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So anyone else getting a TranZit vibe with this map? Seems like it's going to be a huge map that they'll split it up like TranZit. I mean, it's gotta be huge if this giant metal man is in it, especially if it moves around...

Simple question. Like Mule Kick being added to all Black Ops maps, would you like Vulture Aid added to all Black Ops II maps? This includes: - TranZit -- Bus Depot -- Town -- Farm - Nuketown - Die Rise - Mob of the Dead - Buried - Any future maps added For me I would chose that to be added to all maps (except Bus Depot maybe) over the other perks. I think it's main effect (showing points of interest) is a nifty feature. The ammo/point bags and the zombie clouds are not too over powered that it would be game breaking. So what are your thoughts?

Really? Huh, go figure. I guess it was just changed that you can get Revives after the machine disappears. You know how you can change power-ups? This also applies to the Bonus Points you get from the bank. It doesn't change colours, so you can get a blue Max Ammo, Nuke, Fire Sale, etc. The effect is still the same, but it's kinda humorous as it looks like some of the Turned power-ups, and it's just odd seeing blue power-ups.

Not sure if this is new to Buried or Black Ops 2. But I never used the Quick Revive machine, and it still disappeared after earning 3 Quick Revive Random Perk Bottles. In Black Ops, wasn't it that the machine stayed as long as you didn't buy from it and only got your power-ups from Random Perk Bottles?

Nice find! I would not have picked that. I don't really know what to say about it. Not that much info so I can't really speculate on it.

Very nice explanation Matuzz. That actually makes some sense. If this truly is a prequel map, I'm a little worried about Richtofen. This is before he touched the M.P.D, and before Treyarch started to give him more comic relief quotes Kino onwards. I'm worried they'll forget or retcon this, so Richtofen will be more like his Black Ops 1 & 2 self, than his World at War self. His voice should be like in the radios, not high like in the maps. Ugh, even more questions. By CotD radios, it seems like he only just met Dempsey. Unless they all just walk away after this and not realise they all fought together here years later lol.

Well they actually have alluded to future maps. Black Ops was rife with quotes about the moon. In this instance I don't think it's anything. But I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in the quotes.

Yes and no. I'm pretty sure DLC 4 will have MP maps with it. I mean, they don't HAVE to have MP maps, but a lot of people brought the Season Pass for Multiplayer, not Zombies. I can't imagine Treyarch pulling a dick move and pissing half the fan base off. As "DLC 5" or micro-transactions, I can see it. I would prefer they work on new maps rather than old, but they could easily release these over Ghosts to give BO2 some more life-span.

Thanks! Can only see the Takeo resemblance honestly, but if this many people are adamant it's the O4... Anyway, it's nice to see some Group 935/German conspiracies again.

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I am so confused lol. This raised a lot of questions. I didn't recognise any of them (maybe cause of their age), but can someone post a picture of them and show who each person was? I honestly thought it was Reznov and some other people. Showing the old maps is interesting, and the exclusion of "Five" and Call of the Dead is even more interesting. I've said this before, but those wouldn't be included because of the royalties and such Activision would have to pay since they are real people ("Five", CotD) and actors (CotD). Unless of course a NDU/Verruckt thing happened like in Black Ops. I am a little worried about the beginning and end thing. This looks like the beginning, so what, when and where is the end? And is it the end of Zombies? The O4? The N4? The Maxis/Richtofen saga? It has me worried as the N4's story is definetly not done, as well as other aspects. Hopefully Elena is coming back. I also hope we haven't heard the last of Clark. Looks chockfull of story goodness. The giant metal man aspect is interesting. Just hope they play it out correctly. Oh and forgot to mention, who will be in control? Lucifer?

Updated with Entry 17 and Al's Journal. Will update the main post with more information about each one soon.

Regarding the power-up forever trick, would this be considered a glitch or not? I mean, it doesn't seem like an intended feature. But I wouldn't want to start using it for high rounds and be called a glitcher.

Just curious, does anyone actually know the point of the Nav Cards? I mean, it just seems like they add nothing unique to the maps, and that they were added for the sake of being added.

I don't like the lack of Russman votes. I know he's generally a favourite out of the N4. I voted Misty, Edward and Sarah. Out of the other groups, I'd choose Salvatore, and probably John F. Kennedy.

