Shooter

I'm sorry these are a bit late guys. My work's schedule's been a bit hectic lately, plus I've got another thread I started before I finished this (of course lol.) Below are the transcripts of all important quotes from the characters in Mob of the Dead. Below that you will find my analysis of some of the quotes. Thanks guys! Enjoy! Brutus Al Arlington Finn O'Leary Billy Handsome Sal DeLuca Analysis Al has caught on to the repeating cycles, while the other three are just beginning to catch on. “We’ve done this before, over and over again. Like we’re stuck in some loop.” - Al “That’s what we did last time” - Al “Just like last time” - Al "Tell me, what did we do yesterday? Give me one detail about yesterday. Maybe Billy got himself another psych exam. Maybe Finn didn’t spend half his day on the can. Just give me one specific detail about yesterday. Anything!” - Al “Did we just die? Back here?” - Finn “If it wasn’t us, who built the plane?” - Finn I'm sure you've all realized this while playing Mob of the Dead. Al's first line when entering their lifeless bodies at Alcatraz hinted at it, and the rest of the quotes made it very clear. Al knew about the cycles because he had been in Purgatory longer than the other three, and began to make reminders to himself in his journal about it. Al was repeating the cycle before the other three. “We all saw the same thing. We saw our bodies right before we climbed back in them. Let me explain something to you right off the bat. Whatever you do, whatever you say, whatever crazy shit you think up to rationalize this crazy shit, remember one thing: it won't fucking matter.” - Al “Hey Weasel, I never saw you shoot this good til all this shit started.” - Finn “Yeah, what about that? How come you know more than the rest of us?” - Finn Think back to Stanley Ferguson's recording of what originally happened that night at Alcatraz. The Weasel was killed on the roof on New Year's Eve 1933. But the other three weren't sent to the electric chair until 19 days later. Surely Al had experienced some sort of Purgatory for the days leading up to the arrival. This wasn't the first time I had been curious about that elevator shaft though. When I played Mob of the Dead, I'd notice the hole that goes down below the elevator appears to be a very deep hole. Which begged the question of what the personnel at Alcatraz was using it for in the first place. Just seemed a bit odd. A hole to Hell...in Alcatraz! Al knows the zombies are empty souls “You don’t move because you have to, so what’s the real reason?” “Whatever you once were, it’s not what you are now” “Were you ever human?” Finn, Billy, and Sal's quotes as the announcer/controller. “Carpenter! Double Points! Max Ammo! Insta Kill! Fire Sale! Kaboom!” - Finn “Max Ammo! Kaboom! Fire Sale! Double Points! Insta Kill! Carpenter!” - Billy “Fire Sale, Insta Kill, Max Ammo, Kaboom, Double Points, Carpenter.” - Sal The developing team was most likely just playing around with preliminary ideas and decided to record these quotes, but they are interesting nonetheless. Something else I found interesting about this is that Al does not have quotes as the announcer, unlike the other three. If Treyarch developers were just recording these in case they wanted to use them later, why not have Joe Pantoliano (Al's voice actor) voice the quotes as well. Perhaps there's more to this. Perhaps not. Al knew about the Bludergat, and that it was needed to complete the easter egg “When we’re all done, we need to get the Blundergat.” Al wasn't as evil as the other three. "I don't even know why I'm here. I'm not like the others. Not like em at all. Sal, Handsome, Finn, they're all stone cold killers. Those bastards are evil to the core. So why me? Why am I here!? Why dammit!?" - Al “You killed before Finn, but it was always business.” - Finn "This is all just a game, isn't it? A big, twisted, fucked up game. What am I supposed to do? Come to some great realization about my life? Throw myself to the ground and beg for forgiveness? Well I got news for you, it's not gonna happen! - Finn “You’re not on my kill list, at least not yet!” - Billy “I think I understand. "Am I stuck here until I see the error of my ways?! Until I repent? Well you're gonna have to wait a long time. Because I don't regret a damn thing!" - Billy "Sure, I’ve done bad things in my life. I’ve lied, stolen, and killed to get what I want. You know what though, I don’t regret a damn thing. If I had my time over, I’d do it all again. Every fucking part of it. So universe, wanna know what I think? I think you can go fuck yourself.” “You’re turning into a real killer Weasel.” - Billy This was a common theme I noticed before listening to the quotes while playing on the map, and a listen through of the quotes made it even clearer in my eyes. After listening to the quotes, it's apparent Al is not this hardcore mobster he wants people to think he is. And that's what it really is, just an act. Unlike the other three, Al has no quotes regarding to killing people in the past. [tab][/tab]In fact, I believe the only person Al has actually killed was Ferguson, in order to break the cycle of past events. And unlike Al, the other three do not regret what they have done. They seem to accept their fate as if they knew they deserved it, while Al questions the whole reason he's there. Billy also has an interesting quote in the audio files about how Al is "turning into a real killer", hinting that Al's misdemeanor before this event wasn't quiet as violent as the one we see in game. Al killing Stanley Ferguson started the cycle in Mob of the Dead. “You brought us here! You killed the guard! You started this whole thing! Just what did you do to us?” - Billy “I wanna know the truth. I wanna know who's behind this. I wanna know what they want. Is it cause of the guard we shanked? What was so special about him? What made him different? I can't change the past, I wish I could but I just can't." - Finn As depicted in the opening cutscene for MotD, the prison changes to it's hellish form after Ferguson is killed by Al. We know from the interactive audios during the EE that Ferguson wasn't originally killed, so when he is killed in this new cycle, things change drastically. Why exactly the prison changes to it's hellish state is yet to be seen, but it's clear to me that Ferguson's death plays a large role in Al's journey to redemption. Al knew about the perk drinks. “Are you sure this is safe to drink Weasel?” - Billy Just like the buildable equipment, Blundergat, and others, Al knew about the perk drinks found throughout the prison. It's possible he knew of them because of his experience in Purgatory before the other three arrived. Brutus = Ferguson. “I had a life. A wife and son” “9:30, guard begins his rounds” “I was always nice to you” “Lights out. I said no talking!” “Don’t try to run Billy” “Arliiinnngton!” “Your lucks run out Finn!” “SAALLLLLLL!” For anyone that ever doubted it, the quotes all but confirmed it. Mainly the first two quotes are what seal the deal. Brutus was a guard at Alcatraz, worked the 9:30 guard shift, knew all four of the mobsters, and most importantly had a wife and son. Ferguson states in the opening cutscene he had a six year old son. MUCH more analysis to come. I just wanted to get the actual scripts out for anyone interested. Stay tuned. Shooter

