The Clay Bird

please no buildable wonder weapon pleeeaaaase nooooo. but a prototype wunderwaffe preceding the DG-2 could be a cool idea,,,

Good point, so we are getting the Classic maps to play as well I think at some point we need to bring common sense into the discussion rather than spewing out "if one thing in the trailer is in the map, then everything in the trailer has to be in the map" that is what people are insinuating here and its just straight bollocks to think that way. the context of the old maps in the video was to accentuate that we are going back to the beginning before those maps (all of which we played as the O4 in by the way) . this news has everybody taking crazy pills or something

Finally, the voice of reason! lol the fact that we will be playing as the O4 is a humongous selling point for this map... treyarch likes to troll, but they are not completely stupid

oh my god are we really still discussing this? Fear Ruva fear tedds fear anus fear pizza this is all so stupid and it is very very obvious that the dlc and map names have no further meaning whatsoever

thanks for your opinion. while i disagree with some, i agree with others. The one that i REALLY disagree with and ill tell you why is the juggernog on grief cell block. have you played grief on buried yet? i havent been able to make it through a game yet. i play grief normally when i just dont have the time to play a full zombies game. well both grief rounds ive played were at round 21 when i had to quit because i had things i had to leave for. please, take jugg out of ALL the grief maps and it will show who has more skill, and will shorten the games and make it a LOT more fun

Yes, but I'll say its really only because i basically count any new zombies after WaW as a bonus. Didn't really expect it to continue after world at war because there hadn't been any precedent set. However being that we are now spoiled and get zombies with every treyarch release so far, I don't particularly like the direction they took it here in black ops 2. so much potential but i don't think it got executed quite right. The story was rather lack luster (with chance to redeem itself with origins) i personally do not like the addition of buildables and the bank and weapons locker. idk if i had to quantify it, my satisfaction level would be a 6 out of 10 :edited to fix spelling mistakes:

its because its 1917? i look a lot different than i did 5 years ago much less 30 lol

that isn't very ambiguous I think we are debating two different things. I'm 100% positive that Nikolai and the others will be in this map. Im just not sure we will be playing as them. i wouldn't bet my entire life savings on it, but close to it. That would be complete suicide for 3arc do that. I think they are smarter than that

not sure what that last part was about. but when it comes straight from the horses mouth it's 100% clear we will be playing as Tank, Nikolai, Takeo, and Eddy. they were in the origins trailer, they were specifically mentioned by name by treyarch in the press release which is official. No word play here just straight up facts We always think its straight up facts. then something happens and everyone cries saying that they lied to us. Then someone looks back and says that they just fooled us. It happens a lot. That news press says that we "encounter the return of the four original heroes." Encountering doesn't necessarily mean that we are going to play as them. We "encountered" richtofen and the others in call of the dead. And about the last part I said in my original post, the community manager said in an interview/press conference, "Fuck you last stand." This was refering to the last stand perk perk that EVERYBODY hates. He said this to gain supporters and then the game was released and yep, last stand was gone. But what do you know, they introduced final stand which was a death streak that was arguably worse then the original last stand. haha i didn't ever see that vid about the last stand.... thats funny and yes final stand is terrible. makes sense why Vahn was so insistent on there being absolutely no sort of iteration of last/final stand at all in BO2... thank god lol but for the first part, they do say 4 original heroes but afterwards say and i quote that isn't very ambiguous

yeah thats been up since before the official press release... but yes based on treyarch's tweets it seems a trailer will be coming very soon

not sure what that last part was about. but when it comes straight from the horses mouth it's 100% clear we will be playing as Tank, Nikolai, Takeo, and Eddy. they were in the origins trailer, they were specifically mentioned by name by treyarch in the press release which is official. No word play here just straight up facts

well when they merge threads it sticks the posts from the locked thread into the one its merged into... so sometimes it results in posts being a bit out of place or what not. But yeah, unfortunately many of the zombie gamers which not coincidently includes a lot of younger players, don't quite grasp that video games are a business and the main mission of a business is to be profitable. If game companies didn't make money off of dlc, they would stop making it. Many, even some my age (27) have grown up with video games their whole life, especially younger ones who only know online gaming and next gen consoles are so used to the constant stream of new content for games that they feel they are entitled to it rather than it being a nice surprise or a privilege to get new content. Before i sound too "get off my lawn"ish i think we all need to take a step back and realize how lucky we are for all the hard work the zombies team puts in to the product, and for creating something so fun that it has become the prominent treyarch staple that it is

quick question. who was this toward? I hope it wasn't me because I never said anything bad about treyarch. that was merged in from another thread or something, there were several people prior to that post that were absolutely raging toward 3arc for screwing over the zombies fans because they "only" get one map (just like we have in 91% of treyarch map packs)

