Supernova Remnant

Lmao, clearly like the only map we aren't talking about lol funnnnnny guy ovaaaa heeeeeeeer

No worries bro. Do you think you could explain what you saying in more detail because I am not sure I fully understand your opening strategy. The reason I say don't take tramp parts is because if you pick up a key you have to drop your tramp part and if you drop the tramp part in that hallway then you can never get it back once you leave. In regard to this, Then, the group could return, when convenient, fling over to the hall and grab all four keys. It makes sense and is logical but everyone is always off doing their own thing and crawlers die and player 3 is dead, so he doesn't get one or whatever reason..I guess imo, the easiest and most convienient time to grab the keys is round 1 when everyone can grab one and everyone is together and cooperating. So which part do you not agree with..all players picking up the keys first before the tramp parts? And again...im not big on saving money...so saving 750 isnt a big deal to me...but getting the power ON for 750...that's nice. Do you disagree with not sending the elevator back up at rd 1? Would you disagree with this statement: The easiest way to turn on the power, build the tramp, and have a key, all in round one, is the method that i described in my original post. Would you disagree with that? If so, can you explain in detail an easier way to do all 3 of those in round 1?

Agreed....hopefully you don't need to worry about your friends quitting out though lol...this info was def kinda geared more towards when you are playing with randoms and don't want them to quit. But yea lol, def play with friends when you can.

You might not care about the keys in the same way that I don't care about the SQUIL...however.... The SQUIL sucks imo. But the keys are for EVERYBODY. The SQUIL is for one person. If you want that gun then you can go ahead and build it but I ain't building shit. That gun is of 0 importantance to me. Whereas being trapped in the power room at round 25 because the crawler died out and now I need an elevator to come immediately so I can get outta that room...and if I can help 3 of my teammates escape that sitution by making them pickup a key even if there is no value to the key unless there is an emergency and you need to reach a downed player above or below you or escape a certain area...that should matter to everyone. But the SQUIL is the dumbest gun ever imo and I wouldn't help anyone build it ever, because they shoot it at me and then I can't move and I get killed...yea that sounds greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I wouldn't help Jesus Christ build the SQUIL. Not kidding. I'd politely decline.

Hmm...maybe I didn't explain what I meant. The starting room and that hallway with the keys are indeed some of the worst spots to be in the entire map....and if you read carefully...you would notice that I said you leave the starting room immediately...as in...you spend no time there...just get in the elevator without anyone having any parts for the Tramp. Elevator drops to the bottom. Look on the floor for the 4 keys, each player simply grabs one and then jumps over the gap and goes to the power room. I never said anything about sending anyone back up in the elevator, in fact....i said DO NOT SEND ANYONE BACK UP IN THE ELEVATOR. So turn the power on. Ride elevator to the top. Get out. Run back to the room where you build the tramp. Ride the quick revive elevator back up to the starting area. Everyone picks up one part for the Tramp and drops their key. Build the tramp. Ride back upstairs on quick revive elevator and pickup your key. Play rest of game as your normally would. Please explain to me how that does not make sense or how that is not strategically intelligent to just have a key on you that you COULD use IF you found yourself in a situation where you needed to call an elevator immediately. I mean....i've spent half my life waiting around for those elevators to come at round 22 or something. Perhaps you are confused as to what I am saying you should do with the keys. They are for emergencies...like when the game might end if you don't get on an elevator right now emergency...that emergency might not come until round 23 or 35 or whatever....but at some point it will come...unless you know how to play forever in which case you are the best cod zombie player in the world. There is nothing in this strategy about flinging anyone anywhere...no flinging...it is simply a matter if turning power on in round 1 for 750 points, grabbing a key on your way because of convenience, and NOT SENDING the starting elevator or sending any players back up to the starting room via that elevator because later in the game at round 30....you might need another way out if you can't get into the power room after you jump over to the building with the ak74u...so i was merely pointing out A PURE FACT...that if you have no alternative...you can always fling yourself over to the hallway with the keys, quickly build the elevator, then have it take you back up to the starting area to escape death and stop the game from ending if you have already jumped over to the ak74u and cannot get into the power room for whatever reason...you can try this other option...but that option is only possible if you DO NOT send anyone back up in the elevator at the beginning of the match...what's the point of that???? It's a waste. It's round 1. Everyone can just go to the power room and go to the roof and get back to the starting room via the quick revive elevator so please explain to me what the point is of wasting the one time use of that elevator to send 3 other players back to the starting room at round 1 when they could just as easily walk there and not waste the 1 time escape elevator. You can use the elevator to escape at any round you want...preferably in the high rounds where you really don't wanna die....

