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I'm surprised that 5 ranked so high, it was one of my favorite maps from Blops1. Hard but, a lot of fun...

LOL, No I am a Multi Disciplined Campground Killer. Axes, Throwing knives, Glass bottles, Spearguns, Hell I've even used a Birthday Party Noisemaker on one occasion. The Machete (I call her Stabby BTW) is more like a security blanket, It reminds me of mommy and happier times. I would not want to dull it on the dense underbelly of the Sub Forums.

I'm with MMX, some of these sub-sub forums could be axed...

From the looks of the menus and screenshots It seems more influenced by Mw3's survival/Spec ops. Pre-Game options Actual persistent Rank Objective based rather than solely wave based (IE: Go here, drill this, destroy that) etc...

I won't link due to the no leak policy, but Aliens have been confirmed

No I hated Tranzit as well, To me that map was the start of the tedium that would infect the rest of BO2 zombie maps. I got to the mid 30's on that map and pretty much never played again. Here's the thing, when Ghosts comes out, I'll be trading in BO2. I've never done that before. I still have Blops1 and plan on keeping it, but I don't think I'll have much use for BO2. When my friends and I play "zombies" it's not even a question of what game to play. we haven't really played any BO2 maps since about a week after Origins release It's a sad state of affairs when I'm looking forward to an IW game to satiate my Co-Op needs... :| But since I don't want to be all Negative I will say I really liked the addition of the Grief Gamemode.

Popularity? I am not sure where you are getting that from but the majority of people I know hate Origins, and most of what I have read online is negative. Even people who like the map would admit that despite enjoying it every now and again it WAS a letdown of epic proportions. I absolutely hate all the tasks in Origins and will be disgusted if they continue the trend in the next game, as will many others. MotD got the same kind of heat for being repetitive due to the tasks required within the game. Origins just took the piss with it. Also, aside from the 3 or 4 actual puzzle steps in the Origins EE, all the rest of it was just killing zombies here, killing zombies there, killing them here again etc. To answer your main question though... YES! These maps do drift away from "classic" zombies, but that is not a bad thing if done right. MotD did it right to an extent. Origins failed at it spectacularly. How can we go from a map like Moon, where we do the EE every game because it enhances the experience to a map like Origins where we do the EE once and NEVER want to do it again!? Sums it up nicely.. I have been a zombie slayer since W@W and Origins and MOTD were without a doubt the worst maps of the 3 seasons of Zombies. some of you guys know me and also know I'm not one to get negative, but Origins really just put me off something fierce. Hence Why I haven't really posted since it's release. I thought I would always be Zombie fan as that has been my main game for the last 5 years, but with the new direction of MOTD and Origins, I really could care less. How do you take one of the most simple and addictive gamemodes ever created and make it a tedious bore? The answer is Origins. And to all that are saying that Origins is a "Fan Favorite" IDK where you get this but everybody I've talked to over Live hates the map...

What if Sams mum was a Vryl-ya called Samantha Oh oh I like it! What if Sams mom was a Vryl-ya named Samantha stuck in an alternate reality where she had a daughter named Sam with a puppy named fluffy :shock: Don't forget the part where everybody time traveled, and RUVA, Lucifer's second cousin was the Demonic announcer. :roll:

Sweet I've wanted this for a while, hopefully it last longer than the green mist... But isn't this Vulture Aid? No, the mist was random and involuntary to a degree. This would be initiated by the player. A sort of reverse monkey bomb if you will. As for the "zombie blood" I'd like to see some type of tactical use item as described above, rather than a random power up.

From June 16th in another post by Me: Sweet I've wanted this for a while, hopefully it last longer than the green mist...