Like others stated, it's a metophor for for what Maxis is trying to accomplish. He's attempting to create global polarization devices that will block out Richtofen's energy, much like a beaver's dam will block the water's flow.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't traps not count towards your kills in BO maps as well? I think MotD is probably one of the fastest maps to reach Round 100 on. Awesome job on this BSZombie! That's one hell of an accomplishment! Isn't there some sort of badass medal you can get for that?

The audio clips of Stanley Ferguson telling the story of what originally happened to the mobsters that night state that it was New Year's Eve 1933. The three killed Weasel on the roof on New Years Eve of 1933, and were executed 19 days later on January 19, 1934. But it really doesn't help pinpoint a date for the map, and I doubt we'll ever find one. Thus far, we have audio clips from Ferguson that say January 1934, a sign in the cafeteria on the map that says 1932, a bridge that has a construction date of 1936, and a water tower dating to 1941. The dates won't add up, in my opinion. But I agree with the very last part of your post, the map exists outside the realm of time.

Whatever the standard setting is. 3 or 4 or whatever. Use the same for multiplayer. Seems to suit me the best, just personal preference I guess.

Wow, that's an awesome little find there Rissole! I always love when we find these connections to mainstream movies. Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, and now Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Pretty interesting stuff!

I still see Paris as quite the possibility. Considering the way Treyarch has really listened to it's fans, and that there are these "towers" involved in BOII, I could see Paris as still being possible. Wouldn't make for a bad map either if you ask me. ;)

Wow, you seem like a pretty dedicated zombies fanatic MysteryBox! What took you so long to join!? It's good to have you aboard the CoDz team! If you have any questions feel free to ask someone, we're all pretty friendly around here. +subscribed

There's nothing special on the zombies camo. If you see something that would provide previously unknown information, you'd have to be more specific. But no, there doesn't appear to be anything special here.

Well hello NinjaLogan! I already know your name around the forum, so I guess I'll just say thanks for making the introduction. I too was guilty of being on this site for awhile before making an introduction haha. And be sure to get yourself the intro medal if you want it! ;)

Welcome Randy! Well actually, since you're been here for almost 2 years new, that seems like the wrong thing to say. Let's just go with it's nice to meet you! Thanks for making an introduction and sticking around the site for so long. I hope to see more of your name around the forums!

Good researching here Speedo! You definitely know how to find those connections back to the storyline. Yes, exactly. They are taking concepts from many different religions and cultures and mixing them into zombies. Ever seen that show Ancient Aliens? About how much of religion and culture actually came from extraterrestrials who visited Earth in ancient times? I kind of look at the power that Richtofen has as an ancient power or entity of sorts, that future religions and cultures (like the Egyptians mentioned in this OP) would base their beliefs on. Kinda the same concept.

