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I KNOW it is Hudson. As I've said Hudson makes a far more interesting character and has a far better possible role than a secondary character. Mason is just seems was like the rest of his SOG team, just got in the wrong place in the wrong time... I like where they're going with this :)

Well I think that eclipse is an early hint to the storyline of the game. Now eclipses normally have to do with the moon obscuring the sun's light or vice versa. But there's another definition of eclipse: Funny that I heard a while back about BO2 being about Hudson, Mason and Weaver being disavowed.

I think the '75 note is a back to the future refrence where the doctor leaves himself a note Only problem with that is it says 'Beware the doctor' in the message.

I think the '75 note is a back to the future refrence where the doctor leaves himself a note Only problem with that is it says 'Beware the doctor' in the message.

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I am in complete agreement with all of these reforms. It would be a shame if none of these reforms were implemented in the next game. One thing I hope they do especially with the easter eggs, is make there be a lot of little ones like on Der Riese again.

I think that the date has more relevance that we think. Rissole in one of your loading screen pictures from the iOS there's the man walking into the portal with the dates floating around and the year 1964 is one of them.

I think that the date has more relevance that we think. Rissole in one of your loading screen pictures from the iOS there's the man walking into the portal with the dates floating around and the year 1964 is one of them.

Excellent finds here Mix. To add to this stuff I noticed that many of the terminal documents ended with 'BYEMAN TALENT KEYHOLE CONTROL SYSTEMS JOINTLY' which is found on the bottom of documents with data on or recovered from Blackbirds, which was the nickname for the stealth planes the U2 or SR71. Also, I noticed that with the whole dragon thing, ties back into all of that stuff about satan = the serpent. As well as the dragon's at Shangri La we see like on the shrink ray.

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It was a standard issue at the time, and they would have been using it there. And also, Dempsey may have heard some talk between McNamara/Nixon and Castro about how to compensate for this now that he knows. It's not like they cannot talk either, the characters exchange quotes all the time while we play as them.

It was a standard issue at the time, and they would have been using it there. And also, Dempsey may have heard some talk between McNamara/Nixon and Castro about how to compensate for this now that he knows. It's not like they cannot talk either, the characters exchange quotes all the time while we play as them.

Incredible finds! If we analyze it well enough we may be able to look into trey arch's goals in creating the map and uncover some parts of the story, like why they needed a 'Disposal Room'...

When I noticed that I was always the guy reviving or surviving and when I went down it wasn't often or everyone else soon followed :lol:

I don't know why but I found that really funny and couldn't stop laughing for some reason! @MMX I can see how the second note might possibly look like 35, however I still see 75 in both. I agree that it may not contradict chronology; like Kino might be 1967, and time-traveler may have dropped that note there (far-fetched, but possible). I guess that could still work with this situation abit, where it's 1967, but Tank might think it's 1964. @BlindBusDriver Nice colours man! It's a good worked explanation, but my problem is how would Dempsey know that? Unless Treyarch just did it deliberately and kinda broke the 4th wall by telling us facts Dempsey shouldn't know. What a confusing topic. If he is talking about Kino, than it would be first, possibly second (depends on their quotes towards the Thundergun in Ascension) time that Kino has been addressed in-game by the crew. Well you see, I found a way that might explain it. Our characters knew about Five. Remember, we can hear the phones going off and when we pick up we hear the Five characters fighting the undead. I think they may have heard a bit more from that than we do...

I don't know why but I found that really funny and couldn't stop laughing for some reason! @MMX I can see how the second note might possibly look like 35, however I still see 75 in both. I agree that it may not contradict chronology; like Kino might be 1967, and time-traveler may have dropped that note there (far-fetched, but possible). I guess that could still work with this situation abit, where it's 1967, but Tank might think it's 1964. @BlindBusDriver Nice colours man! It's a good worked explanation, but my problem is how would Dempsey know that? Unless Treyarch just did it deliberately and kinda broke the 4th wall by telling us facts Dempsey shouldn't know. What a confusing topic. If he is talking about Kino, than it would be first, possibly second (depends on their quotes towards the Thundergun in Ascension) time that Kino has been addressed in-game by the crew. Well you see, I found a way that might explain it. Our characters knew about Five. Remember, we can hear the phones going off and when we pick up we hear the Five characters fighting the undead. I think they may have heard a bit more from that than we do...