This is just my 2 cents and my opinion is no greater than anyone else's. Wasn't even really expecting anyone to respond. Not that it really matters but for starters, I think you guys read the scenario incorrectly... Its round 28, you have a crawler, player 4 is dead, player 3 has juggernog and a m1911 starting pistol player 2 has no juggernog and no useable weapon or has a useable weapon but no ammo...the point is you are player 1: If you have 4 perks, 3 pack a punched guns, 0 downs, and enough money to easily buy all 4 perks again and re-pack-a-punch a third gun.....Do you hold a grenade and down yourself and let your teammates pick u up over and over so they can get the points they need to buy the proper equipment for the next round or do you keep silent and not mention that as a possibility and let them fend for themselves. When I read that,I come away thinking only player 4 is dead. And I wrote it. And I have read it multiple times trying to see if I made some dumb error or didn't use a word correctly and I can't come up with anything. Player 4- dead Player 3- Jug and starting pistol Player 2- No jug and...no useable weapon or has useable weapon but no ammo (and not a wall gun). Player 1- You. I don't know how much that really changes anything, as there are multiple scenario's we could come up with and debate the best/correct course of action. My main point was this though...I/YOU/WE don't want people to quit the game because it ruins the game for the players who did nothing wrong except play cod zombies with other people. Sometimes, we can prevent a player from quitting if we make the effort to get them "set back up" with juggernog and almost any reasonable gun. To people who think me downing myself with a grenade is dedication, they are wrong, the way I see it, I almost have no choice at all. To me, a player quitting the game has now become the equivilent of the game ending. You wanna avoid it at all costs. So if I need to down myself to give 2 other players money to get guns and jug....then I would be a fool not to because logically speaking, that gives my team more incentive to stay and not quit because they know I will get them set back up and it gives them a higher chance of living through the round because they have the proper equipment...and the alternative is that you do nothing...keep your 90k points...one of them or both of them die again....then one of both of them quit....and then where are you now????? Seriously fellas...at that point...where are you and your 90k points? You are nowhere. The game is now over and is going to save on whatever round that player left on. But um, good thing you have all those points to spend on NOTHING. Once you get all perks and pack a punch...there is nothing to do or buy in the game. It's not even fun after like round 25 because there is nothing to do at all...it's not like you can buy a chopper gunner for 45 seconds for 100k dollars.....THERE IS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONEY/POINTS lol....so if you can use them to get 2 other players jug and guns, you'd be a fool not to. IMO. lol. If you think a player is going to sit there from rounds 20-25, 25-30, 20-30, 20-40 or whatever combination you want, if you really think those players are going to sit there and watch your screen and watch you have fun for like 50 minutes, because they keep dying trying to grab jug and a gun, you are very very very naive and wrong. Extremely few players will do that. So if I keep letting them die and do nothing to help them, then I am fucking stupid and might as well send them an invitation to quit the game because that is precisely what is going to happen. Why Treyarch punishes players who have done nothing wrong...that I don't know. Why is there no stat for number of matches/games quit? That would be like, easily, easily, easily, easily times 1 billion the most important stat in the entire game. I don't care if you are new, I don't care if you don't talk much, don't care if you are freaking horrible at the game and do every single thing wrong, I only care...if you are gonna quit the game....don't care about your headshots, don't care about your kills, don't care about your super secret hiding places or your stupid glitches that take the fun out of the game because you can't get hit or die, I don't care if you can fly around the map, seriously, great, good for you, I only care if you are going to quit the game like a little schoolgirl...that is all I care about. What is "set back up" I personally....again I PERSONALLY....just me, my opinion, 1 man, not right or wrong as there is no right or wrong but to me...being "set up" means I have juggernog and basically almost any guy in the game except a small few...for example I think if you are dead and you come back to life and I get you juggernog and an AK74u, in my mind, that is being set up and that is fair.

