultrasecret = 0; level{ passkey(array) { node.activate4() #this will now activate node #4 (just guessing on node number) ultrasecret = ultrasecret +1; if ultrasecret = 1000; finalegg.complete(1); } } I hope that made sense to you guys, there can be global variables, and functions within functions. Just knowing that if you spell out luna it sends an array luna to the function level doesn't do us any good. Hell, level might not even use strings (pseudocode, I'm tired) level.passkey = luna passkey(array) { convert luna to a number if that number > 100 continue else unlock node 4 } See what I mean, we need the actual function level. C++ or Java and I can do it, or if someone can tell me how to get it? I have readers/compilers for every major language and saved the download onto a usb hard drive, but where can I find the code to explore?

Zombies is actually the movie inception. They are so many layers deep that so far the entire story has taken place in 1 second on the real world.

I make this argument all the time, I have some really good posts. Sam just wants revenge, NOT Evil. The bear on the other hand is evil. Sam, bullet to the head for closure. Bear, hang someone upside down, cut out their organs, feed them to themself, slit their wrists, and watch their blood drain. See the difference?

Yeah I've not been able to get anything from DOD. I mean, I can never login. All we know is a username (is it legit? I'm having trouble insuring the legitimacy of usernames like this one and the Der Riese usernames). Meanwhile everybody is so wrapped up in Ascension and getting Double XP from MP that nobody's bothering to use the CIA-DS. I didn't even get to enjoy the double xp weekend Anyways, there should be an update to the terminal with ascention now out, I'll see if I can pull it up on my pc.

this isn't mine,, but something like this?