MysteryMachineX

For the "creep factors", I think it would be cool if you started off in an inclosed area with no lighting, FORCING you to have to use a flashlight. You could forgo it later in some areas when the power is on. That always sounded cool to me.

Avogadro came from a trophy release before the game came out, and no matter how much to you tell people to call it "Him" they simply won't, because Avogadro is an easy name to remember and everyone knows what it is. Him can refer to anyone technically, and I for one will continue to call him that. On a second much more related note, I was wondering if this is true: I run the tunnel for my trains and with well over 500 rounds put up in there I have never had the Avogadro spawn in with me, and I'm talking like level up to level 37 with not one sighting. It seems to me that unless he follows the bus in he can't get in the tunnel. Can anyone debunk this? Avogadro came from a FAKE, LEAKED achievement list. If you are calling him Avogadro, you are calling him a WRONG name. You are advocating the spread of IGNORANCE. Treyarch officially calls him "Him". Look at the achievement You Have No Power Over Me. That is his only mention of a name. And his name is that he really has no name, because "Him" is vague; it is mysterious. It would make a mysterious nature, but nooooooo, the gamers will just MAKE UP A NAME. Avogadro. PLEASE! Why don't you call him the Oppenheimer?! Or the Einstein?! Or the Franklin?! Ridiculous. There are some places "Him" will never spawn in.

Do NOT believe everything you read on the internet. Like first of all, it is called "Him", not Avogadro. Secondly, he continually returns to thw game no matter how many times you "kill" him, like the Pentagon Thief. Thirdly, while I am at it, he can be killed in areas that have roofs (someone claimed to me otherwise).

@Niho: I wasn't saying you were saying it wrong. I was just saying that what you were saying about how most people said it was not true. But yes, the developers said it wrong. *head shake* I don't find it too big a deal though. I mean, after all.... Wonder Waffle...

Oh yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. I absolutely love it. Sure, it causes my downs to rack up extremely quick, however, I do it for the team and not to have some fancy record of X kills and 0 down. It's rather amusing to watch the opposing team's players rage quit within a few minutes of realizing what's going on. EXACTLY! I am PROUD of huge number of downs! I may go down a "lot", but I WIN Grief games! And isn't that the point? To be honest, I hate it when my teammates are playing Defensively, HELPING the opposition, taking ALL the kills. We may win due to me getting the opposition down, however "they got more kills". =_=

Just to be clear, I wasn't accusing you Electric. This is just general Grief discussion, and I thought of something to discuss related to what you had said.

I don't know if that should be taken too seriously. Character quotes must be taken with a grain of salt, or we would all be posting on Tank's Facebook page. While it does make you think Richtofen would be her father, I do think that that is quite unlikely. And on such scant evidence, I think something else would need to point her in that direction before we can take what she says as literal to the letter.

Well I know first-hand that sometimes when playing the game for the first time you can come to the wrong conclusions. I say check your theatre mode and see what you can find. I've never had that happen to me. So there's not much else I can say on that in the meantime. Although I can say I've had the Turbine break on me, first use, but Richtofen never laughed to my knowledge.

Yes, thank you. I don't go around broadcasting my opinion that there is no more to the Easter Egg. I posted on this thread to say one thing and I replied when this sir asked for more information. I even typed my posts on here in such a way that were I to speak them the intent is for them to be near-monotonous. Incoming wall of text. Honestly, I gave you your chance sir. You're not getting another.

It wouldn't hurt to check.

Are you sure he revived you? That is quite strange. I find that unbelievable, but if that is true, I am sure we could look in the sound files and find the quote to match what you heard.

If you insist, I can try to educate you. You may or may not listen. Btw, Samantha, thank you for that. Floofy, lol. Noted? I never accused you of such. My original post was made before I even knew you existed, and the point of my first post on this thread was to educate against such an ending, which is preposterous. No he is not. He simply said that there is an "endgame of sorts", which is a clear reference to the storyline of TranZit. You, among others, have twisted that phrase to mean that there is more to it. You have made "endgame of sorts" suddenly be synonymous with "end of the game beyond the Achievement/Trophy". Death is one way to end the game. However, you clearly have overlooked the phrase "of sorts". He is referring to beating TranZit, the "campaign" of Zombies, and getting the Achievement. Once you've got the Achievement, you have reached an endgame. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/endgame?s=t The late or final stages of the Easter Egg. You receive an Achievement for completing said Easter Egg. You receive an Achievement and Maxis or Richtofen are grateful for the help of the players. Just because the "endgame" isn't as conclusive or as dramatic as a Hollywood stunt film does not make it incomplete. As an animator, I've made things with inconclusive endings on multiple occasions because they induce a larger audience. Just look at all the people looking for this thing. Inconclusivity sells. What comes only after you've done the Easter Egg? The beams of light, specifically to the Mystery Box, etc. You said yourself they were virtually negligible. Still arguing? I have yet to even comment on that. But again, if you insist, I'll bite, even if I must dislodge myself from the hook. I have used the NavCard. It is rejected. Point? No, no, it was rhetorical. I wouldn't be surprised if a DLC answered that question. As this is not the first time there was an unanswered question in the Easter Egg. In Shangri-La the player holds the Vril Generator. Point? It was for the next map, not the current one. viewtopic.php?f=100&t=18279 I've seen more evidence and proof in Zombies than you likely ever will. It's good to have that philosophy, but you are not alone. Der Riese - Fly Trap Ascension - Casimir Mechanism Kino der Toten - didn't even have one Honestly you were lucky to get an Easter Egg at all. Never before has a Call of Duty game shipped with a Zombie Easter Egg. No company can please everyone. Most fans are happy with the game. They play it after all, even you. However, if you are not satisfied with the game, you can be attributed to the minority that exists with every successful video game. Easter Eggs have gradually greatened over time. In Der Riese, they tested with the idea of an Easter Egg. In Kino and "Five", they had no time nor wish to implement such a thing when there were more important matters. In Ascension, they went all in. They got bigger and better 'til Moon. In Black Ops II, they put of a taste of what is to come. All but the first two trials of Easter Eggs give you an Achievement once complete. In fact, Moon gave you two. I assure you that I spent more time on this than you did. If anything it was mutual. Why am I here? Complete Zombies Storyline How to Get 6 Perks Logistic Analysis of Weapons Encyclopedia of Black Ops Zombies Cod Wiki Misinformation Grief Mode Analysis I only shoot down bad ideas.

