Shooter

That's another definite possibility. The logo does look like some sort of explosion in the background of the bullets. I do wonder though if that is something you might be able to "build" as well. Different types of ammunition and things like that. Really, now that we have these retrievable items and buildables throughout the world, it's possible that some of the nicked perks could have been replaced with an item that does the same job. Damn. I can't wait to get my hands all over TranZit.

I'm sorry but... Awww, thanks! Hahaha I'm sorry but I couldn't resist. Welcome Gretchen and thanks for finally coming out of the shadows and into the light. Sounds like you have the passion for zombies that we all share, you should like it here. Plus you're coming into what should be the most thrilling season of zombies yet. Enjoy your stay! "Yes, Let's."

Oh yeah, you mean Candolier, another cut perk found in the PC files. It's another idea that's floated around here for quite some time. We're definitely on the right track. It's got to be an increase with your ammo somehow. Both those perks were ultimately cut because they would be too much of an impact on the core gameplay of classic zombies and would have simply made it too easy. But seeing how this is story mode and not survival mode, the possibilties are endless with what it could be.

Amm-o-Matic Cola. http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/view ... 49#p194451

First let me commend you for your post. I can tell you spent alot of time thinking over all of this and examining everything, and it shows in your post. I think you should dip your foot into the storyline more! Anywho, this is all just my opinion on the matter. Maxis was simply a man hell bent on revenge. Richtofen had betrayed him, took his little girl away, and was presumably involved directly with his death. Maxis' intentions we're never bad. Group 935 was formed by Maxis for the sole reason to improve the human condition. He used the Nazi party for funding, all the while never actually supplying them. It was his brainchild, and Maxis' intentions were always good. Until the day Richtofen betrayed him and Sam, and sent him to (presumably) Shangri La. After that point Maxis had changed. When he is teleported to Griffin Station afterwards and is told to get Samantha out of the pyramid, he snaps, and tells Samantha to kill them all. It's possible that something at Shangri La affected his behavior like the voices did to Richtofen, but I'm inclined to believe he was literally going mad with revenge and hatred for Richtofen after the betrayal. Not to mention there was already hostility between the two from all the MDT testing being done. Maxis was frustrated that the teleportation testing was unsuccessful, unbeknownst to him that Richtofen was sabotaging the test (Remember at this point Ed had already been teleporting supplies to Griffin Station and knew how to successfully teleport). To sum up, Maxis was and is not an evil man. He was simply a man pushed too far by Richtofen, and he wanted his revenge. So what about the evil laugh on Moon? Well like NinjaNick stated, the unused Moon quote points to Maxis' true intentions behind the bombing. So why did they replace the quote? Well you know Treyarch, they love to keep us guessing. In the Behind the Design interview with the devs, they stated they wanted to leave zombie fans with an apex or an ending, they wanted to really get people wondering what's next. That is why I believe they removed the original quote and replaced it with Maxis' cynical laugh. To keep the fans on their toes and to really keep everyone guessing. *at 9:20 in the video http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episod ... --zombies- I do agree, this is a recording. I believe this is the one Maxis quote from Moon that was a recording, and here's why: In the message, Maxis states he needs to be free. Maxis had set up the message beforehand had Richtofen been able to get into the device. We know Maxis was in Aether at that point, so he must've been trapped by Richtofen within Aether. Maxis was prepared for this, and had a message ready that could lead to his release. After we play Sam Says, the security system is overriden, Maxis is released, and he gains control of the station. I've been saying it for 6 months. Maxis' goal was never to blow up the Earth or send 115 filled rockets, but to target specific areas of Earth that will wipeout a significant amount of the zombies. My best guess would be that America, Germany, and Russia were the targets, as they were the main areas of zombie activity. The infestation dies out to an extent, but not all are kille and they quickly spread across the world once again, leading us to the events of BO2. It's possible that the rockets were filled with 115, but I could only see that as helping Richtofen, which Maxis wouldn't want. There's a link in my signature from an old thread regarding the quote. As for the orange/red tint in the sky after the explosion, I believe this was caused by partial destruction of Earth's atmosphere. This explains why the stars are much clearer to see, as our polluted atmosphere on Earth tends to blur and distort the image a bit. With those layers gone, the stars are now much clearer. The orange red tint we're seeing can also be explained by the lack of a full atmosphere. Much like at sunrise and sunset, the sun protrudes through more of our atmosphere, causing the redish tint we see. This is what's happening during the events of Black Ops 2. The sun is passing through more of our atmosphere than normal (since part of it was destroyed by the rockets), giving us the red tint we see in the trailers. Just my take on it. Alot of this ccan be supported by files, quotes, etc found throughout the games. Hope all this helps and remember it's just my opinion on it. And again good to see you theorizing bbobs! Shooter

Awesome to see you theorizing bbobs! I know youve been here for awhile, is this one of your first theories or have I just overlooked your previous ones? I'll offer my full opinion when I get home from work in a few hours. Keep em coming bbobs!

