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Speaking of which, I'm pretty sure Brutus's roar is the same audio file as George's.

Yes I know that but it seems the only way to turn on a perk is to zap the panel near it while in afterlife mode. I don't think the main power panel affects them at all.

Quick Revive is gone but when you revive yourself it's twice as fast as if you had Quick Revive. Also Speed Cola is in the map as well, I haven't seen it while playing but you can clearly see it in the 6 minute trailer

I'd most compare it to Die Rise. Like Die Rise it is very tight-quartered and has a lot of different areas. However unlike Die Rise it is not a very linear map, there are a lot of different paths to take. It seems to be bigger than Die Rise, too.

So if you turn on a perk and then turn on a different one, does the first perk turn off again? And also does the main power switch even affect the perks?

From what I can tell it's the same. It seems like it'll actually be helpful in this map because of how tight-quartered it is. Also, PHD is back... but only in Grief. I hope they never truly bring it back, it's such a ridiculously overpowered perk.

I think the reason they got rid of PHD is because 1. They want to force us to use weapons rather than bellyflopping for the first 20 rounds; which, let's face it, was pretty ridiculous. And 2. They wanted to stop people from using the incredibly cheap M&S strategy.

You lose it by getting down twice in one round.

You lose it by getting down twice in one round.

Not sure if this is generally known yet, but I've discovered if you complete a Minion round using only melee weapons, you will get the free perk powerup. Just fyi.

Ok I'll look for it, thanks. Btw anything new in the box? No. There is a new wonder weapon thought! Ik I've used it it's so fun. :D

Does anyone know if Mule Kick has its jingle now? (the "El Burro" song found in Moon's files) Edit: Tested it myself, the jingle IS there this time. :)

They obviously hyped it up on purpose. They could've simply said "go the roof before round 2".

Ok I'll look for it, thanks. Btw anything new in the box?

I'm really liking this map. The one thing I don't like much is that they brought back the Max Ammo rounds; I've always thought they made things too easy. Also, the AN94 is pretty overpowered for a wall weapon.

I've seen everything in the map except for the box. Where is it?

Hopefully something like the WaW Zombies trailers, a good mix of cinematics and gameplay set to the easter egg song. I'm so hyped and I know 3arc will give us something awesome. I can't wait! xD

I highly, highly, HIGHLY doubt that 4Z4 will be on MP maps. As far as I know 4Z4 is just like regular Zombies, but with twice the players and 2 seperate teams of survivors. If Treyarch has any common sense, they will keep Zombies and MP seperate.

Same here! Is it just me, or do Activision discs seem to be less durable than other game discs?

Curious to know how many here are actually CoD fans outside the realm of Zombies. I often see people saying, "only getting BO2 for the Zombies" and stuff like that. I would consider myself a minor CoD fan outside of Zombies. CoD multiplayer is usually fairly fun and definitely addicting, but from a critical perspective it's nothing spectacular, and the formula has definitely gotten stale over the years. And the campaigns, let's face it, they're not much other than mediocre side dishes, although I'll admit BO had an interesting story. So how bout you? Are you a CoD fan outside of Zombies, and why or why not? And if yes, how big of a fan would you consider yourself?

I think Treyarch should release a Zombies trailer just before release to get some hype built up just in time. I think it was a big mistake when they released absolutely no Zombies footage before the BO release, it made Zombies not get the hype it deserved. And then they released an awesome Kino music video trailer at CoD XP that would have been perfect for pre-release hype. Seriously Treyarch, wtf?