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I'm not exactly saying that zombies will be the campaign. I think they might be the new weapon, they will be the new Nova6. Not the enemy, Do you kind of get what I'm saying? I know it's a bit complex.

The Question of Black Ops 2: Zombies Campaign? Hello fellow users, I would like to bring up a major subject of Black Ops 2. Now one thing that the community has been hoping for, for a long time, is a zombies campaign. Many dismiss the idea because of how far fetched it is, but I have some proof that may change your mind. Zombies and campaign tie together, and they keep inching closer, and closer…and closer….. Now let’s begin. For starters, I’m going to show you how the Black Ops campaign and zombies are tied. Starting with the terminal: The Terminal has very strong mention and referencing to zombies. The most obvious and direct is the emails between Robert Oppenheimer and Vannevar Bush. They are two key members of MJ XII, documents of theirs can be found on campaign levels and the zombies map FIVE. Let’s look at their inboxes. So they are clearly discussing Verruckt, the Group 935 facility for tests with zombies. The OSS had agents there and sent in an extraction team once. Now in the midst of the Cold War, they are looking back over old CIA files about Verruckt and what happened. It is clear that they have also REVISITED the facility. Without returning, how could they have recovered limericks written by the team which is now dead? They also have a solid knowledge and files on Doctor Maxis, the leader of Group 935. They directly mention him, and his one of his projects, the Data Servant. Vannevar Bush has even been able to form an opinion on what he must have been like from this. Next evidence in the terminal, the Data Servant and Radio Recording Transcripts. You can view all the files on the site Terminal, it is accessible via the home page. Login: amazon Password: password I am going to only select certain files of the same type to make my points. Now the files from the data servant, don’t need explaining. But it’s the Data summary above. It says it is from the ‘Der Riese project Datenbedienster’, so they know of Maxis’ Data Servant project, and the Der Riese facility, remember that, I’ll get back to it. The other part I’d like to focus on, is where it says: Sample was acquired from CIA asset based out of Vozrozhdeniya in the Soviet Union. Where is Vozrovhdeniya? You might recognize it better as the location of Rebirth Island. The CIA was stealing these documents from an asset at Rebirth Island, perhaps it was Steiner, we already know they were planning to extract him. Now onto the next file Now for your sake I’ll let you know what the decoded parts mean. CWZGUTCT- Peter HVZJZQUZQTTYMPJMRTTQYM- Tank Dempsey REGXZSTJMGQGZZQWZFUPTWZGPNGXZRUEGZPJMGCTWZGCNGPNT- Signed, Cornelius Pernell So this is a direct CIA file which signs for the go of the Marine Recon team to extract Peter from Verruckt. And Tank Dempsey, as the leader of this operation. Once again backing that the zombies events tie into the campaign. Here is ONE of the Der Riese recordings, each contain a summary beforehand of those talking and where and what happened before. So we can draw from this that they know WHO Dr. Maxis is, his daughter, and Richtofen is. So once again confirming they have strong knowledge of Dr. Maxis, and the other scientists there, the facilities, and the experiments conducted. This document DIRECTLY links the Ascension Group and Steiner to Group 935 and the Wunderwaffe program, and to General Dragovich, the main antagonist of the Black Ops campaign. This also connects the events at Project Nova, as it directly names the ‘Olympus’ specops unit Dragovich led to extract Steiner, and MI6, who were those white guys that attacked you at the end. Here is the radio sent to Peter by his handler. It mentions Der Riese, the DG-2, Maxis, 115, just about everything they could know at the time from the spies. This is how much they’d learned about Maxis and Der Riese just back then. And in coordination with the above documents, it’s more strong evidence tying zombies and the campaign. The fact these are all accessible in a terminal that’s in the chair you’re in in the campaign, is just more to add. Now it’s time for some campaign intel. Photos courtesy of AlphaSnake Here is the Intel from Project Nova: Now you can clearly see in the first page, that it lists the projects of the Wunderwaffe program. Many of the first are real projects, the V2 rocket, the U-boats, Nuclear Energy Dpt., P1500 Landkruezer tanks, etc. But one mentioned on here that ties to Nazi Zombies, is Die Glocke. ‘anything from anti-gravity propulsion system to a time machine. The Flytrap, at Der Riese, is the test rig for the Nazi Bell, Die Glocke, in the anti-gravity propulsion system theory. But the other one, is a time machine. These are the teleporters. As we know from our characters and how the maps go, there are many leaps in time. This shows that the government has intel on these projects and is taking tabs on it, but as the file about Peter said, they have failed to fully recover and 935 projects. Once again tying Zombies and the Campaign together. WMD INTEL: This WMD intel is probably the most significant tie between campaign and zombies. It talks about Gorki Korolev, or GKM, the company in the campaign that of which supplied the NOVA6 to the sleeper cells in America. The leader, Pavel Gorki, was involved at the Der Riese massacre. And Lev Kravchenko’s cousin. In the middle paper, second paragraph, mentions Der Riese. Here’s one that’s rather infamous, Woods’ 115 tattoo: So now after all of that, it’s pretty clear that the campaign and zombies ARE in the SAME timeline AND storyline. We have Steiner linked to the Wunderwaffe program and Group 935, and Pavel Gorki who was at Der Riese and was Kravchenko’s cousin, who supplied NOVA6 to the sleeper agents in the campaign. The documents in the terminal of the CIA and OSS about their intel and sources there, just so much evidence it’s practically impossible to counter. So, now that I have shown you all the connections between the campaign and zombies, I’m going to explain how all of this works out. It goes way back, to the time when Richtofen began to build Griffin Station on the Moon. Richtofen, could not have pulled off such an operation alone. He needed help, and he used his connections and eventually amassed a large group of closely trusted scientists to work with him. Maxis was not very popular amongst many, receiving treatment from him similar to that Richtofen got, so they worked behind his back with Richtofen. One of the groups that went to work with him, was the Ascension Group. They were a Group of scientists, who’s projects were out of the range of their capabilities on earth, so they went to work with Richtofen with the Moon as their testing ground. The Ascension Group, wanted to work on Rocket Engines. Far more advanced than those Werner Von Braun was working on. They were working on the first 3 stage Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. After the fall of the base and Group 935, they fled back to Earth. Where a co-worker, Frederich Steiner sold them out to the Russians. In search of Nazi Scientists to held them win the Space Race, they took in these fleeing scientists to work in their rockets division. The rockets there were designing, were