PyroZombie

I think we can say this about Maxis, at the very least; Something isn't right about him anymore. If the rockets destroyed the threat on earth, than why would zombies be coming when you go to Area 51? It doesn't seem to have fixed the problem, but perhaps caused a new one, or the most brought-up theory, exacerbated it. I can't definitively say that there is a partnership between these two enemies, but something isn't right about this, not right at all. I believe I posted here about the "Not Ready to Die" song, about how the song reflects the path that Richtofen has taken, the one he's currently on, and where this path will take him. Well it appears now Richtofen has realized his grand vision; A world entirely in his control. I'm inclined to believe the ununpentium Missiles, while taking a monstrous chunk from the world, could have equally have infested it with 115-energy(remember that 115 is a radioactive substance, and most likely shares similarities to that of uranium, Etc). We know what happens when you introduce this energy to dead bodies, hell, they've driven the point home in that respect. With a blast of this magnitude(Judging by the gigantic hole this event leaves), I doubt that above a 50% of the inhabitants of earth are still alive, depending where he hit, I'll go not above 10%, meaning Richtofen currently controls a large percent of the world. The one other X-factor here is Samantha. Does she retain any abilities at all after being switched with Richtofen? Or is it that the radiation permeating Samantha's body that allows her to do the voodoo that she does do. This entire events create more questions than answers, and I am inclined to believe that this is not the end. I apologize for the cliche, but I think that this is simply the end of the beginning.

I recognize these symbols from the wheels around the mud room. Perhaps this holds the key.

These gongs seem to trigger some sort of noticible ambient effect when some of them are hit, but only certain ones will do it. Facing the pack a punch; 2 on the left, the closest one to the waterfall and the other side of the mud trap. the one at spawn. and one on the right, between the minecart and tunnel. I'm finagling around with these gongs, seeing if there is a correct order to press but it seems that these four can be activated just plainly, with no order needed. perhaps there is an order to the correct ones.

I don't know, I don't see this illustrious 5 or little skull, and if you look at it, it bares the same features of juggernog, the little handle, the rounded out frame, etc. Besides why would they color it the same as jug? They couldn't think of another color? why not black or white? or fuchsia or bright glowing green?

maybe... but maybe, He's going back in time to stop himself from experimenting on Samantha, therefore when they are killed, they just stay dead. In the CoTD song, The song says, though it's under scrutiny, "The Endless Possibility Controlling 935." But to my knowledge, the outbreak started immediately after her death, meaning he never held the reins after Maxis's death. This seems unlikely, but What would you do if you wanted to control the world?

Great catch, new guy.

That seems like the DG-2, but there is something different about it, it looks more streamline. And what is that sticking out of the top of it? Is that the goldenrod?

if I just saw right, then i believe the fire zombies are indeed a new form of zombie, much like the Nova Zombies.

The crew aren't immune, They've already been effected. Remember Richtofen's notes on these men in CoTD? They were a part of a super-soldier program Group 935 was working on. They were already introduced to 115, and arguably, Richtofen has been exposed to enough 115 through his work with maxis, The DG-2, and his experiments that his insanity might be due to the exposure. Through their exposure, each of the three had received a different effect. Takeo would sit in his cell and mutters proverbs, to which Richtofen comments that his mind might have been destroyed in the experiments. Nikoli would only respond to the stimuli when introduced to a compound Richtofen made out of primarily vodka. Tank,being tank, became hostile to everything, and would always break his restraints and yell at Richtofen.

I do believe Takeo has most of his memory, but I don't think he wants to get closer to richtofen, but rather he wants to take care of Samantha before Murdering Richtofen.

Here's my assertion to you; If they went back in time, wouldn't their be large ripples forward that we would notice? If they indeed went back in time, there would be some sort of ripple in the timeline that we'd be able to notice. And upon typing this, I figured out what doesn't match up. In CoTD, Richtofen has the stars retrieve the golden rod, and he leaves with it(as confirmed by dempsey who asks him, reluctantly, if thats a rod in his pocket, where Richtofen responds "Nein, Lets go, I have a meeting." Arguably, Richtofen means a meeting with Samantha, meaning that golden rod must hold some effect over Samantha. Richtofen's grand goal is to stop the zombies, which means stop Samantha. If this golden rod does in fact stop her, we would see no zombies in Call of The Dead. Also, a little side step, if the golden rod is used farther back in the time-line, than wouldn't that mean the golden rod would never have been under the ice in the first place?