I understand why Zombies is getting the shaft this time. You really think 3arc and Activision care? They don't, all they want is money and COD is mainly centered around MP. It will get them the most money. They don't care for zombies one bit. I believe everybody needs to stop OVERREACTING. think of all the dlc packs for Treyarch Cod games... Waw had 3, black ops had 4, black ops 2 has 4. thats 11 dlc packs. How many of those dlc packs have been only zombies. 1. 1. again for emphasis, 1. the Cod franchise is and always will be built around the multiplayer. That will never change. By getting 4 mp maps and one zombies map, we are not getting the shaft, we are maintaining the status quo! I am extremely excited now after reading the press release, as the new wonderweapons and period specific arsenal and new perk etc have over taken my concern about the 1000 foot tall robot

Confirmed its the true original four, no Reznov no Mason

Enjoy MP for what it is.... a lag fest where people with horrible internet do good? A game where you go around the corner only to be killed by someone who on their screen you haven't gone around the corner, a game where you put bullets into someone, they turn around and kill you and once again on their screen you didn't shoot? How, how can you enjoy that garbage? because im not super serious about it and just enjoy playing games? if i dont enjoy it anymore, ill just stop playing it, not come to a internet forum and complain about how the game company has wronged me. i got MW3 and played it for a while, decided i didnt really like it so i sold it. Bought borderlands 2, played it for a while and had a lot of fun so i kept it. Its pretty simple really. I suggest if you hate zombies on black ops 2 so much, do what you ve been doing and play one of the games that you do like, or trade it in and find a different game that you enjoy. its sillt to continue doing something that you dont enjoy i dont enjoy enjoy eating broccoli. but you dont see me going to the internet broccoli forums and complain to the farmer who is growing the broccoli that he needs to do it different or that he has screwed me. i just dont eat the goddamn broccoli :edit: lets not continue this banter in this thread and get it back on topic. if you want to continue debating it thats fine but lets do it in PMs back to the topic of discussion, at this point I would take and all zombies DLC as a bonus, but expect to get new mp maps this time around. hopefully one more classic map redone like maybe array or maybe one of the WaW ones perhaps

Funny coming from someone who admits they play MP and yet turns a blind eye to ALL the whiny little freaks from there. Need I remind you of the death threats over a sniper nerf? You talk to anyone who has played since the beginning and you will quickly learn, not many of them like this new direction zombies has taken. There is no challenge anymore, its run to the bank, get your perks, spin the box or get weapon out of weapon locker and set up camp for the rounds. Its not zombies anymore, its some contorted version of zombies that is catering to the people who wouldn't make it past round 10 in the other games. There is something you are right about, there is VERY LITTLE I like about this game. The campaign was fun and I enjoyed it, played through it to see all the endings and then played through it again for fun. MP can be deleted off my disc for all I care, zombies as I stated either here or another thread, 2 maps I like other than that I don't play, I go back to BO1. I would go back to WaW but its filled with modded lobbies, so I stick to BO1. Thats exactly what I do... i dont listen to the whiny freaks. I quite like multiplayer i have a lot of friends from college that i play with and it allows me to stay connected with them even though we all live in different places now. I find it a lot easier to just enjoy the game for what it is, rather than bitch about all the things i want but didnt get.

