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I'm going to get my moneys worth with this game & playing everything including MP. I DID buy MW3 and it really wasn't great & it was as if I was playing the same game all over again just with a few new features, there was nothing special about it which is why I think that IW need to stop. BLOPS II won't be the same as BLOPS with all of these additions but with the assumption that MW3 was the same as MW2 & Black Ops it's only natural for people to think that BLOPS II will follow suit. So yes removing IW (I prefer Treyarch if you can't tell) would remove the assumptions, I believe I read somewhere that Sledgehammer games are making the next one, so we'll see how that goes.

GREAT THREAD AGAIN JAY! I am limited as I don't OWN Ascension, COTD or Shangri-La but have played them elsewhere so I know little about them other than watching vids etc. Your Personal Favourite Map? For now it will always be Der Riese even though I've been having some bad games there lately, Verruckt is a close second though so it could change. Least favorite map? If I had to choose it would be NML (if you count that as a map). It is a great map and I have been playing it a lot recently (solo) but it's been irritating me how I can't get to 100 kills (74 is my record which annoys me to). I'd like to think I'm a decent player as I can train and revive very well. It's just the ways I die which really pee me off :evil: DOGS are one irritation, so is the bloommin mustangs, I rarely PAP these as I just can't use them, I blow myself up. Best part of Black Ops? If this wasn't zombies specific then the campaign story! If it is then I would have to say achieving the Moon EE with three randoms! This was also the first time I officially completed a BIG EE It felt good! Best designed? All maps are AMAZINGLY designed to play to different play styles, if you twisted my arm then it would have to be a toss up between Five and Der Riese, Five has all the different levels and the basement is the most chaotic place, if someone downs on another floor many peoples reaction is to run into the teleporters, the best thing about this is they're random so you could end up playing the teleporter game which is great fun! Der Riese is just great, the whole linking of the teleporters making you run from one end to the other is great, it would've been better if it was bigger but it is a good designed map. Most fun with drunk friends? N/A, don't drink. Favorite challenge? I don't tend to do challenges, I need others to do them... I may try the one door challenge later and see what happens, I'll keep you updated. Funniest moment? I enjoy it when you troll 10 year olds with mics on Five by leaving them by using an elevator, their responses make me laugh. I'm normally a team player so if there aren't any whiny kids then I'll let them in to leave them with a train of zombies :twisted: If I'm feeling especially devious (you know when you're in those moods to just have a good time instead of focusing on higher rounds) I also enjoy running trains into people on Five by running into a tele and hopefully going into the basement and watch the person run into the way any I leave them with my zombies. It is rare I do this but at times I just find it funny. Most annoying boss preventing success? The astro on moon (the only one I've got with a boss) if he gets in the way of my trains through a door way (as in IN THE DOOR WAY) then that's game over... done, can't go back and if I get caught then I either get swiped by all the zombies and die or get teled then die. Creepiest place? Shi No Numa, ever since I heard the EE (the recording voice) and the song (the part before you activate it saying "I know when you're sleeping") just always leaves me on edge, I feel like something is going to happen...

To me it looks like something has just disintergrated, probably a zombie. I think this is a zombie boss that can disappear and re-appear through cables. I now have an thought that every area has a specific 'boss'. The denizens in the forest/dwellers/scavengers. The electricity boss in this der-reise styled area. This would make sense then with the survival maps each having a boss. I don't think it is an EMP bomb, I think it would be that bright.

I just want to point something out from another achievement: I Don't Think They Exist 10 In TranZit, kill one of the denizens of the forest while it is latched onto you. The definition of a denizen is: An inhabitant of a place, or one who dwells in a place, whether local, regional or national. Does this mean that these only dwell in the forest and are only in that area. Would that also mean that only specific zombies are in specific areas?

Oh.. I've gone and put together an image now I'll edit it in photobucket Anywho here is the edited image: I was going to say that it doesn't really look like Nolan but people have said it could look like George Romero! He has the same hair flick and beard and the glasses (on the black ops version) do look pretty similar.

WOW! A lot to look at. They really have taken everything and changed it up A LOT. One thing I still don't get is the prestiging in the game. What is a level progression token & are we just going to carry on instead of prestiging?

EDIT, Spoilers are now fixed If it is a leak then sorry!

Great thread. EDIT 3- Spoilers Fixed. I may put more in later but this'll do for now!

I think that she is always wearing the hat and putting it through that little hole in the hat. Not sure if I've explained it right but I just think that it is the same throughout. It would be quite a fun idea though!

I believe there is more than this. I think they've shown us the bus route, you don't have to follow the path, there are probably some hidden areas and locations that may unlock survival maps or something along those lines so I reckon they'll be more. The longer you survival TranZit the more survival maps you unlock!

Agreed! The trailer was blooming brilliant! Roll on November

I presume you're talking about TranZit (you could include Nuketown Zombies too). I'm guessing 9 including NK. Remember you don't always have to take the bus route! All the map is showing is the route the bus takes, there could be more away from the route. Walking into the mist would give you more dangers but more rewards!