Oh god, the Olympia. Get it away, can't we censor that word?

To truly post my comments, I'll have to go through it extensively, I'll be putting your statements in unofficial quotes, and also italicizing them. -Qoute- Hello, so here's my theory about Abracadavre : "I can fly like a bird not in the sky Which can always swim and always dry I say goodbye at night and morning hi I’m part of you what am I I follow and lead as you pass Dress yourself in black my darkness lasts I flee the light but without the sun Your view of me would be gone" Meaning : Samantha saying by a riddle that she's a shadow following Richtofen. -End quote- I believe you hit the nail on the head there, but I think more needs to be there. I think it's more of a point towards the futility. "I follow and lead as you pass"; The idea of that whether or not they go someplace else, she will be there. And not only will she be there, but through her powers, she will lead them to their end. "Dress yourself in black, My darkness lasts", Perhaps a message solely to Richtofen, stating it doesn't matter if he appearance changes or not, she know it's him. This is where it gets a little strange, but stay with me. "I fear the light, but without the sun Your(Some folks say "Our") view of me will be gone." Now, I noticed something within the latest developments of our story.It would seem that Solar Eclipses mean something. It seemed to make Sam alot stronger, her presence being felt much more, considering the fly-trap easter egg, and their are rumors flying that the Eclipse in this one will make the zombies much stronger. In shangra-la, there are shots of pure daylight, something that we've never quite seen in a zombies map, it's always been hidden away, night, or foggy. This could mean that the eclipse and sunlight is key to finding and/or sending Sam away in our latest map. -quote- "I can see the damage that I Am causing you is so benign You want me to be gone But I have just be-gun I am the only one “undone” I’m a broken miracle now In your head I don’t feel Like I am real But I know It’s all imaginary Are they real And do they feel Is all the pain Just inside my head" Meaning : Samantha knows that she's "killing" Richtofen, but that she think this is benign compared to what Richtofen did to her and her father, Dr.Maxis, she says she's a broken miracle, and that she's undone, because she control zombies, but broken because she's dead. Then she says that she think that all is imaginary, that she's not dead, and it's all a dream. -end quote- I liked the first part, but you started to lose me after the first sentence. Personally, I think the term "Broken Miracle" refers to her state. While she is alive and powerful, but at the cost of her mind, body, and, for dramatic effect, her soul. The line "I'm the only one undone." might refer to the fact that, contrary to many of my theories regarding Dr. Maxis's current state, that she is the only one in her little world. It could also be regarding the idea that Richtofen's experiments have all been, for a lack of a better word, "upgraded", while she is left unraveled in the fabric of space and time. I believe your right on the cusp of the meaning of the chorus. I think, rather than her believing it's all a dream, this is a statement towards her disbelief that all this is happening in a kind of downward spiral into depression and madness that we've seen before. She wants it to be a hallucination, a dream that she will one day wake from. There is another short idea about the chorus, but I will explain it during a later section where i think this idea has greater value. -quote- "I am what men love more than life Fear more than death or mortal strife What dead men have and rich require I’m what contented men desire You, want me to be gone But I have just be-gun You will never know how far I’ve come What goes up must never come back down In your head I don’t feel Like I am real But I know It’s all imaginary Are they real And do they feel Is all the pain Just inside my head" Meaning : Richtofen saying by a riddle that he's nothing, that he know Samantha want him to be dead, but that she'll never know what he did, like the WunderWaffe DG-2, the teleporters, the zombies, and how far he survive to them, and that he will not do his downfall now. Then he say that he "know" that the zombies are inside his head, that he didn't killed Samantha, and he say all was just a dream. -end quote- Personally, I don't think Richtofen alone has much to do about this line. Rather, I believe the line is to the team, once again about futility. This time, about stopping her. Sam is sent through the teleporter the moment death looms. To cut to the chase,she might not retain a physical form anymore, as all teleporter's work on the sole idea of de-constructing matter and reconstructing it in another place.If something like the emergence of her powers, or the fact that the teleporter is malfunctioning(Regarding the fact that "Fluffy" didn't return immediately where she was supposed to,) her corporeal form maybe lost, and she may just now be sub-atomic energy vapor that is supercharged by the unupentium experiments that Richtofen performed behind her back. Since she holds no physical form, there isn't much bullets and explosives can do to her, which, until Ascension, was all the team really had, Not counting the Wonderwaffe, which would be absent or unseen until Call of the Dead. She believes to be immortal, but this map holds something very different from our normal assortment of weapons. I refer to, of course, The Gersch Device, our black-hole bombs. Gersch's physical state is relatively unknown, but some clues lead me to believe