Chopper

For completely and utterly destroying zombies. That is all.

Dude I actually agree with what you say. However, glitched leaderboards have been going on for ages, and they must know it's a huge problem. It wouldn't be massive issue to deal with. Along with fixing the glitches, fix the damn leaderboards. If someone is top with like a billion points and no kills it's pretty clear. How much work would it be for them really to remove those scores?

Treyarch have dropped the ball in so many ways for this game. Everyone used to say that they were this great company who listened and all that shit. Crap if you ask me, just a typical game company who care about the bottom line. Bit of a taboo issue on here with the 'relationship' they have with the site, but if that's really true they should be able to take criticism. Guys, your new game has hacked leaderboards less than 2 months after the games release, and you don't care, nor will you ever. Don't pretend you do when you can't even fix the most simple of things.

Seems to be something contradictory going on in here. Someone is claiming it's only the last hoard, where as Matuzz who is normally pretty spot on with stuff like this is saying that it's all zombies in a round. Either way the leaderboards have already been hacked, so not sure what difference this really makes apart from the fact that it's easier to boost now. It all comes down to the fact that Treyarch claim to listen, but have never ever done anything about the glitchers. How damn hard is it to clean up the leaderboards every now and again.

Couldn't agree more with the selfishness caused by this ranking system. I kinda wish they would heavily penalise you if you allow someone to bleed out, if you are in a certain proximity to them. TBH I realised that my thread title is somewhat misleading from my personal opinion, as I don't care about ranks! But I do like stats, even if the stats are only seen by me and my friends, that would be great! Leave game/ disconnect are good things for those that play in random lobbies. Someone told me today that they will leave almost all games immediately the second they get cornered, to ensure they don't get the down on their stats. WTF.

Hey Guys, there have been a multitude of threads on here regarding the ranking system. I thought I would start a new thread to post my personal ideas on how you can improve this system. 1 - weekly, monthly and lifetime stats. This should be fairly easy as it's already been in MP for what, 3 games now. 2 - statistics per gun. You can't get headshots realistically with ray gun, sallies or the war machine. If I play first room challenges, my headshots are close to 90%. If I do a high run attempt, my headshots are close to 0%. These are in MP already, and should be easy enough to implement.

Ok, some interesting results I have now had in 2 different games. Both first room tranzit with 3 players. On both times on the attempt to revive someone I went down without reviving. The other player was got up on the second attempt by my teammate, but then both times I was left to bleed out. On one of the games both me and a teammate bleed out. After these games, the only players who lost quick revive were the ones who were up when I bleed out. There were partial revive attempts in both these games. So the game with 2 bleed outs, the only player who lost it was the one up and running whilst the other 2 were down. So it seems if you let someone bleed out, you lose it. If you are down when someone bleeds out, you don't. The partial revive thing can't be confirmed by me, as I'm not sure whether bleeding out affects this. I can confirm that I partially revived someone, who was subsequently revived by someone else, and I bleed out in the process.

Sorry guys but if the ranking system really affects in a negative way your enjoyment of zombies you probably need to get out more, or at least try a different game. If not then I say get of your arse and do it yourselves, rather than rely on someone else to spoon feed it to you.

Downs are a pretty stupid barometer in some aspects.....anyone who does challenges of any kind will take a lot of downs.

Past 99 coop is possible, but won't appear on the leaderboards.

This is an interesting point - can you gain the higher emblems playing only solo? I will attempt to test this by getting 50,000 or so kills in solo before doing any kind of coop game play.

I think it might take me a bit longer mate, I get at best 2 hours per day, and at least 1/2 the time I'm on it's co-op. I was interested to see if there were any time restrictions, but just don't have the time to dedicate like a week of hardcore play I know I can boost my KD really high, can probably get it close to 1,000 if I really put the effort in. Just not sure if time overrides this anyway, as Julpr mentioned above.

I'm doing a road to commander style series on a clean account. So far 4,000 kills and 10 downs. Have crossed bones atm. Highest round is 38 on Farm. All kills so far on Farm. Will be uploading the series at some point, as I work out exactly how I'm going to do it. I know my KD will stay above 400 the entire time. 1/2 the deaths I got so far were testing stuff so should be pretty limited now. Shugar - I don't play enough to add you mate. The few times I do play I always have a full lobby waiting for me on Live :)

Yeah, double tap 2 is ridiculously overpowered and is much more important than Speed cola now. With DT2 and a Hamr you can clear an entire hoard in around 60 bullets, mid 30s. Crazy.