the R-7 family: This is the family of rockets which the Soyuz rocket belongs to, you might recognize it better here: or here So the Ascension Group STARTED on Moon using Griffin Station for their rocket engine research, When Steiner sold them out, they began to work for the Russians, we see their work at Baikonur, on the mission Executive Order and the Ascension map. The Americans, know about this, and cannot risk the soviets reaching the moon base first and they sabotage their rockets with the use of their best SOG team. Alex Mason, Gregory Weaver, Bowman, and Frank Woods. But Dragovich survives and Kravchenko escapes. But back to our story, as I mentioned with the intel above, the Russians were not the only ones busy with these secret experiments. In the summer of 47’, a UFO crashed in Roswell New Mexico. To investigate MJ XII, or Majestic 12, was formed. Scientists and High Government officials were put on the case of this and many other secrets projects. One of their first orders of business, was picking up the pieces that the OSS spies had left behind. After the failure to take Der Riese, they had to find other ways in. They traced the remnants of Peter McCay and his extraction team and their intel back to the Wittenau Sanitorium in Berlin, Germany. They found many little secrets in the old Asylum. The traps, the weapons, the dead zombies, etc. They even found the remnants of the extraction team they once sent in, an M1919 with limericks. It seems the Marines made quite the final stand here. After this, they took back everything for analysis. It was kept in the CIA archives until Dr. Kurt Blome came forward about another base. Doctor Kurt Blome, was an infamous Nazi scientist. His name is seen on a poster at Der Riese, and he is also mentioned in nearly every GKNOVA6 Document. He told them about another base buried deep in Berlin, Kino Der Toten. Kino Der Toten was filled with almost every bit of Group 935’s technology. The traps, the Nova crawlers, the ThunderGun, teleporters, 115 rocks from Tunguska, etc. A gold mine of technology, everything they could ever want of Group 935’s. It was all taken back to the Pentagon, with the Verruckt data now and researched and developed into new weapons and technology. But the most important thing recovered from this was NOT the physical weapons, it was the psychological ones. From Kino Der Toten and Verruckt, they recovered critical notes about the progress of their experiments and the effectiveness, entering them into the world of hypnosis. Group 935’s data was very influent, but they noticed that they were not able to fully control a mass of zombies at once. While the Americans, were not under any physical threat at the time unlike the Germans in the mid 40s, so they had plenty of time and resources. They had the CIA put MK ULTRA into effect. They kidnapped hundreds of American and Canadian citizens and took them back to safehouses, and were given LSD and tortured and experimented on to recover data on how the brain was effected by different treatment. They were following Maxis’ notes and belief that the Trust Barrier would be easier to break in the mind of the living rather than the undead. The GKNOVA drop and the terminal make many references to MK ULTRA: In what was once Verruckt in Berlin, was now a CIA safehouse. Renovated from the old bloodstained building it once was, it’s interior was not a classic CIA facility. A secret base for MK ULTRA-like and many other experiments in Germany. There are even documents from GKNOVA6 which are about IG Farben facilities being renovated into CIA buildings, who’s to say Verruckt might not be one of the renovated bases? So continuing on the subject of mind control, the Americans made many various progresses in their knowledge of it worked and how to do it, but they could not find a way to unleash it. While this was going on, the Russians at Vorkuta were also working on their own version of MK ULTRA. They were taking workers in the Gulags, American POWs, and did experiments on them. Dr. Frederich Steiner, was not only skilled in the chemical engineering field, he was also an expert in mind control, learning form the experiments Group 935 performed on the zombies. He ‘programmed’ the subjects’ minds to be able to decode and understand the number broadcasts into messages which they would obey. This was the whole basis of the campaign. The Russians did this to Mason, but Reznov wanted revenge on Dragovich, Kravchenko and Steiner, so he re-programmed Mason to kill them on the numbers’ commands, and was ultimately successful. For the Americans, they were not so successful, and even when they reached the Moon with the Saturn V and Apollo rockets, the team was decimated by zombies and were only able to bring back images of the pyramid at Griffin Station. So now the Americans, are in a slump. Their zombie control projects and experiments at Five failed, the Moon landing a catastrophe, and another breakout with Area 51(but this is at unknown time so exclude it for now.) And just dodging a Nova 6 attack from the Russians via Sleeper Cells. Also, outside of the map Hazard, some of Castro’s private estate, we see a Black Huey outside the gate. This is an American helicopter, not Cuban. I believe it was there to take Castro to his meeting at the Pentagon. On one of the bar tables, we see a hybrid skull like from Shangri La, I believe this all shows Castro has knowledge on the subject of 935’s experiments and such. Cuba is on one of the crates in the warehouse of the communist powers: Perhaps after his run ins at Five, he gave some secrets back to the Russians, or my better theory, worked a team project with the Americans to keep quiet. This, would be at Firing Range. Or what is now better known as Quarantiaine: As you all know, this MP was rumored as a zombies map for a LONG time, but it never came. I think it’s because everything we needed to know about it, was already there. And remember it was Cuban, because of the spelling of Quarantaine, and the shore, etc. It was a joint American-Cuban base for low level research, what happened is made clear from the details of the map. All the signs, the blood, the quarantine symbols, biohazard, etc. And bullets which read ‘Tank Dempsey’ on them It’s clear what happened here: Zombies And now this cuts back into the campaign. I think that Woods was working here. Remember that 115 tattoo he has at Baikonur? That’s gone later? I think it was because he got rid of it after the events at the Firing Range. Remember, there were 5 years passed between Baikonur and SOG. And the helicopter that drops Woods off on SOG at Khe Sahn, is the very same one that is outside Firing Range. Also note that the Zombie Screens show images of Firing Range/SOG. The timelines fit. And now moving onto my final point. After the campaign, the American’s projects have been ruined by outbreaks, but the Russians have been stopped. So both sides are in bad positions right now, each others plans have been ruined. But I think that the Russians have one more trick up their sleeves, one the Americans share now. The Zombies. Both know what damage they are capable of. And now with the knowledge of the numbers and mind control, both sides have the capability of unleashing the horde on each other. And I find it that this could easily be a major part of the next Black Ops Campaign at some point. We’ll see soon enough though ;)