Totally agree. But it's just gonna be up to us as the user to avoid visiting the site after release. It's a guarantee you'll see spoilers if you come on here, so it's in your best interest to avoid CoDz if you want to discover everything yourself. I'll probably avoid the site for the first couple days as I get my bearings straight.

Cool story.

Hey, I remember you! How you ask? Tacos Haha seriously. Good to have you back! See you around.

But.. but.. why? :| I hope they don't reveal too much Zombies wise. I was looking forward to peeing my pants on Tuesday. I could have just watched leaked gameplay if I wanted a preview at this point. It's literally 5 days away. I don't want previews, I just want to get my hands on it. Oh well, we'll see what tomorrow holds. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/03/ ... ack-ops-ii Good catch deathb4di2h0nor

Agree with MMX, the true fans can hold on just a tad bit longer. 6 days people! :roll:

2 posts and 5 days since he offically joined and already a donator. I like this guy.

Domination, Demolition, Deathmatch.

Agreed. I've lost all interest in this to be honest. Just doesn't seem like there any point to it lol.

Haha well next time I happen to be playing SL I'll check it out. So you're saying the player poops out the monkeys, right? :lol:

I guess it's just hard for us to believe the monkeys are flyin out of the characters butts. We know better than to feed the trolls around here. I suggest you provide some sort of video evidence for such a bold claim, otherwise just keep trolling along.

You have to request them again after the site crashed a month or two ago. Either PM a staff member or make your requests here: http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/view ... 55#p213127

Damn impressive. Very well done and accurate. You should post more.

^ Yup. Looks like it says "Atomic" in a script font.

Note: The storyline has changed drastically since W@W. "The Illuminati will never get their hands on me again." - Richtofen. Kino Der Toten, after picking up a Raygun. I'm just going to say it, the Illumnati is no longer apart of the story at this point. Notice how there are zero references to the Illumnati in any of the BO maps? You could say the Eye of Providence on Ascension is proof, but even that can be interpreted multiple ways as the Eye of Providence has many meanings. Satan could still be a possibility, but even saying he's connected to the story in BO is a stretch. We've gone from a story in W@W based on the Illuminati, Hell, Peter etc, to a much different story in BO based on Aether, Vril, Casimir, and Richtofen's Grand Scheme. Treyarch has gone in another direction with the story from the W@W days. When it comes to their quotes in regards to the overall storyline, they must be taken with a grain of salt IMO. Ok, now I swear I'm done. Hope there's no feelings hurt here :?

Welcome to CoDz CrazyTrain! And that's a well written strategy guide there! Proper formatting is an essential part of a good strategy guide in my opinion, and in that aspect it's clear you excel. You will be of great use to us with the arrival of Black Ops 2. Looking forward to seeing more from you! Shooter

I'm just going to leave it at this as we just seem to be going in circles. This is not an attack on your theories Alpha, your work over the past years speaks for itself and you shouldn't feel the need to defend your ideas if that's what your intentions are. To put it simply, I know you know your shit. But the point is this: Facts are facts. They are undeniable the truth, and these are simply not that. I mean just look at how off topic we've got from the original question of who created the pack-a-punch. Facts do not need such a long, drawn-out explanation, theories do. [tab][/tab]It's like the whole "Was Maxis shot in the last Moon radio?". There's plenty of support to say he was, but there's nothing that says it for sure, so we can never call it fact. Unless something is found that shows undeniable he was the one that was shot at, we will never call it a fact. The same applies here unfortunately. Facts are undeniable.

I never even considered how useful that Theater mode is gonna be for us storyline guys. The ability to take pictures or videos showing exactly what's going on is gonna be extremely helpful. Damn, that's gonna be awesome. But yes, what Mix said.

Welcome my friend. It seems all the lurkers are finally coming out of the shadows, and just in the nick of time. You should feel right at home here. Welcome to the team! And wow thanks for the compliments man! The thread took a solid two months just to work out the details, so these types of compliments really make it worth it. I plan on doing another update to add more fine details, pictures, and videos. I also plan on continuing the story once we get our hands on BO2. Look forward to updates in the near future. See you around Shooter