candlekiller

Well if you could explain how this could work with the pieces that richtofen is gathering (the vril device and the focusing stone) it would be a very nice theory, besides that it's a good theory and let me be the first to [brains] 's you as I've seen people say it.

Well if we were to get a fourth map pack on W@W then I guess we would only start out with five (and DOA technicaly) and we unlock that by completing the campaign, which would make it like W@W. So to answer your question, we probably wouldn'tve got ascension and five, and DOA, I think that we would have only gotten the two maps (five and DOA) if they released a mp4 for world at war but because they had kino left over so they threw it in. Sorry if I sound repetiteve (or whatever) but it's 3:30 AM here and a LITTLE bit tired.

I agree with thylacine, I don't have enough evidence for myself to say where it starts out, because there is alot pointing both ways... DR had quick revive across the map, SNN had it random, Kino was sunny outside so the sky doesn't have too much relevancy to me, and I remember reading somewhere that zombies overran Area 51 and then our 4 buddies went to the moon, but that's what i've heard, I don't know if it was confirmed or if that was a level description or what... Plus in DR pack a punch was right behind where you spawned. As for it starting on the moon, there is quick revive on the moon (not necessarily in the spawn room if you were to spawn on the moon) and so did all the other black ops maps and this IS a black ops map. Also you can see the PaP in area 51 and in all the BO maps it didn't spawn in the spawn (except for CotD but that varied) Believe what you wan't, but we will all find out (or at least xbox players will) on the 23rd.

He is white, that's just the way the lighting and the dirt that makes him look darker, I can't really tell who that is but I think that it's tank, not sure though.

I noticed at 1:38 a zombie dropped a "drop" while jumping, I could've sworn I noticed the drop moving... Could it be that if a zombie is moving the drop would move along with it possibly with the same velocity? I can just see it now, you flying through space and a zombie is flying at you, your teammate then shoots the zombie, he drops a nuke, it flies into you and all the zombies explode beneath you, epic.

So IF CotD was already planned while they were doing der riese, they could have just as easily have been planning shangri-la and moon so they could've and probably already did put in clues for moon which means that the theory of them updating the maps when they download moon is basically a bust

Well I reading a topic about the interview with JZ (Jimmy Zelinski) by BlackOpsTryHard whom he credited to OneOfSwords and MrRoflWaffles (sorry I'm kind of rambling, just trying to give credit where credit is due) and JZ said something about checking back on the WaW maps/ classic maps. I remember seeing a picture of a lighthouse on der riese (or der reise ) and I was wondering if it was always there or if that was updated a little bit before CotD was released. Could it be that when we download/redownload the map pack that it could update that and change one of the maps to give us a tidbit of info about moon? Maybe this is overcomplicated but it wouldn't be very hard (or so I think). Is the lighthouse picture in the WaW version of der riese or just in the Black Ops version? Will we have to look over all the maps once moon is out? I will look over a few of them, probably the latter classic maps and possibly kino to take a look at the pictures on the walls. Of course there is ascension that we would have to think about seeing as how they are probably strongly connected.