"I did not know you spawned at the White player. I knew the White player attracted the most zombies (if all players were equally apart from each other and the zombies), but not this." Lol, that is not exactly accurate and I should clarify to avoid any confusion. You only spawn on the white player IF the white player is ALIVE. It goes White, Blue, Yellow, Green. That is the order from top to bottom, white being on top. "If you're the White player, take note of your power in the game. It can be the reason a game lasts long or ends short." That is certainly true and it can also be the reason your game saves to the leaderboard at a high round or a lower round because someone quit out because they kept dying. Those are the types of quitters that we can help.

Ok, first off, if someone is a quitter than they are a quitter and there is nothing you can do about it and your game is going to be ruined. Sorry. However, there is something you can do to help increase the chance that your game will not be ruined by someone quitting if you do one thing. Pay attention to what color the dead players are going to spawn on and then have that player be in the right place when the next round starts. Here is a common scenario: It's round 24, you are doing great, fewest downs, most points. But two of your teammates have been dying at the beginning of the last 2 rounds and are just quietly watching you play the game because they are dead and you think they might quit out. So you have to take charge and get them set back up by determining which living players screen the deceased players are going to spawn on. It goes: White Blue Yellow Green So whatever LIVING player is the highest color, that's who's screen your dead teammates are going to spawn on. And I don't mean highest scoring player...I literally mean the highest color in order of which color is on top/higher than the colors beneath it. If white is alive, dead players spawn on white no matter who else is alive. If white is dead, then all the players will spawn on blue's screen, if blue and white are dead, all players spawn on yellow's screen. And the only way to spawn on green's screen is for every other player to be dead except green. How does this help you? Well...if you are dead and waiting to come back...now you know which color player you need to ask to stand next to juggernog right as the next round starts and you come back to life so that you can get jug in the first 5 seconds of spawing back to life. And then you can help your own dead teammates and help them not quit by knowing what color player you need to ask to stand next to jug or a gun as the round starts...even just this effort alone is sometimes enough to get people not to quit...but eventually you are gonna have to get them fully set up again in order for them keep going. Remember kids, only you, can help prevent forest fires, No wait, I mean, quitting games, only you can help prevent quitting games....by umm, not quitting games. Ask yourself this question and see which side you fall on.... its round 28, you have a crawler, player 4 is dead, player 3 has juggernog and a m1911 starting pistol player 2 has no juggernog and no useable weapon or has a useable weapon but no ammo...the point is you are player 1: If you have 4 perks, 3 pack a punched guns, 0 downs, and enough money to easily buy all 4 perks again and re-pack-a-punch a third gun.....Do you hold a grenade and down yourself and let your teammates pick u up over and over so they can get the points they need to buy the proper equipment for the next round or do you keep silent and not mention that as a possibility and let them fend for themselves. I promise you the best zombie players are the least selfish and most helpful players.

