5and5

I've never unlocked Charges Set but I've got 22.2 on Stay Sharp with pistols only.

WTF jloves2game is MrDeerHead. I've been sub to his channel for so long and had know idea haha. I got that 304 a long time ago, back when 303+ was top 50. I guess since then my brain just morphed it in to 306 :P

My highest NML is 306 same as you Dougie_All_Day97 No video though but I'm sure any one on my xbox friends list can confirm it. The only NML video I have is the Ultimate Rape Train Challenge. Was this what you were talking about way2g00? 39ldC5V4d2I

Yes he does have the greatest force of all bosses but he has more than just the power of the thundergun he also has the power of greshs, space monkeys and of doing a perfect michael jackson moon walk :P

I dont know what i was thinking 20 seconds for them to spawn... You guys are right like 5 seconds to spawn and maybe like 10 till they are all out of the windows. Anyways for getting to 40+ so you can try the ak, you could use spawn as way2go said. In my opinion its the safest way of playing shang besides running the map.

The macro's you said may be unfair for NML like a 4 shot then knife for the first beep then an 8 shot then knife for the second but I would have no problem with you using them in just a regular game of zombies.

I would think it would be about 10-20 seconds depending on the map and location. But to actually test it would pretty difficult the only way I can think of doing it would be to kill a horde then go into no clip and watch the spawns from above. Good question, I would love to know how long you would have to wait on kino till you could go to next trap?

lolz I remember that, but don't remember how I ended up adding you anyways ill send you author friend request maybe we will play this time :D

Yes I have, only on low rounds though but I'm sure if both of you rebuild a window then the white player starts the train it would work very similar to the solo strat.

My opinion of the Astronaut is that he is 3arc's WORST attempt at making a middle round boss. He has nothing to do with the story line and doesn't help you in any way. What he does do is prevents player from playing moon (a would be very well designed map without him) the way they want. For example in solo he makes training in tunnel 6 and 11 literally impossible which only leaves only two other options bio dome or spawn. Or in co op he makes camping just silly and training any were but the bio dome not work to well. Now that's not the only reason why I say he is the worst. Its also because of all the glitch's that come with him. Here lets make a list. 1. If you kill him to much then every time after when you throw a gersh he will start moon walking at you and not stop till you kill him. 2. You can use his grab to get under the map. 3. You use his explosion to get into invisibility spots. 4. You can use his teleportation powers with the pads in the bio dome, to get over the teleporter fence. Therefore setting up the greatest glitch of all time... Round Skipping Every Round! 5. Now here's the best one if you are in mid air when he spawns then he will stand in one place doing a dance on till you kill him. thanks 3arc Now please tell me what you think of this slow walking, name/perk stealing, magically teleporting, untruly killable zombie in a space suit?

I don't think console zombies have any less in health but what I think you are feeling is directly related to the movement speed decease. This is because M&S do maximum damage if you shoot the ground directly under the horde and not the horde it self. Therefore on pc because you are so close to the horde while trying to shoot its much, much harder to hit the sweet stop constantly. At least that's what I think as with a good start on xbox I can normally get 300+ kills but on pc with a good start I can't even get 300 and that not for a lack of trying... Still can't believe that you got 333 kills. That's got to be the pc record.