I thought I would come back to this thread and give some more thoughts after playing a bit more again. I'm not in love with the game, but I am enjoying certain aspects of it. First room Tranzit is lots of fun. Race to 30 on Farm. 4p farm 30 race no bleed outs. Rack em up on Town - 20 start, no doors open, Sallies only. How many kills. Everything else is laborious pretty much. 40 is easy on all maps, but past that it starts to take much too long. Excluding Tranzit obviously. The worse thing about the game though is how much easier it is than BO1. The gaps I can get through are completely stupid. If a zombie comes out of a window you can always get between it and the window. This shouldn't really happen. Maybe Die Rise will change it, who knows. The rest is just kinda bleh to me though. Grief is a bit stupid. Either a 2 hour + game on town is required or using cheap strategies on Farm. Not for me.

1 hour 23 minutes to get to middle of 38. First time trying this strategy and lost all my QRs, 1st on 29, 33, then 2 on 38. All downs cost a little bit of time. I was too cautious in the early rounds and didn't get my monkeys until 20ish, and it took a lot of waiting at the box to get them. If you manage to get monkeys first, and ray gun plus hamr by say 15 you can get to 40 in around 70-80 minutes I would estimate I hadn't needed to use the box at all until the end of 37, and I messed up and ended the round by accident, causing both my downs.

Would be using spawn control in the barn. I have never done it myself, but some friends have. Not for grinding either - one did 51 no QR, ended on 59. The other is possibly still in game - on Saturday night they were pausing for the evening on 52 with a goal of 70. You pretty much don't leave for the first 20-25 rounds, staying initially with the MP5 and eventually using the ray, hamr and monkeys. Drops come at the start of it seems almost every round, and so the first 25 can all be done in less than 2 minutes. Liberal use of monkeys helps more with this, and obviously a bit of luck with the drops helps. Past 20-25 it's a case of starting in the barn to force the spawns all inside, leaving, hoarding, returning, killing, repeating.

Hey Shuga, I hope you didn't take offense to what I said as it wasn't intended. I will be honest, I am considering starting a ChopperShadow account just to mess around with my emblems and then with randoms in future lobbies. You see I play a lot of challenges, take a lot of downs etc. When I play solo, I'm still attempting various challenges and so get more downs. On the odd occasion I do go for a high run, it never feels as fun as playing the challenges. I did all my 40s/50s in the first week of the game, most on local and have not fancied even attempting any of them again. Easiest way to grind would be to play farm solo, you can get to 40 in less than 90 minutes, so around a 2000 KD each game. Doing that over and over would be grinding. Playing multiple coop games however doesn't seem like grinding to me. A bit tougher, and a bit longer to get there with more potential for a load of sudden deaths to destroy your KD. You did happen to say that you had a 'tedious' grind, so I think that's why people are saying what they have been. I do know of a few players who have had the shotties - Steve and his brother both got them, and I do know they had a shit load of messages from randoms just because of the emblems. I wouldn't play with someone in a serious game with the shotties though. Just get a feeling that if shit hit the fan they would protect their KD rather than help you out. That's not to say that some of the randoms out there wouldn't be normal, very good players. Just a very small percentage :)

Ok Ed I was looking at the footage very quickly last night and know that he was revived at least twice before bleeding out, and I'm sure there were some partial attempts. TBH I didn't actually check whether he was finally allowed to fully bleed out, but I'm pretty certain and we were talking about it in a party last night and all thought he had. Easy to check, will do it later today :)

Sorry dude this is not aimed at you, but this is how they are ruining zombies.

Just a note on Quick Revive. Playing a game on Tranzit the other day just messing around on a diner challenge, we purposely let someone bleed out. All still had Quick Revive after this. I will have it recorded somewhere, but really can't be arsed to go find it. Unless I really have to :D

I think you have a point Tom. I've seen another post today claiming he saw someone get to 330 on Kino, and that person now does QA for Treyarch. I have never understood the point of seeking attention on the internet as a troll. What does it add to your life? If the ranking system is designed to be fair and an indication of how good a player does it doesn't seem quite right that after a 6 week break I go from rank 5, blue eyes and knives to nothing, just due to a break.

Wow, you going to get yourself 2 warnings from one post. Not sure I've seen that before. Please do not insult me or others. Please keep this topic on thread otherwise your responses will be deleted.

A fact is something which is indisputable due to having been proven. Proof was developed by Ancient Greeks to ensure than any mathematical theory they thought to be true, could never be disputed. Hence, proven theorum. You have not offered enough evidence for your claims to be facts. I really dislike 'facts' being banded about when they aren't actually facts, especially in the somewhat condescending way you are doing it. I am not disputing that what you are saying is true or false. Unless you have looked at the coding or performed multiple tests you can't claim it.

Reading this thread has made me realise that Treyarch have messed up zombies even more than I originally thought. It used to just be MP with people going on about their KD and how boss they were. I see zombies going the same way. I will never ever get the skulls. The reason is that I play challenges and therefore take a shit load of downs. Well it's not that I could never get them.....I could be a tryhard and get them, but then I would never be able to enjoy zombies again as I would be obsessing about my ranking. Not for me.