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned but I have been running into a lot of players who are unaware of this. When the game starts, nobody pick up any trampoline parts and instead just get in the elevator. Take it down, get out and all 4 players get pickup a key off the floor, also works in solo mode. Do NOT send the elevator back up to the starting room. Jump over the gap, buy the door for 750 and turn on the power. Get back to the quick revive elevator and take it back up to the starting room and pick up your trampoline part and drop the key in it's place. Remeber the location of your piece. Build the trampoline as your normally would and when it's finished everyone goes back upstairs and gets their key and it's still round 1. This has a couple benefits. 1. Power on at round 1. 2. Everyone has a key JUST IN CASE they need to immediately call an elevator. 3. If you leave the STARTING ROOM ELEVATOR at the bottom of the elevator shaft, it can also be used as a one time escape pod if you find that you cannot escape through the power room and are otherwise going to die, you can always try this method...Preferably you already have a trampoline down in the location that shoots you across to the long hallway where you find all the keys on the floor, if you don't, then put one there, it will fling you across, you QUICKLY build the part for the elevator and run because it is on a timer, then it takes you back up to the starting room instead of dying. Not saying it's easy, just saying it's there if you want it.

"I bet when the next Map comes out, we'll get answers to questions(But no doubt more questions.) Everything will be right as rain. And we can say Fuck You to all those Riddle Posting, Fake Ass Trolls." You sweet sweet sweet innocent man with a heart of gold, my friend, fellow zombie killer, when the next Map comes out, the speculation will continue to be just as rampant. How could I ever know that information??? Because from Kino der toten and the famous ladder on the stage or the Giant Monster on the roof that you fight, Ascension, with the secret door, The AK47 being in the game, the ppsh on the wall, getting underneath the lighthouse and the ice in Call of the Dead, I mean unfortunately I could go on for 5 for minutes of typing if you really back me up against a wall. And now we have the night bus, the train station, the secret bus stop, using the Jet gun to get to the secret area, removing the fog from the map, CDC Suits, Aliens abducting you in the fields and taking you to a secret a room in their spaceship, getting hit 100 times in each area to get perma or persistent jug, I mean, can I just stop here or shall I run down the list for every unconfirmed persistent or perma perk that people STILL TO THIS VERY SECOND CLAIM TO HAVE, but yet every single time they have no video evidence or pics or proof of course. Why? Bc it didn't happen. But I really can go on forever with the BS people try and put out there for Zombies, and people take the bait every time and when the next map comes out the trolling will be just as bad as it is right now unless we create this section. We need a section where we fight back and NOBODY can get a post put in this one special section where it is just for confirmed information and questions and answers in a row, ESPECIALLY when the community is undecided on the topic, we need to let people know the community doesn't know the answer and the rest is speculation man. I just wanna read my information, I'm not the least bit interested in disputing or reading about disputing claims that people make when THEY HAVE NO EVIDENCE for me to even dispute besides their big fat mouth. It's absurd and needs to stop by having this one Sacred section.

Well thanks for the support guys, I appreciate it, I think if we can bring this to the attention of the right people on this forum, we can make something happen. It truly is out of hand. Very much agree with this statement: "lots of repeated theories and posts that no one seems to be actually trying" But to be clear, I don't want to stifle the ideas or voices of anyone in our community, I just think we should have a section where readers can go to just read the facts, the truth, things that have been confirmed by the community. Like, having one of your posts moved to the Truth section should be like an honor or something, your credibility should go up. I feel like this part is the key: All posts in section must be per-approved/confirmed by a moderator, no new posts can be placed or started under this "Truth section". To get a post moved to the truth section, there must be evidence, and it should be confirmed, to get your post in the Truth Limbo or "Waiting for Confirmation" section...all you need is video or pics or some type of visual evidence. But ONLY posts with evidence can EVEN BECOME ELIGIBLE to be placed in this Truth waiting section....that way we can weed out more trolls and we can have the piece of mind that whatever we are debating or discussing, is at least able to be seen by the eyes of everyone contributing to the that specific post. Like here is the video or pictures, now what do you guys think, [As opposed to me just making up some outrageous claim with nothing to back it up except me telling you my 3rd cousin once removed, works for Treyarch] Thoughts? I also have never been to the Asylum section although I do remember seeing it. Was it like exactly the same idea as what I am saying or was it different? Like I just want a section where trolls can never get to, where there are actual confirmed answers to questions asked, instead of rampant rampant rampant speculation. Maybe we can call it the "Proof or it Didn't Happen Section" Idonno, maybe it's just me.

