MysteryMachineX

I know what you meant. I simply refute it.

Yeah I know, but I'm just saying. Don't say it like it is a fact You ignore the following sentence. Don't be selective.

On forums I previously visited, I had my name as Mystery rather than Murder, because I empathized with people when they were offended. However, my primary objective here is a game where I constantly kill zombies, so I thought Murder fit. Not once have I had a complaint that it was offensive. Where I did receive a complaint, I changed it. But no one here has said anything.

I flat-out said that already.

Jumping Jacks are mutations of Phaser Zombies which are mutations of Nova 6 Crawlers which are mutations of ???. We could say that ??? are the Vril-ya, as they are quite similar to the zombies found in Shangri-la. @Scoldon: So you are relating the 115 inside the Ray Gun to the Jumping Jacks which may be similar to what's in Who's Who? Hm, quite a different perspective of things. Nice observation, friendo! We can't determine the workings exactly of Who's Who, and we can't fully determine if 115 is truly involved in the mutation of Jumping Jacks. Something else caused them to mutate. Evolution? A new element/catalyst? The liquid in the Sliquifier looks more similar to the mist when Jumping Jacks move from place to place. Something else is involved in the process. Man became Zombie. Zombie became Gas Zombie. Gas Zombie became Phasing Zombie. Phasing Zombie became Jumping Jack.

No problem. Lol thank you. That is very kind. I understand, and that is true as well. I disagree. I think if you get protractor out and measure the angles of the mountains from their peaks you'll get completely different measurements. Well we think it was on Mars. However, what moved them to Mars? It's been generally accepted that the Vril-Ya did it. Now I do suppose they could have used those buttons, but I think it is probably something we cannot even imagine. Technology so beyond our time that could move a location. I was. Earth > Mars > Earth. I was under the impression the Martian mountain was simply forgotten, the last trace of the mighty civilization's past. I really don't think so. Look at the pools of water. They're stagnant. You'd get a disease from drinking that. I think it is more likely to be water having seeped. Theoretically it could have spouted from a geyser, but it doesn't look it to me. Yes, entirely. The Vril-Ya inhabited Shangri-La. When they left, Asians inhabited. Then the Nazis took over. Then the Soviets took over. But I don't think the solution is to just add Americans to the list. Brock and Gary weren't representing any government. They were some hybrid of scientist and explorer, trying to prove Agartha. Do you really think the government would support a trip trying to find Agartha? Keep in mind that that was around the '90's, minimum, given by the radio. But it would have to be IN the information technology age, because Brock and Gary had '90's styled radios. Okay, so you solve that by having the travel constrained to the device. That works. There's no need for alternate timelines. We have no paradoxes that call for it. But still, the Focusing Stone would be in plain sight. Maxis did invent it. And I can tell you that I have no idea why they would have it. Or rather, they wouldn't... Are you trying to explain why the 31-79 JGb215 appears in the Mystery Box? That's kind of a lost cause. Trying to find significance in that is like trying to figure out how Double-Tap Root Beer works. It just does. My best guess, if I had to try to explain it, would be that Samantha fills the Box with weapons of general interest. However she does not know weapons well enough to get the right time period exactly right, which is why you see guns from varying areas. When you go to a place that has a new Wonder Weapon, she thinks it is cool and adds it to the Box. Yes. I would file that under why Richtofen said the things he did when he arrived in Kino. Dozens of possible reasons, any one could be acceptable. And we will probably never be told which of the reasons is the right one. Thank you. I appreciate it. Now I have to vote for you for User of the Month. (Well I don't, but now I feel compelled. Not because of the flattery but because of your invitation.) Well, it's meant to be jocular. But it does hold a point. And lol. But you actually bring up a valid point. However, I don't want to say what it is because it involves Die Rise being in the future and... well some people hate me for that, so yeah... let me know if you care about this, which you only will if you agree with me on that. Anyhow, thank you.