Just to add besides Sputnik, the drawing also looks like the front side of the Casimir mechanism.

I am the same way, I cannot stand that screaming. I downloaded the songs, listened a little bit in, and not it still sits at 0 plays. I did not finish the song, nor would I imagine starting it ever again. lol on Moon, I decided to activate the song, and the second it started plain and I heard the "singing", I was like 'oh damn, I shouldn't have done that'. The new songs are to much like some sort of screamo death metal. I liked the One the best.

It could be a failed experiment of the governments. They were trying to link that tele porter to Moon. And he spawns in lightning , like the hellhounds. Perhaps he didn't go through to well...

No, FIVE and Ascension have not been confirmed. But don't sweat it, me and Tac are working on it. BTW Tac, shall we resume analyzing those clocks?

Spectre - Commando is nothing like RPK v HK21. The Commando has over double the ammo, double the damage, and fire pretty quickly itself at 750 rpm. The RPKs high rate of fire makes it preferable because it can kill faster that way, which is very important. And getting more shots quickly means you get points quicker and you have to spend less time turned around shooting your horde for points. I find that fire rate very useful. The low recoil helps too.

They got rock samples and did mild tests. We couldn't, and still cannot build a moon base. I don't even feel like explaining cause it's like 11pm here, but go look up some articles about colonizing the Moon. It's not like it would be easy. And once we beat the Russians, there was really nothing left to prove and Congress failed to see much more importance the missions. And rovers were discovered to be much easier and more effective to put into space. sorry if I'm being a downer guys, I'm just not a conspiracy theorist out of zombies.