No no no! You mistook "excited" for "obnoxious". I wasn't trying to rub it in or anything at all. and yes, totally true that there was no markings of the cross on that first photo we got. sorry if my posts seemed obnoxious. Lol no prob man There was supposed to be a after the 3 dots in my last sentence. I didn't really think you were being obnoxious

My post was made before any images of Red and White cross's were available. Now I would agree with you that they are Templars. No need to be obnoxious about it... :mrgreen:

The Chainmail zombie is a Teutonic Knight. It does not have any of the markings of a Templar. No Red/White Cross, Crooked X, or any Christian markings. Teutonic Knights are inherently linked with German Lore, they were used as examples of Aryan superiority in Nazi propaganda. Hitler even had some portraits of himself depicted as a Teutonic Knight. Also the Teutonic's were much more active in Europe than the Templars. They fought prolonged campaigns against Prussia, Lithuania and Poland. It just seems they fit more in this context.

I think the O4 only say "Haven't we been here before" on the maps they were actually in from W@W. So there was some consideration for the original W@W continuity. I could be wrong though it's been about 2 months since I've played Blops1

Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers.

Well we know that at the very least he serves them. The quote was from the W@W version of Der Reise, but I think it goes like this: "Ah' a gift from the illuminati masters" Also there's this: "Who is doing all of the hammering, is it the Masons?" (When getting carpenter) Furthermore the notes directing Rich to kill Maxis are written in "Illuminate" glyphs

After Re-Reading the letter I agree with you. It does look more like Fortuitous... I was in agreement with you before the edit, now you're just rubbing it in my face

....Or Prove Torturous.

A few thoughts: 1. Whomever wrote the first letter will be revealed as the blacked out portraits in Kino and Five. My bet is Maxis, but Peter would be a possibility too. (I think we will get a few "classic" Blops maps that will show these portraits) 2. I think the O4 are originally from the early 1900's and Time traveled to the W@W era where they had their memories wiped and made to believe they were of that time. 3. The group mentioned could pre-date 935 (illuminati, Vhryl society, Mason's etc..) 4. Scuttlebutt is Military Jargon and yes I could see Dempsey saying it was very common slang for AMERICAN and British troops in the 1st World War as was Fritz. 5. I think the end of this map will lead to the reintroduction of the "Classic's". (I.E; The ending of this map's egg will teleport us to Veruckt/Nacht and the time loop will begin) 6. Maxis and Richtofen were at one time close friends, Samantha calls him "Uncle Eddy", I've never had a colleague's child call me Uncle, But my Kids call my oldest closest Friend "Uncle". There had to be some relationship there beyond them being colleagues. 7. The Barbarian's refers to the Germans. The Germanic tribes were the "Barbarians" throughout the classical(Roman)era and beyond until Christianity got a foothold in the region. 8. The 04 were always Patriots of their respective Countries. This is so ingrained with them that it is the only carry over into their new lives/Personalities. 9. I really dislike whomever at 3ARC got in bed with PTG. It really has put me off on the whole aspect of any future zombies titles. I'd rather support a Dev that doesn't support lying, bullying, stealing, leaking and everything else that they get away with...

I think the Mongoloid is actually smarter than we give him credit for. When you give him candy by a workbench he thoughtfully studies the blue-prints and then sets off to complete it for you. Just the way he looks over the blueprints makes me think there's more going on upstairs than we think

Endgame=Crappy Tom Clancy game Defined!!!

So, you don't like them? So what, a lot of people do. I think you are in a small minority here...

^^^ this is the best solution. Easy, Peasy, Japanesy. They could even go further and just make the paralyzer not give out stink period. Just like some other WW's that don't allow drops. I don't see that being very hard either.

Actually I think 3Arc included some scenes from Fan map ideas The Pyramids of Giza have been mention on this forum multiple times The flooded city was also an idea floating around (pun intended )here in relation to a flooded Atlanta theory... Ah TrollARCH

To OP good post.. Even if some of it was "appropriated" from one of my posts. It's cool no worries One fact you neglected to mention is the map location is given as "Primary Plates" see plates being plural. Why would it be plural if it is strictly in Angola. Angola does not border any other continents. So why would plates be plural? Also one of the last images of the cut scene is what looks like two land masses reaching towards each other over a huge chasm. This is what it would look like if two full fledged continents began to merge. To the people saying the world map does not depict this, the one on Die Rise shows earth completely torn apart, like as in big separate chunks. Perhaps mending the Rift caused the earth to pull itself back together and some of the plates were moved around in the process.