Please lose the pretense, because you are not sorry. You should lose the attitude and personal derisions, as it does not help your case. In fact, it just makes people ignore you since part of your support is personal insults. I know I'm a good player. Whether or not you believe is not my concern.

Dude...lol wow. You blow my mind. Im trying to say this in the nicest way but anyone who just read your reply's is thinking the same thing I am, are you ignorant?! A PRODUCER OF THE GAME said "There is a narrative in Tranzit, and an endgame of sorts. Death is the most common ending, but it’s not necessarily the only ending. Pay attention to dialogue between the four new heroes and you’ll begin to unravel the mystery behind the zombie takeover of Earth.” LOL Why are you trying to argue the point over an actual member of 3arc quoting to playstation magazine?! Like who are you to argue a 'past' statement they made. Things can change and regardless of what was said in the past, REZA JUST SAID THAT YESTERDAY! lol like are you dense? Who's going to take your reply seriously when a producer of the game made that statement? lol And may i repeat, have you used the nav cards, nor played the DLC, nor seen how the other easter eggs were to honestly believe that this is over?! You turn power on or off, build a table or not, kill an electric dude or zombies under pylon, then either power lights or emp them and thats the end...lol please man It is not the developer nor I that is ignorant. I have read what he has said. But you are twisting and manipulating his words. Good luck with your quest for the Holy Grail.

Oh. Well I disagree. But I wasn't going to comment on that. I just wanted to make a post to make it clear to all involved that it is ridiculous for the game to actually have an ending.

I repeat. You can argue this however you want, but this will never change. I've seen people saying this come and go. This is not the first time. Nor will it be the last.

You are using abuse of the system as support? I could play with someone where they do a running circle and I just camp and kill their Zombies and get my kill/death ratio up. That is ridiculous. The goal of the game is to get high rounds. If you are piggybacking off of someone, then GOOD for you! What's the point in playing with friends then, according to you? If I have people willing to play with me to an insanely high round, I don't care how good they are. As long as they can stand on their two feet are willing to play a long game, they are good. "It's not what you know, it's who you know." That's how real life works. It is how Zombies works. Kill/death is flawed because it encourages game-quitting, playing solo, ignoring your friends, and not using Tombstone.

Zombies has not nor will it ever have had an ending. Looking for one is futile. Treyarch specifically said that Zombies will not be changed from its original never-ending formula.

I agree. I think the ranking system is very superficial. I think Rounds are the only thing that can determine whether or not you are a good player. But the ranking system is not alone in being flawed. The Grief stats are as well. The goal of Grief is to outlive the other team. So I will do all the work to kill the opponents, going down a bunch, and the other guy gets all the kills. He thinks he's great even though I did all the work. As for the ranking system... I'm a skull. It's not going to change. Just learn to cope with it I suppose.

You're a fool. None of said "FAKE!" We simply said we choose not to believe it until there is proof. It is called being rational. You, on the other hand, support gullibility? You would be surprised what some people do to get attention. That is not true. Maybe you called it that. Maybe your friends did. However, I call it Der "Rees". I actually found out German necessitates Der "Reez-ae", and I would've called it that, had I not found out that Treyarch always pronounces it Der "Rees", so I've called it that.

Day. It is only so dark because of the dust clouding the view of the sun.

Thank you very much. Your skill is admirable. I will try this sometime. :)

Actually, no. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUm-p-DXSQ 6:14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2vnLXLyMIs 6:13 MTD, not MDT. The ONLY mention of MDT is on the Kino der Toten loading screen, where Richtofen asks many questions he already knows the answers to and even has his own name misspelled. It is near-certain that Richtofen was merely delusional after his first time jump. Regardless, every time since then it has been called MTD, not MDT. To call the MTD the MDT is to call Speed Cola instead Sleight of Hand Soda.

Yes, I corrected that in the post following that one.

With any sport there will be those that play it to simply show some imaginary aura of superiority.