I am so upset by this that here is just a really really quick and incomplete and probably somewhat inaccurate list of how I think the section should look, please feel free to modify, answer questions concisely and if there are side notes, put them below, especially feel free to add good questions, I think that is important, and every time we think of a good question, we can add it to the list and then people can stop making repetitive posts over and over and there wont be any trolls in that section either.... Ok, what if we don't know the answer to something? That's fine dude, then for example: PURELY AN EXAMPLE OF THE FORMAT, THESE ANSWERS ARE NOT ALL CONFIRMED YET I AM JUST MAKING A POINT: Nav Card: Where to Find the Nav Card: Behind Bus Station, best done in solo mode. for discussion click here Will it save to your profile: Yes, once you pick it up, it saves. for discussion click here Where does the Nav Card go: unconfirmed/under testing, for discussion click here What does the Nav Card do: unconfirmed/under testing, for discussion click here What is the Nav Card for: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Is there a secret/alternate Nav Card under the Bus Driver: No. for discussion click here Does anyone in the world know what the Nav Card does: Yes. The people that made the game. Glowing Red Orbs: Where can I see the glowing Red Orbs? There are several known locations, around the traffic light in the town, around the mystery box at the farm and _______. Are those the only locations: Those are the only known locations where visual evidence has been provided at this time. How do I make the Orb appear: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here What does the glowing red orb do: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Why doesn't it appear in every match: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Can you move the orbs around the map: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Emblem and Tally Marks How many Tally marks can you get: 1 - 5 . for discussion click here How do I add more tally marks to my Zombie Emblem: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here What do the tally marks really represent? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here How do I get a higher emblem? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here How many different emblems can you get? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here How come my ranking went down after I didn't play the game for a couple of days, I didn't get worse at the game, I just didn't play it for a few days: The community is as lost as you on that one. for discussion click here What is the precise formula the game uses to determine what zombie emblem I earn? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here What leader-board categories are associated with the formula for earning emblems? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Which categories are the most important for earning new emblems and tally marks? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Is there a specific mathematical kinda formula the game uses to determine your ranking? Yes. under testing, for discussion click here Do you know what the formula is? Not yet. under testing, for discussion click here Notes: There are many theories on this topic, from how many days in a row you have played the game, to how active of a player you are over every "x" amount of hours that pass, How to lose your Tally Marks: unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Tranzit Easter Egg: Can you do both sides of the Egg in 1 game: Does it matter which side you do first? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Does the map change at all when you finish the egg? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here What happens if you completed one side of the egg already and try to do the other side of the egg in an entirely different game? Will anything happen? unconfirmed, under testing, for discussion click here Is there an in game reward for completing the Easter egg or just the achievement? As of now, just the achievement and minor visual changes, but people agree the Easter Egg feels unfinished. under further testing, for discussion click here Is there a secret bus route? No. Not yet. There has been no visual evidence provided for this topic. for discussion click here Is there a night bus? No. There has been no visual evidence provided for this topic. for discussion click here Is there a hidden train station? No. There has been no visual evidence provided for this topic. for discussion click here Are there space aliens that abduct you in the crop circles? No. There has been no visual evidence provided for this topic. for discussion click here Is there no sanctuary of truth? Is there no respect for the truth? Gentlemen, can we please not do this? Can we not do this with every single cod zombies game and map pack? Because we absolutely do this every time a map pack comes out. I don't post often but I read often, and it's getting hard to read. I am all for theories and discussion, that's great, high five, what you said. I know it's hard. I know you want it to be true. I know you want there to be something. I know you want there to be some secret area or room with like, the PPSH on the wall and it's like hell yea dude, this is sick. And you wanna keep reading what the poster is saying because you just wanna believe there is something like that, we all do, I am telling you every person on this site wants there to be something like that in the game. Like in WAW...where you could get the ray game on the 2nd level of the campaign and these 4 lion statues came out of the ground and the screen shakes and you got the ray gun, if you run through these certain bomb shell craters on the map where you sail in on the mini boats. (That's actually true by the way, I'm not kidding). This is the only part you have to read of what I am saying: 1. We need to have a "Truth" Section of this forum that nobody can "get to" and corrupt or ruin with their lies and deceit or perfectly honest mistakes or genuine misbeliefs or outlandishly foolish theories. All posts in section must be pre-approved/confirmed by a moderator, no new posts can be placed or started under this "Truth section". To get a post moved to the truth section, there must be evidence, or at the very least, a moderator and only a moderator can move posts to the truth section. It would be like just a couple different extremely well-titled posts, of truthful/accurate/reliable information...like...in a row...consistently...without reading the arguments and theories. Everyone has theater mode. Go back and save the part where you magically arrive at this train station or board the night bus, it's that simple. Everyone has a cell phone. Take pictures and/or video. There is no excuse, im sorry, there just is no excuse to making outrageous claims without evidence on this site. And then in addition to the Truth section there should be another section, the "Truth-Claims" or "Truth-Limbo" section. And to post in the Limbo section, you have to have evidence or proof to support your claim or you can't post there or moderator moves the post due to lack of video evidence/picture evidence, visual proof. Why? [Mostly to just make it difficult for people to trick/lie to the community, waste everyone's time] But also bc that way, when there are 47 pages of discussion about secret bus stops, the train station and the night bus and Dr. Maxis' nut sack magically telling you what the 28th step in the Easter egg is, at least there we can all SEE or WATCH what we are all arguing about, we can see the event has occurred, we see what's happening on the map, what the character is holding, where he went on the map to yield this result, we see some evidence of what we are discussing. It's the most rational and reasonable and fair way to do it. I mean, if you are gonna tell the community that you know how to do this cool brand-new/unknown/secret-room/underground/bunker/hidden area, you should have to post proof in this one special section, because I can tell you all right now that Tranzit was created by a space turtle's fart but if I don't need to have evidence to get 47 pages of responses, then i can keep making stuff up all day. ohh add me on Xbox live and join my game, because that's the only way I'm gonna tell you how to unleash the space turtle's fart in Tranzit, get the f outta here, please guys, I can't take it, if we can't do my idea that is fine, but then we need to come up with something else. And this post belongs in this forum. Free tip: When people say things as riddles and hints, unless recognized as a legitimate member of the community, they are um, lying. I know the next step in the egg, But first you must drink from this keg, Then I'd like you to get on your knees and beg, and do it while u hop around on one leg, Please, let's do something about this...