I disagree with you all about it's meaning I think it is a reference to Firing Range, or what was newly dubbed Quarantaine. They used M16s here to stop the outbreak in 1964. Let's look at Firing Range, first of all many references to the zombies all over, with the PaP flag,Tank Dempsey on the bullets, the doors, the Gateway to Hell, Quarantaine, bloody room, biohazard, etc. I think that it is supposed to be the American's way of letting the Cubans in on the research in exchange for them to keep quiet after Castro witnessed the events at the Pentagon... Also notice that the Helicopter outside the map is an UH-1 Huey Iroqouis 'Slick' with a Ace of Spades skull underneath, the exact same one that drops woods off in the mission SOG. So notice how the 1964 date falls just between Five in 1963 and SOG in 1965. Woods comes back looking like a mess wonder where he's been.... Just my spin on it.

I disagree with you all about it's meaning I think it is a reference to Firing Range, or what was newly dubbed Quarantaine. They used M16s here to stop the outbreak in 1964. Let's look at Firing Range, first of all many references to the zombies all over, with the PaP flag,Tank Dempsey on the bullets, the doors, the Gateway to Hell, Quarantaine, bloody room, biohazard, etc. I think that it is supposed to be the American's way of letting the Cubans in on the research in exchange for them to keep quiet after Castro witnessed the events at the Pentagon... Also notice that the Helicopter outside the map is an UH-1 Huey Iroqouis 'Slick' with a Ace of Spades skull underneath, the exact same one that drops woods off in the mission SOG. So notice how the 1964 date falls just between Five in 1963 and SOG in 1965. Woods comes back looking like a mess wonder where he's been.... Just my spin on it.

If they're making any map with a Ferris Wheel it better be Chernobyl.

My top 2: 1. Showing a friend how to get into a glitch on top of the Fishing Hut on SHi No Numa by getting out of the map. But I knew a fall through spot and called him over but he didn't know and fell inside. Then I had him wait to shoot through the door til they were all spawned, and opened it through the roof and let them all in on him. 2. My friend got downed. Didn't buy back jug yet. And I waited for him to get his PaP crossbow which he was waiting to get for the whole game. Told him I'd show him how to get through without dying and dolphin dived through to deceive him. He followed, got downed, and we tea bagged him as he died and then rage quit.

agreeed i say lazyness cause when u play as sarah michelle gellar and u dive she grunts JUST like the men Well what were they going to do for that sound? Ask her to grunt for them so they'd have a sound for her dolphin dive? :lol:

Oh yes, Firing Range is very closely linked to zombies! Check out AlphaSnakes post in the Zombie Asylum about the Satanic involvement in zombies, and all his links to Firing Range, a lot of my theories are based from his -Jolteon Well where supposedly is Mel's hole? Because I know Firing Range is supposed to be located somewhere in Cuba.

Source:http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1661.html There is also a map of Japanese controlled area (which includes Manchuria, however that does not say their empire, so again, not japan.) If we ever come to an agreement, we should also an announce it here Who cares what America thinks? It's not our territory, it doesn't matter who we thought controlled it over half a century ago. Fact is, it was apart of the Japanese Empire. Which Takeo, called Japan. And if that is the problem you have with the theories, then what is yours? Because that would also proclaim Matuzz's New Guinea theory as false because it was part of conquered Japanese Territory too. Also, in terms of Tunguska, Manchuria is the only one which passes the common sense test of being able to be reached by the damn rock fragments, since it is directly on the Russian border. Now can we take this argument back to Tac's thread about Manchuria? This is about Matuzz's New Guinea's theory, not 'whether Manchuria would be called Japan'

I hate to be a Debbie-Downer here but it's not Peter. Richtofen talks about how the Marine Recon team went in to save Dempsey and were killed, and that he suspects Peter and Yena are spies too. Since he recognizes them both separately, I think it's rather safe to assume he wasn't. The terminal document signed by Pernell also backs this because it is about the Marine team going in to get them.

You're probably right, it is probably bunch of bull crap But in terms of zombes, there are just a few connections that I could make, and I love conspiracy theories (probably how I got so into zombies) and couldn't resist doing all the research! I appreciate the brains from you both! -Jolteon I like how he found another hole exactly like it too And if a sheep gives birth to some seal-like creature after being lowered into a hole? Why how convenient there's nobody but him who's witnessed this nor' evidence But still though very good theory. I like the underground aliens idea. and lol that story reminded me off south park: Insheeption