Well first of all, about me saying Earth, let me clarify. I believe Shangri-La WAS on Mars, but isn't anymore. There's too much evidence saying that it is currently on Earth. While the Pack-A-Punch's wobbling is strange, there might be a simpler reason for it. For example, we know that we arrive in that area due to teleporting, yes? This is the first time we have arrived through teleporation right next to the Pack-A-Punch. Is it not too far fetched to say that the Pack-A-Punch's wobbling is a direct result of it being shaken by the chaotic event that is teleportation happening right next to it? Also, grates are grates. I don't think that the grates being in Shangri-La and No Man's Land looking similar proves anything. And honestly, they don't even look that similar to me. Think of poison and evolution. According to the theory of evolution, poison evolved on MANY separate occasions because of similar needs. Similarly, a device built for you to sit on has similarities to a chair, no matter where it was built. Also, the mountains in No Man's Land look nothing like the ones in Shangri-La to me. They are much flatter and less steep. We know Shangri-La happened in the Himalayas. But you say it could've moved sometime before then. The last time it moved, we had the Vril-Ya to blame. Who would we blame this time? It would now the technological age, yes? Wouldn't someone have noticed? But you say the U.S. government noticed. I don't think so. The size of Shangri-La is simply too massive. You can't put that next to Area 51 and have no one notice. Also, we have no way of knowing HOW Shangri-La was moved. We just know the Vril-Ya did it, somehow. The buttons being pressed, that does time travel. We have not seen them do space travel, so we should be cautious before assuming that. While there is water flowing downhill in Shangri-La, how does it flow up into Area 51? My guess as to how the water got there is as good as yours, but I fail to see how water would flow up. I suppose there could be a reservoir below that is seeping into the ground. However, if Shangri-La was next to Area 51, it would run out of water. This is because Area 51 is in NEVADA. Water is not common there. In fact, that is how Nevada got its shape. The government stretched out one corner of it so that it could reach water that it otherwise would not have had. I think the water reservoir in No Man's Land comes from artificial means, not a natural river, not even an irrigation system. It would make more sense to simply come from the same place the rest of Nevada gets its water from. Also, we know the Soviets took control of Shangri-La from the Lunar Landers present there. It made sense, since the Himalayas aren't that far from Russia. I think that would conflict with the U.S. government running it. The Focusing Stone... it honestly just doesn't make sense. If the buttons make them go back in time, they then see the Focusing Stone unscathed. However, if Shangri-La had moved, then they'd be in the middle of a desert, wouldn't they? Not to mention that how could the Focusing Stone be right under their noses if at the time it was a giant meteor crashed into the temple? I think Richtofen went to No Man's Land because he knew he needed to get to Griffin Station. Why didn't he go there directly? I think there may have been a physical spatial range issue, but that is just a guess. Perhaps we went to No Man's Land to get the Kasimir plates first? But it turns out the two were linked with a teleporter. Either way, Richtofen knew Area 51 was going to have something interesting relating to 115. He could have just been trying his luck. Sorry I had nothing good to say. But I operate on the belief that facts are points, theories are lines. The best theory will be a straight line through the points. The theory to me seems unnecessarily crooked. I use this example when explaining this: Richtofen teleported from point A to point B. We know this. Did he stop for doughnuts in between points A and B? It is possible, but highly unlikely.

I just thought of an idea. I think we should have more 4v4 modes. Grief is great, but I think instead of getting another Grief level, we should get a new mode. It'd be refreshing. I think we should get a Team Deathmatch mode. It's four versus four. You spend the game killing each other to get the most kills. Whichever teams has the most kills is the winner. Of course, this would require a big map for it to really be effective. Also, zombies are attacking the entire time. So it would be different than standard multiplayer. It'd be like Team Deathmatch, just "zombiefied". Every time you die, you spawn with a M1911, a random weapon, and one random Perk. If you can survive long enough, you can buy other things. The reason for the free gun and Perk is so you have fighting chance. Also, the Box, guns, and all Perks are free. They would have to be, because getting enough points to get to the Box is not a problem. The problem is getting to the Box and getting a gun out before dying. Also, the game would get harder and harder since the zombies would get harder. Also, zombies would count as quarter-kills. Every four zombies you kill equals one human. Just a thought.