I've been trying to bring attention to this. Maybe, you find a second location to throw a monkey, and it talks to you again, and maybe you do it a 3rd tme...and the voice will give you some instruction or something. Maybe you launch the rocketship after you have found the 3 places to throw the monkey. maybe that window outside near the ak74u, the one with the hole in it, maybe you throw the 3rd monkey in there. In another topic, i read someone say that they got the monkey to talk to them again by throwing it near the opening in the roof where the black portrait is. Der Reise Monkey Throw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSMtF206KQ Kino Monkey Throw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQVup0lrZuA Does anyone else see the similarities....or maybe thats just me and im out of my mind and crazy and insane for trying to link the monkey throw on der riese to the monkey throw on kino. And Kino was supposed to come out for WAW because it was the next map after Der Reise.....

Proof or it didn't happen...I totally hear that brother.....here ya go. Your soul is miiiiiine. Der Reise Monkey Throw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmSMtF206KQ Kino Monkey Throw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQVup0lrZuA Does anyone else see the similarities....or maybe thats just me and im out of my mind and crazy and insane for trying to link the monkey throw on der riese to the monkey throw on kino.

Fair enough...but i will bet you my soul on a platter that if you throw a monkey in the furnace in Der Riese, samantha or some voice will talk to you, EXACTLY like the voice from Kino. Care to wager your soul vs my soul?