- spawn - warden's office - showers - near mp5 - near gondola (up) - infirmary - near juggernog - circular stairway - inside gate on docks Yes, that is 9 switches total in the map. Wow, I never realized that. Thanks for posting that Infest. Al had to of wrote the message in his diary for a reason. Perhaps he was just referencing that there were 9 different locations to down yourself, or maybe there really is more to this. Seems like more than a coincidence. Good stuff here Zen!

Great stuff here PINNAZ. Also, the fact that "Brutus" was a character from Dante's Inferno who was sent to the lowest level of Hell to face Lucifer made the name Brutus even more fitting of a name for the boss character. Well, at least we know where the name comes from now. Great digging here my friend! :)

Gotta say, I really like this too my friend. Those are two great connections you've made. I like that you addressed the zombies with knives in them on MotD. I've yet to hear anything about that, you got to be the first to touch on it. Well researched and well formatted, just like I like it. Thanks for posting this! I look forward to seeing more theories from you Eric!

As a fellow storyline guy myself, let me be the first to welcome you to CoDz, the premier site of all things Call of Duty Zombies related. Being a storyline guy, you should find yourself right at home. Also, we've got some of the best strategy guys here that write phenomenal guides if you're ever feeling the need to reach Round 100. Basically, we have everything you'd ever need. Welcome home Pyrrhics! I look forward to seeing your posts in the future. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. We don't bite....much.

Holy freakbag, now that's love for Zombies right there! We're glad to have you back in the mix Spartica! :)

Damn another friggin trailer! They only seem to be getting better too. This has got to be my favorite one. Thanks for posting this!

Huge thanks for getting these out Liam. That was damn fast! These quotes really help confirm some things. Full scripts and analysis incoming. BTW Brutus, or should I say Ferguson, quotes are creepy as hell. Wouldn't want to listen to those alone in the dark! ;)

The similarities are quite intriguing, aren't they? Hell has always been an implied thing in various aspects of zombies, but only until now has it been completely confirmed. We have to look at the bigger picture, and I'm glad you're seeing it as well. Aether and Hell, 115 zombies and demonic zombies. It's all one in the same, in a way. And it all leads back to one main common idea: who's in charge and what do they want? Make sure to get that thread out soon with your analysis. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for it. I tend to agree with this. There's really no use in speculating on a specific date for the map since it takes place in Purgatory. If it really had to have a date, I'd just say 1930's as a general timeframe. I don't wanna say either way quite yet. As of right now, I have to go with the fact that he is dead as there's nothing provided about what occurred after the break in the cycle. I'm hoping the quotes from the PC guys might reveal what happened with him. However, if he does end up coming out of this alive, he would have to serve some sort of higher purpose. There would have to be a reason for being saved from his personal hell and being brought back to life. And it seems quite fitting indeed my old friend. Great stuff as always Mix. I sadly have not had the time to reading about the story of Icarus, but it seems like I'll really have to get around to reading up on it. Thanks for your insight as always my friend.

Wow, thank you for all the awesome comments and compliments guys! Can't say how great it is to get this type of feedback. THANK YOU to all! Let me apologize for not getting back to your guys' questions yesterday. To be honest, I've actually been recovering from a pretty bad cold the last week or so that I've been trying to get over. I actually fought through it the other night to get this thread out to you guys. Quite frankly, I'm not very happy with the end. I feel like I might have rushed the end a bit, but hey this is still an unfinished thread. Today is the first day I started feeling like I'm getting better, so ill get back to all your guys questions tonight when I get home. There's a few other unfinished threads I need to get out as well, so hopefully I can get one of them put tonight as well. Thanks again guys! And keep the questions and comments coming!

Eventually the zombies and Brutuses will kill the three besides Weasel. Try and fight as you may, you will run out of ammo and screw up somewhere, and then you will die. So, there is always an ending. The game progresses normally, but you are not allowed to go back to Alcatraz. My friends and I tried it, but I got sick of it and Remington'd all three of them after about 10 minutes on the bridge. So, uh, eventually, "Weasel" won't be able to keep his hands off of the controller... heh, heh. Wow, thanks for posting this bagel! That provided a bit more insight on what's going on story wise as we travel to the Golden Gate for the last time. Helps confirm something a bit more for me. Thanks again!

Oh you sneaky sneaky man! I would totally fall for that one. The ol' egg toss with a frag grenade was always a staple of my BO days when playing with friends.

Ray gun with an ACOG....because I can. Could be a really good implementation so long as they isn't make it too overpowering.

This. Although I've yet to come across an article that states a different zombies team created Mob of the Dead, I'm under the strong impression Jimmy and the guys weren't behind it. Like Flammen already said, JZ and the guys were nowhere to be found for any of the interviews for MotD. Also, Jimmy is normally all over Twitter when a map is announced and released. And this far, Jimmy has not had a single tweet in regards to the map. Seems like it was another team responsible for Mob of the Dead, and they sure did one hell of a job.