Okay I'm going to put it straight. This is my opinion and I may get stick for it but here we go. This is what zombies needs! Would you want to go through with Rich and Sams story for the whole of BLOPS II, TBH what more do they have to offer other than getting Sam back in her body (story wise)? The whole process was to get Richtofen into the MPD, he now holds the cards. Don't get me wrong it WAS a good storyline and it WILL continue but at the moment something else needed to happen. We need to see the side effects of what Richtofen has done, we also need a change of Tak, Rich, Demp and Nik. I'm not ruling them out or saying they were bad I'm just saying you probably wouldn't be able to carry on their story for too long without going through time travel or finding items and all that, it wouldn't really make sense. EEs will be there to tie them in, also you may like these characters better so don't judge a game by its trailer. To conclude rant: If you want the zombie storyline to last longer then we need to go down this route (by bus ), radios and EEs will probably connect with the four but for now zombies needs to be re-directed to keep it going & making it last longer. It WILL all tie in in the end, trust me. Well that's my opinion done! You all have your opinions & if you're disappointed then that's your opinion. Sorry but this is what I think personally.

Analyzing time

That machine looks like the new WW, it looks very heavy though.

Oh... I see what you did there Now I finally know! I was going to say "Give up the GHOST!" but thought it was corny. Anyway, I shall begin the analysis of their organs immediately, a choice of two threads to post on... hmmm. Also Grief! BRING IT ON! This is so going to take up my days off. Glad I'm only at college for three days!

The Joystick article that Lian posted says "Lamia promises players (playing solo or up to four-players co-op) can traverse on foot or via the bus" for Tranzit Also: "(solo or as a 4-player co-op experience)" for survival So does this mean that only 4z4 is the only eight player mode? (so far of course!)

Also no one pointed out that zombies can jump! I'm know it is obvious but yeah! Would bring a new dynamic :D

YES! I have to disagree with CrimsonZombie by saying that I like this addition, it really is a survival of the fittest and competition would be good for zombies!

Brill!!! I enjoyed the trailer alot! Seriously though why hasn't anyone noticed this yet? A lot of questions have been asked on the reveal thread and many of the things that you've put here would probably answer their questions! I'll post some of my finds later tonight but I'm sure I've seen that guy somewhere before. It's honestly irritating me. One thing I would like to point out is on your speed cola photo on the floor you can see a crawler (I think) so that confirms them Great thread!

Okay...here we go. Since BLOPS II details started coming through we got some hints towards zombie maps. For many it started here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy17fTZriog Here we got a view of a town which brought a few speculations and theories about a dinner and a church which was suitably called "The Map" (NOT my image!, taken from google as couldn't find the forum version) We now go ahead in time and we turn up at the reveal of the hardened and care package edition of BLOPS II. This revealed to us a new zombie map Nuketown Zombies! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcijQmOkam8 Now skip to the present, we've been given 4 (almost 5) audio files along with a sneaky preview of zombies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVxDid8qMgA So I want to ask you throughout all of this which fits where. Is Nuketown zombies the map Treyarch are giving us as a preview? (the bus could be perceived as the bus from Nuketown along with some of the recent screen shots) ^ That red car coming from the wall could be the one from Nuketown. Is "The Map" the map we're seeing in the preview as one HUGE map that can be accessed via bus as it is too big to walk around? OR are these simply three maps that stand alone? "The Map", "Nuketown Zombies" and "The bus driver map" Bear in mind though we do have the addition of 4z4 maps & traditional maps so one or more of these maps could be specific. (so the map could be a 4z4 as it did look like it had enough space and a decent layout) Tell me what you think about all this!

It's an intro within an intro within an intro... inception! :shock: Hello & Welcome!!! :D

I haven't seen the leaks so I presume I'll just go on speculating! It looks like it says RIP (as many of you have said) with a name below it ending in 'RA' With maybe an E before it. Could this possibly be a door or as Liam in his vid said part of the EE. To me it doesn't look like a perk MACHINE as wouldn't the machine have something to dispense the bottle out of? It could also be a spawn point after you die... *OFF TOPIC: That zombie looks SO detailed, it's amazing.

These are practically the same but it could mean several things. 1) Are we going back to the future again (as in a hint at the time setting (the future))? 2) Are we playing as the characters from back to the future? 3) Are we going to 1955? (I don't think that would make much sense though) Great link though! I don't think this is a coincidence.

It would fit nicely as a perk song, I like this idea. Maybe it's been overloaded with electricity. MAYBE this has something to do with that thing on the bus, he is your ticket to making everything work or something, it make things more challenging... I prefer the electric boss idea though :| EDIT: Yeah, I guess that just stands for Zombies or something though. Like, you have "DayZ", "The War Z", etc. Although it may just as well mean something else, who knows. Probably.