Hey its 5and5 First I would like to say I don't think any console is actually "better" than a gaming PC. But there are some major difference's between the xbox/ps3 version of Black Ops and the PC version. These difference's are very favorable to xbox/ps3, thus the title. Ok to what they are, well basically on xbox when you are holding a pistol you move at 110% speed in all directions, right? So on PC dont you think it would be the same, wrong. On pc if you are holding a pistol you will move at 110% looking forwards but if you turn around and look backwards towards the zombies your speed will drop down to 80% (not 100% sure on this number but that's what it feels like). This is even worse with a LMG, as you all ready walk at 80% speed forward. So when you turn around this drop to speed slower than a zombie. For example lets say you have jugg and speed with an HK-21 and a full horde behind you If you tried to look at the zombies while reloading you would die before finish the reload. Now don't take just take my word for it, go check out this video and see it for your self... r8R6_OYY41E Now that I've scared every console player away from pc . I got to say don't be, it not as big as deal as it may look. As long as you know about the speed decrease its easy to work with and even if you didn't most high round strats don't require looking back. For poof just look at all the pc player that I bet never know about this that have been to round 100 SuperHands, Tom, Pish, Drac and Swask these are just names that come off the top of my head. So don't get the wrong idea from this post its not about get people think PC is worse but more about spread awareness of the problem. Plus to show how much 1337 skills pc takes . So to any of you console player that are thinking of switch to pc DO IT. I did and it was totally worth it OK back on topic, other difference's I have noticed: -There is no knife lung animation only the slash on pc. -There mite be a little more range on the pc knife. That or the lack of lung makes it feel longer. -Because of points above its possible to knife a zombie and NOT get the power up that he will drop (this may be possible on xbox but I have never done it...) -On pc in solo you can pause and restart during the death screen. -On xbox there is extra space around were the perks are and on the other side. If there is any other difference's I missed or incorrect information please let me know. Thanks, 5and5

Hehe very funny Tom, 33 down isn't that bad for 66 :p

I've have seen both Ehjookayted and Superhands posts they are both extremely well done. Also I have know SuperHands since a little bit after I started youtube he was the first person to leave a comment over 5 words . Way2g00 I would love to play some time, I used to watch your steam all the time until it was only mw3 . If you guy like my first post, then you should go check out my first youtube video. When I start something I like to start it with a BANG. Here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ldC5V4d2I

Thanks a lot everyone, you really know how to make a guy feel welcome. p.s. got something not so good to show tomorrow.

Hey CODz love the site! Not many of you know me but I've been around for a while, never really replied or posted any thing though :?. I've used Way2g00's horde count chart count less amount of times as well Duckcall00's Zombie charts. Just a mouth ago I got Black Ops for pc (Didn't just start playing zombie though) and started a youtube channel about the same time. I'm up to 12 subs now and about half i got in the past week . I love all kinds of music mostly old skool hip hop and rock, but I also listen to smooth jazz and maybe some dustep at times. I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Lately I have been trying to find newer, better, faster ways of playing all the maps. I've found a few but still looking for more . Well that's about all I got to say about my self thanks for reading. Always down to play some co-op Zombos!!! Steam: 5and55 Xbox: iiFrooogle PSN: I don't play zombies there sorry YouTube: Zomb0s4life My Highest Zombie Rounds: Kino Der Toten: 50 solo, 55 co-op Five: NA solo, 35 co-op Ascenion: 50 solo, 55 co-op Call Of The Dead: NA solo, 40 co-op Shangri La: 65 (highest) solo, 34 co-op Moon: 64 solo, 30 co-op Nacht der Untoten: NA solo, 24 co-op Verruckt: NA solo, 39 co-op Shi No Numa: 44 solo, 34 co-op Der Reise: NA solo, 44 co-op (WaW) NML: 306 Kills Thanks, 5and5

Hey its 5and5, and this is my first post here So I'm sure all of you guy know about running circles in the bio dome and most of you know about super hands spawn train as well as the tunnel 11 train. But what some of you might not know is that you can also do a very safe train in tunnel 6's mpl room. I developed and refined this train my self and am proud to say it was a success. Comparing this to the bio dome its way better in all ways . Comparing this to tunnel 11 its the same speed and probably a little safer (Unless you run tunnel 11 my way then its slower). Comparing this to Recieving Bay its about as safe but can take a little longer for some hordes. Ok into the actually strategy. You should not try this till 35+ you still can train in the mpl before that but its not very safe trust me. Once its round 35 and you want to try this the key is to rebuild the same way as seen in the video. As long as you rebuild properly all the zombies should round up nice and easy. I did it with the door to spawn close but if you open its NOT a strat killer, the only different is that maybe 2 or 3 zombies will spawn out there. Here the video iTQE2jdWxUk Link to my way of running tunnel 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP-BkjYH ... re=channel Thanks