You don't hit the ground at all. You hit a "death barrier" which triggers your death. Prior to the recent patch, there was a glitch where you could bypass the death barrier. Since there was no geometry beyond that point, you ended up performing a Pac-Man style trick where you fell though the level, landing on top of the roof.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/scie ... s-Yes.html Experimenting on animals is controversial. You may think it is evil, but is it actually evil? Society on a whole cannot say yes or no. So, that can't be taken as evil. You might as well say that he is evil for believing in global warming. It's controversial, and to call him evil based on something which has a large support base for NOT being evil I think is narrow. You could extrapolate it and say that the testing of an animal in general wasn't as evil as testing of the specific animal was. Sure, it was Samantha's pet, but what alternative did he have? There were no other animals in the facility. They needed to test something besides humans/zombies. Maxis did he, but he didn't have to like it. He did many things he didn't want to do, but he was pressured, heavily, by both Richtofen and the Reichstag High Command. Money was tight, experimentation was difficult due to resources. I mean, I think testing on an animal is a mean thing to do, but it doesn't make the person doing it evil. Takeo killed his entire family. He claims he had a good reason to do it, but does it make him evil? You're not given no chance. The destruction of the Earth as we know it so far seems to be a temporary setback. Richtofen has a plan to undo it. Maxis has a seemingly similar plan to rid us of zombies. Hindering Richtofen by killing his torture subjects seems to just be a temporary measure. The implications of this are yet to be seen. There is ZERO evidence for saying he is evil. All there is is interpretation of the events, which is to say not true evidence. It's the difference between a cop defining a criminal's motive and finding actual evidence saying what the motive is beyond reasonable doubt. @RequixEclipse: Richtofen was upset that Maxis was not mass producing the Wunderwaffe DG-2, because Richtofen loved that weapon. The more time he spent with Sophia, the less time Maxis was working on mass producing it. In actuality, Maxis never was going to mass produce it, and he never worked towards that end. The weapon was simply too deadly.

Maxis wasn't a Nazi. He was simply the leader of a group of scientists who contracted out a deal with the Nazis. That's like calling a U.S. Contractor a Marine. Richtofen was in the same situation, except that Richtofen additional signed up for the Nazi army. Keep in mind that his intent was NOT to blow up the Earth. His victorious laugh was probably ill-conceived. He thought his plan worked, but turns out he was wrong. The explosion was much bigger than he planned. This goes into the question: What exactly did he plan? No, I don't. Experimenting on animals today is a controversial subject. That only makes him as evil as pharmaceutical companies. He did NOT want to make an undead army. He only did it because the Nazis were making him. He wrote that he had many worries that the Armeeuntoten was going to backfire. Well, when you think about it, blowing up the planet may not have been the planned result, but it's the next best thing. Would you prefer to die right away or to be slowly tortured? By extinguishing humanity as a whole, he spared us from being slowly tortured, which is what Richtofen would have done. Blowing up the Earth actually hurt Richtofen, because now he has almost no living people to play with. Sure, he has zombies, but he has those on the Moon too. What he really wanted was people to "play" with. Well, he WAS the leader. Group 935 no longer exists. And Richtofen is a homosexual; he was not jealous. And we know from the Moon Radios that Samantha being in the MPD was an accident.

I like Maxis, because he is the good guy. There is absolutely zero evidence that he is evil. It's ridiculous. People don't like him only because they don't know exactly how is plan is going to work. He has done nothing to show us that he is evil. The only way he'll be evil is if he does a 180 and turns evil. But the same is true of you. And me. The reason people don't like Richtofen is because he is one of the most dastardly villains ever. Richtofen's goal is clear. He wants to bring the world back up, so that he can bring it back down. And still people choose him?

The debris you see on Die Rise is the same debris you see on the menu screen. It is simply chunks of rock blown into the exosphere. How are they staying up? Easy, they're NOT. Throughout the game, you see meteors fall up. They aren't staying up in the sky. They are coming down, but it is a slow and nearly perpetual process.