Alright, we don't go back to the Moon because we have no reason to! We got what we could from it, there wasn't much point in sending more people. Plus it's expensive and dangerous. Look at Apollo 13, they almost died on the way to the Moon. And why do they have to debrief the guys before going? It's not because of monsters on the moon or anything, it's because NASA holds some of the most advanced tech in existence, and they need them to know that whatever information they know about the rockets or NASAs secret technologies, etc. they must keep to themselves. It's like if you want to join the CIA, they tell you before anything you cannot write a book or tell anyone about your work because it can put hundreds of people in danger. Also, we are in a national debt of trillions, moon landings are to expensive. Also, moon rovers are much cheaper and reliable than people in moon missions anyways. The whole point of putting a MAN on the moon was to show we are superior to Russia. Hope this clears this stuff up.

Those little pieces are not clouds, they are the earth's crust. The earth was hit. It wasn't destroyed, but very damaged. People have gone back to earth when they hit, and it does that flash like when you get EMPed and then it shakes a whole lot. But it doesn't change color til you go back again, because you're not supposed to be there when it happens and it glitches out.

you remind me of patient 13225, but you make less noise when I stick things in you...

well thats a glitchwe see chunks of the planet floating away after the explosion. they hit. not all, but much was destroyed.

ahh ok so that's what you're getting at. Yeah I find that very likely. I wonder who they were testing on... Could be a branch of MKULTRA in Germany. I think the CotD cutscene with Romero's monologue might relate, I saw those lights and stuff in stills I took.

Perhaps they recreated verruckt right on the site of it :twisted:

Yes, but why would they renovate backwards? Who changes things to make them less high tech? How do you renovate with technology and things that don't exist yet? I'm calling it, it's at the CIA/Pentagon building and they are recreating Verruckt for mind control experiments. They have the CIA lights, the CIA computers, Mason's chair, the CIA giant file cabinet, etc. Despite the similarities, one big difference could change the whole thing. They clearly just copied the floor and wall design from verruckt, that's why it's the same but all the details are different.

Well I cannot be convinced as long as there's the second room. How do we know they didn't just use the same wall and blood patterns as in Verruct? Notice the pentagon spacing lights? On Verruckt it was a single lamp or two. There's just a whole lot just eerily different.

they codename everything to something so far off you'd never even guess. Operation 'FISHBOWL', was launching nukes into the atmosphere and detonating them for testing. As for why we haven't gone back, do you realize how expensive and dangerous it is? The apollo program cost 130 billion dollars! Each Saturn V, the only viable moon rocket in existence, is 1.2 billion per each one. the astronomical field has a lot of money involved. Also, the moon landing is such a risk, remember how Apollo 13 almost died and they never touched down? Also the shuttle was a nice replacement. And after proving we could do it, moon rovers/drones were a much more cheaper, moral, and reliable alternative than people.

In Kino, when Richtofen enters the theater, he says: "They must have used this for controlling their minds." It is something extraordinarily close to that, and along with the other things mentioned, that is our reasoning that he was not aware of Kino, or at least what went on inside it. speaking of the quotes, how are those transcripts coming along Tac?

I just played verruckt, the blood stains aren't the same. They're a dragging stream, not a circular pool. It's just not the same, something is way out of place their, and most of it is that second room with the several head, bloody curtains, and computer.

I would just like to add to this that since this my theories about them have changed, but I still believe in the possibility that Five and Ascension are from alternate history's. Especially with the whole Kino after Five thing, when Five has relics from Kino, and the pilots mixed up on the chart. But hey, I've been wrong before about this stuff, right now it's probably best to continue with the belief that they DID happen in the main timeline, since little evidence supports otherwise. I myself am in agreement with that until more evidence proves otherwise.

Idk they love to copy and paste textures. I mean they didn't expect anyone to see that room. And there's a ton of stuff copied between other maps, and the campaign.

Well this leads to my second idea. I think that it perhaps might be a remake of Verruckt's experiments by the govt. I mean look, the chair is the same, the CIA doors are the same, it has the water cooler like in the CIA building during revelations, a 60s / 70s era computer, etc. And we know they found Verruckt too, it's in the emails. And they were very interested in their research with mind control and the brain.

In the video you posted, the guy flies through the door and there's another chair, and a computer terminal in the back corner. That certainly isn't a part of Verruckt.

The chair is different. There's an extra room. There's a film reel. fresh towels on the counter. I don't know but the whole thing just seems to have a lot of little things out of place. They could have just copied the textures. I mean that whole chair set up is the exact same as Mason is rigged to.

That's not verruckt. There is to much different for it to be so. The chair is different, there are doors that normal wouldn't be there, there's towels, second chair in the next room, etc. I think it's Kino' attempt to recreate the Verruckt test room.