Ok wow apparently you are deaf to some of the complaints. Here is a list. 1. They gave us 2/3 person leaderboards finally. However in order to set records for those leaderboards you have to jump through hoops via split screening, asking people to leave or waiting for a long butt time. 2. Ranking system that no one knows how to figure our and that people glitch to get to the highest rank just so people will "admire their shotguns". Zombies doesn't need a ranking system. 3. Unable to view the rounds of others in the lobby. You decide to play with randy mcscrandy and you can't see his round leaderboards, all you know is he is a skull rank. That tells you absolutely nothing. You could be playing with someone who has a high round of 5 because they died blindly spinning the box. 4. Maps are lackluster and overly complex. MOTD did it right as did Buried with the ability to build things where-ever. Tranzit, oh you want to build the jet gun, you gotta scavenge pieces around the map and then bring them back to town instead of a easier location like power where 3 of the 4 pieces are near or at. Die Rise there are only two buildables(?) so I guess I can't complain. 5. MOTD had the only shared buildable inventory. The other maps you have to pick up one piece at a time instead of being able to have them all at once, this is more of a inconvenience issue. 6. The one map that got stuff right, is also one of the easiest, MotD. Redeemer which is insta kill for god knows how long, shield, electric reload and the acid-gat = high round unless you have the intelligence of a rock. 7. Private matches were replaced with a useless custom game function which doesn't even save to your round leaderboards. 8. This is more of a personal thing but, MP was given in-game streaming. Why not zombies? Why is the ADHD side of the game gets the streaming function while the zombies gets left in the dark? Need I go on? you sound like treyarch for some reason owes you something. Its their game not yours. If you dont like the way the game plays, sell it. thats what i do with games i dont like. I think you are confusing "Treyarch wronging the almight zombies community" With "i'm a whiny complainer that doesnt like the game" :edit: to a second point, how many things that the community specifically asked for have been implemented? A TON!! We asked for a bunch of the stuff, and we've gotten a lot of it. Now has it always turned out to be a good idea? no. but we asked for it and they tried it. Your statement the Treyarch has wronged the zombie community sounds absolutely ludicrous

I wonder how they are going to introduce the new/original characters in the game. I mean again I've played with so many people on black ops 2 zombies that their only knowledge of richtofen and maxis is that they are some sort of gods speaking to us, somebody whose first zombies experience was with marlton, misty, russman, and stu are gonna be confused as hell! lol. i really dont know why they went the way they did this time around it is all very confounding

this exactly honestly i join a random game on buried and everyone hits the bank gets weapons out of the weapon storage and get perks all in round one, makes the game a lot less fun i personally dont use the bank or weapon storage, the easter eggs need to be like call of the dead solo and a easter egg that needs 2 3 or 4 people. i say that i truly miss that barebones kind of feel, having to save up for jugg and then crossing my fingers to get a decent weapon from the box things like that. zombies is broken to the point that its just one big shooting gallery get your guns and perks round 1 and shoot shoot zombies until round 30. i still play blops ii zombies from time to time but i hope origins takes us back to that style of gameplay we all love from blops1 and waw absolutely 100% agree

Black ops First Strike : 2/1/2011 black ops 2 Revolution: 1/29/2013 4 days earlier Black ops Escalation: 5/3/2011 Black ops 2 Uprising: 4/16/2013 17 days earlier Black ops Annihilation: 6/28/2011 Black Ops 2 Vengeance: 7/2/0213 5 days later Black ops Rezurrection: 8/23/2011 Black ops 2 DLC4 : 8/27/2013 (projected) 4 days later I dont think so man

I've played with randoms recently and i've without really noticing started to take a unofficial poll of sorts. with a relatively small sample size bear in mind, it seems that those who have told me they really really love the maps and the stuff in BO2 zombies are players whom this is their first experience with zombies. of those who played zombies on WaW and Black ops 1, the general impression is that they are... not disappointed id say, but less than impressed with the new zombeis maps. I think the problem is the whole gameplay has changed. with buildables and banks and weapon storage... the whole original zombies gameplay has been blown to smithereens. part of the challenge was saving up points to buy jugg, or hit the box, or buy a door. now I load up buried, and can have 4 perks, upgraded weapons and all doors opened before I even kill a single zombie. I hope that this Origins throws us back to original zombies, the way it was, the way that made it so wildly popular. Less easter egg focused, and more about surviving. Im not saying dont have an EE, but im saying have it more in the background as opposed to Maxis speaking directly to you whne the game starts saying "do my side quest"

Well all we have is a black and white picture cant tell how light or dark his hair is. still looks like a high and tight cut to me

The reznov comparison i can see, but Tank looks exactly the same to me.