that Gersch existed in the same state as Sam. If his device, aided by other 115 related energies, could free Gersch, then maybe it is possible to effect Samantha. The only thing that perturbs me is the line "What goes up must never comes back down". I can't seem to wrap my head around it. It might be another riddle, but it might not just refer to her vaporous state, It's really difficult to say. Went off on a mild tangent, but never-the-less relative to the story and song. -quote- "It’s all inside my head It’s just inside my It’s all inside my They’re all inside my I see them always but they’re All inside my head All inside my head They’re all inside my head" Meaning : Richtofen and Samantha, saying that everything is just a dream. -end quote- No offense, but I don't think that's right at all. Rather than this, i believe for the most part, It's back to her recession of sadness and psychosis, with a rather interesting twist. The word "They". "They" is very robust word, used to describe groups, and sometimes is mentioned instead of the names of groups of power. It's possible she is referring to the team; No matter the difference, they still protect the one who wronged her, meaning they deserve death just as much as Richtofen. I think it is also referring to the hoard she commands. They are mindless, so they share no individual purpose or interest. They're sole purpose in they're un-life is to destroy her enemies. She sees them always due to the fact a little bit of her exists in all of them, so they are always being controlled by her, or they are always "in her head." -quote- "It’s killing me To see I’m killing you" Meaning : Richtofen, saying that everytime he remember him killing Samantha and her father, he's dying of regret. -end quote- I think you are, again, on the very cusp of it. I believe this refers to what Samantha gets out of killing Richtofen. Maybe it's physically killing her to see Richtofen, rather than the hyperbole. Perhaps the only reason she exists is to destroy him, and when he is destroyed, she will simply dissipate into the ether. -quote- "Death is magic Say Abracadavre Now…" Meaning : Samantha, saying that death is magic. (Probably because now she have power over zombies.) -End Quote- I have to say, nail on the head; right on the chin. -Quote- "You see me now you… Don’t cry when I am gone" Meaning : Here is an interresing step, You see me now? That means Richtofen met Samantha. I'll do a post about this meeting. I dont know if it is Samantha or Richtofen, but that explain that now : Richtofen want Samantha to be gone. Samantha want Richtofen to be gone Both will be happy if someone die. They will not cry. -end quote- I really can't tell you something better, but I'm almost certain it isn't this. Maybe it's something regarding her father watching over her. -Quote- "These shackles they come With certain opportunities They won’t let me get away But they show me we’re the same We’re the same We’re the same They show me that we are the same" Meaning : BIG STEP : Samantha, saying that she got an opportunity to kill Richtofen, and that she will not be free until she do it. And she understand why Richtofen killed her and her father, because he was forced to do it. She say that they're the same, forced to kill each other. This is a big step because now, we know that neither Samantha nor Richtofen want to kill each other, but : Samantha must kill Richtofen so she can rest in peace. Richtofen must kill Samantha (Again) so the zombies can dissapear. They both have to kill each other. Sad. -End quote- right and wrong, She does have her opportunity, at the cost of her humanity and mortality, bound by the idea of revenge. "They won't let me get away" must refer to the team's desire to live, once again saying she will be free once their deaths have been caused. "But they show me we're the same" Considering that this is in Ascension, where new voice clips are beginning to point towards the memories coming back to Tank, Takeo, and Nikolai, all of them showing a questionable attitude towards Richtofen, the most drastic being Takeo, who may have already had his memory come back, stating; "Richtofen, his evil is great. But not as great as what we fight today. One day, when the time is right I will make him pay for what he has done!". They are still mindless, but they're cause is changing. Though they unite against her, they are beginning to turn on Richtofen. Therefore, they are the same. -Quote- "I can’t give in I won’t give in It’s not a state of mind" Meaning : Richtofen can't die now, and he will not die, he will survive it's not a state of mind. -end quote- Again, I don't think Richtofen is involved in this personally, only in subject matter. She's stating that she will not give in to their persistence. Her will is not an effect of the experiments, but she really desires revenge. -quote- "I’m wretched but I’m powerful and" Meaning : Samantha, she's undead, she's wretched between Demonic Samantha and Good Samantha, but she's still powerful. -end quote- rather than the pull between the two personalities, which I'm sure exists though i think she isn't aware. She is aware that she is a monster, but she also acknowledges her useful power, useful at least towards her end. overall- you did well, but you looked too hard for drama between the two. Richtofen is a unfeeling monster, he doesn't care about the fact he killed her, nor the death of Maxis. He's a demented psychopath, and I'm sure we will see him taken care of, if not by Samantha, then by any of the other three. And if this long post breaks some rule, i apologize, but i felt putting in his excerpts would better my post's quality..