I tend to use BSZombie's Trample Steam Strategy. viewtopic.php?f=148&t=30155 It tends to work for me, however sometimes I'll get caught on my way back. So depending on where Juggernog has spawned depends on where I place the TS. If it is at the stairs, I'll leave it where BSZ has described it. If it is at the other spawns (Corner, or Power Room Elevators), I place the TS by the ledge where you run, so it will launch you to the Corner Elevator. Easy Jug access. Of course if it isn't there and you're in Who's Who, you'll just have to make do. You tend to get there alright though. But if Who's Who runs out, or if you used Quick Revive, than you can just keep running laps till you get what you need.

Wow, I didn't actually know about all the WaW maps. But when I think about it, it was just a bonus mode back than so it makes sense. And the reasoning for Mob of the Dead does make sense too. I guess I was just curious when some people mentioned CotD and Shangri-La as Campaign Team maps.

I see people saying that Der Riese and Mob of the Dead and possibly other maps were made by the Campaign Team. And while I don't doubt that, is there any actual evidence that says they did? Like a video or a tweet perhaps? It just seems like people are saying it because everyone else was saying it.

Pareidolia. We All Fall Down is creeping up their though. Honourable mention to Not Ready To Die. If we're talking the 3rd party songs (not made for Zombies), than Nightmare hands down.

The only reason he retweeted those ones is because he likes the O4 over the N4. Just basically trying to stir the pot and gain support in wanting them back, so he can tell his buddies in Zombies that he got "support". Originally after the eggs, I thought that it wouldn't be possible to have the N4 again, with the varying differences between each. That we'd play as the O4. And while that still may hold true, after playing The Last Of Us MP and seeing how the Hunter/Firefly mechanics work, I can see an alternative with the N4. So if you had done Maxis, Orange eyes. If you had done Richtofen, Blue eyes. A bit hard when you've done one and your friend has done the other. But it actually isn't! - If you have all done Maxis, everyone would see Orange eyes and the Easter egg (for Maxis or whoever) would be enabled. - If you have all done Richtofen's, everyone would see Blue eyes and the Easter egg (for Richtofen or whoever) would be enabled. - If there's a mix (P1 & P2 Maxis, P3 & P4 Richtofen), zombie eyes would be Orange for Maxis players (P1 & P2) and Blue for Richtofen players (P3 & P4), as well as their respective Announcer. Easter egg would be disabled. This would basically keep the same fluent gameplay available to all in Public Matches, regardless of choice. - If you hadn't done the egg, eyes would stay Blue for Richtofen, but the egg is disabled. This basically gives everyone the same and fair experience, and makes the possibility of the N4 playable still possible.

The only dislike I really have is the ranking system and how it "classes" you. That Custom Matches don't save your score. The fact that there isn't much backstory for the maps (Die Rise), that Survival/Grief characters have no dialogue, etc. Only small things really. I commend Treyarch for breaking the mold though. I like that they introduced a new group, because the O4's quotes were kinda starting to get stale, old and repetitive. Buildables were a nice feature (they kinda started with "Five" and Moon), Grief is fun, Turned could've been executed better. As far as maps, nothing really wrong with the layout. The lava is a tad annoying in TranZit though.

Well see, there's gotta be a reason why he wanted back on the physical realm as well as controlling the zombies. Not to mention, Maxis did mention Samantha in Eddy's side. So there's the possibility he will go to Agartha. And he also mentions returning to Samuels body in a bit. That's all I got for his side honestly.

Gersch still ascended from darkness, literally and metaphorically, and well so did the marines in NDU. The darkness is subjective. We still don't completely understand the Aether. Some consider it as dark as hell, and some don't. It depends on how Treyarch view it, not us. Anyway my point was to show you that the similarities you used with Albert and Lucifer can be seen elsewhere as well. And Requix, I'll do it when I'm on my computer haha.

I think there is some sort of story to continue with Richtofen's, just not as much as to go on like Maxis. I dunno, I kinda feel like Treyarch dug themselves a hole with this divergent egg. I'm sure Treyarch will work it out fine, but still...

Even though he is being a little arrogant, can we actually discuss the theory? More than 50% of the posts have nothing to do with it. I don't like Benn, but if he hadn't of mentioned PTG, than this would have more civilised. Lets stop talking about the person, and actually about the content. So the one thing I agree on is that their is a bigger entity, the one you call "The Blackness". I personally think it's the Devil myself, however that's just a theory of mine. The whole Weasel ascending from darkness does kinda reference Lucifer, but well, so did Gersch after the Casimir Mechanism Easter Egg. It has its ties, but I don't think they are strong enough to say Albert is like him/going to be like him. I mean, I know it's a theory and it could be right. But I just don't see enough evidence to consider it strongly. Still, crazier things have happened.