Guys. I want an honest answer. Which is better: the Wave Gun? the 31-79 JGb215? or the Sliquifier? Thing new patched Sliquifier makes judgement a bit difficult. It has finite damage now, as you can see by crawlers. However, it is the largest finite damage ever seen. I mean, it CAN get you to Round 100 with seemingly infinite damage. What do you guys think?

It is one of Richtofen's quotes. It references the Power.

But your definition is limited. Definitions are re-worked all the time. Language evolves. To say what makes a Wonder Weapon by excluding all recent evidence is to not "stay with the time", so to speak. It's like picking and choosing your data to come to the conclusion you'd like to come to. Sure, most of the ones we HAD were made by them. But times have changed. There's a new one made by a new group of people. Btw, Matryoshka Dolls were Samantha's creation.

Root beer today is soda. However, back when Double-Tap Root Beer was created, in the '40's, root beer consisted of sassafras and alcohol. Not only is Double-Tap alcoholic, but it is a carcinogen. EDIT: (Since Double-Tap Root Beer II wasn't created until much later, it is likely that Double-Tap II is more like soda, since sassafras is practically outlawed by the FDA)

I don't agree with your idea. Sorry, nothing personal. But I just wanted to commend you for having an open mind. You don't see that too often, not to mention someone as manner-ful as yourself.

I don't think your definition of Wonder Weapon is exactly proper. Wonder Weapons must have a "wonder" about them. That is to say that they must have 115 in them. An exception can be made for the Matryoshka Dolls. So, counting the Matryoshka Dolls, weapons crafted with 115 or the Aether in mind are Wonder Weapons. There are four parts of the Sliquifier: the Foot, the Handle, the Canister and Ammunition, and the Base. Yes the Foot and Handle are everyday parts. But what about the other two? That canister holds something that is definitely peculiar. The base looks like it was designed for the exact purpose it is being used for. Also consider that when you apply the canister, the ammunition receptacle is put on along with it. This shows that the canister was meant to store the ammunition. It can't be Nova-6. The Jumping Jacks used to have Nova-6 in them. But in-game it is no longer there. This is because Nova-6 does not have the longest lifespan. It literally fizzles out. By the time we play the map, all Nova-6 is gone. I agree that the liquid is obviously Element 115. It seems to me that this thing was designed to be a Wonder Weapon. However, the missiles killed all the people off before they had a chance to finish it by putting it together. Our survivors find the pieces, put them together, get makeshift handles for it, and use it as a Wonder Weapon. It even appears in the Box as a one-per-team weapon. It can't be Pack-A-Punched, which makes sense because all Pack-A-Punched weapons had their upgraded forms' designs be placed within the Pack-A-Punch. (Think H. Porter and his Ray Gun, as well as Richtofen's DG-3.)

The guy has talent. However, the execution could have been a lot better. First of all, Misty looked male. And the song itself was just... ew. Hardly music. Robotic voice overall was overdone. I know technical limitations can only do so much to prevent such an autotune voice. However, if you're going to make a music video, at least choose a song that isn't so flat. Also, the lyrics weren't exactly inventive, and they repeated a lot. There's so much to this game, and only once did they actually mention mechanics of it like the Ray Gun and Teddy Bear. Btw, I don't know why they chose Juggernog to be alcoholic. Double-Tap Root Beer II is the only alcoholic drink on that map.

I agree with you. The SDC was mainly functional in 2025, and it only in that year really got ahold of China. Therefore Die Rise takes place in at least 2025 or something after.

Just reposting what I've said before on this subject:

Why is that the fourth post today with someone who has put "burst your bubble"... That post was made almost two weeks ago.

Tom, all you are pointing out is justification for using glitches. I don't think Treyarch should even care about that. The only thing that they should care about is whether or not it should be defined as a glitch. They've fixed a few things in BOII that weren't even glitches. THAT is a problem.

I think they need to fix some of the glitches of Who's Who. I played a game getting to Round 30 with four people last night. I went down 15 times because of the stupid Who's Who glitch. I only bled out twice, yet I bought the Galvaknuckles SEVEN TIMES. In the end, my only weapon was a MP5. No secondary weapon. No grenades. So frustrating. If they fixed that, then yeah, it'd be cool.