But Shangri-La is before CoTD so others can be changed too. This is very unlikely, what about the sounds of animals, or the allusion to "paradise"? It really makes no sense when looking at hard evidence.

I have to think that they would do it in order, it would be too strange to do it any other way.

I have used it pack-a-punched, it's actually a pretty fine weapon, I wouldn't use it in a clinch, but it's a double held weapon, which is fantastic for those times of being chased by a hoard.

the zombie is stumbling too, so maybe it is extra-effective on joints and causes zombies to get slower.

I don't think Samantha has that strength anymore. I see signs of wear-and-tear on our director from the dark. I think Richtofen plan from the get go is to keep moving, let her tire herself out, and then hit her when she's weak. The song in Ascension had a lot less energy, compared to Der riese's song and Kino's, and she's been chasing them for 5-4 maps, you must have to wonder if 115 has a shelf-life, maybe that's what we'll see.

Good theory, i was thinking of the same thing, but I don't believe Richtofen is doing it to simply to deal with Samantha. Working off an idea i have about the songs i concluded this. I noticed that the songs have a strange correlation with the events that have happened and possibly events that we haven't seen. The CoTD song sticks out,not sung by a woman, and it loses a lot of the vague word play. It's not a message, like I believe the others are, I believe it to be a recounting of Richtofen's "work" and the part at the end is troubling "And I'll control the world, one person at a time." I think Richtofen doesn't want to destroy or stop Sam, but to either control Sam herself, or take her powers from her. The golden rod is definitely a piece of the puzzle, why would he wait until the others were distracted. This couldn't have been a part to fix the teleporter, because we've seen it nowhere else, and we raised it from god knows how many feet of pure ice. This can't be some normal tool, or replacement part to fix the teleporter. It must serve some purpose that the wonderwaffe DG-2 did, otherwise why keep a DG-2 for as long as they did, never use it, then leave it when they went to Shangra-La? Perhaps it has some sort of property to control or contain energy? One can't be sure until Annihilation i suppose.

....well, this is awkward. I can tell you, out of analysis, I theorize some possible things. 1.Monks, out of protest, would set themselves on fire, so it's maybe alluding to monk zombies. I see some Gas Mask Zombies in the crowds. Perhaps Group 935 found their way into shangra-la, and began experiments, to which the monks protested against, which helped Group 935 in their experiment which led to the cultivation of these calcined cretins. 2.The hell hounds carry the same trait(if this is a trait and indeed, not a new fire weapon), and who do we know has history with the hell hounds and has not been seen yet? Who else but Dr. Maxis? I wouldn't be surprised if Maxis makes his debut here as this fiery, and fiendish friend of ours. The theory that Samantha escaped death due to her exposure to 115 could easily be applied to Maxis, since he worked with the stuff frequently, and in an audio clip, says he feels his mind is being affected by the substance. 3.simply an effect to fire, whether it be trap or weapon form. Not everything is fantastic. How ironic though, How I appear here.