Edward Richtofen

Care to explain why they are not present on PS3 then?

It's all wishful thinking. How long did it take people to figure out these more involved and longer EE's? Cotd, Shang, Moon all were finished within days. To think there's meaningful steps left after a month and 10 days is little far fetched considering this game came with more hype and more EE hunters than ever before. Feel free to continue hunting, but at some point all of you will quit searching, one by one. And I hope you prove me wrong but I just dont see it happening. Game files mean nothing btw, they most likely kept a lot of the old coding in case they release a classic map pack again.

The fact that hacker is in the game code doesn't prove anything. I doubt there is hacker hidden anywhere as it would have been found by now.

Think you made a typo Cause they suck at running trains and will get downed repeatably, thus pushing down their rank and k/d, forcing them to lose their grossly inflated stats and means of talking shit to players that are wholly better then them.

They can't help you find the EE continuation because there isn't one. Let's face facts if there was a continuation someone would have found it by now. and shang isnt on Mars

Bring back the VR-11!!!!!! ^ best wonder wonder ever made, even better since the nubs all thought it was worthless :twisted:

Yeah I dont think anything can top the Gersch personally. Lethal, useful for gaining some time, and even a teleportation device; the gersch has it all. But don't hate too hard on the EMP. It has lots of uses. You can put all the zombies in sleep mode and go take a nap if you wish .

Wasn't this reticle in Black ops zombies as well?

Diner survival would be depressing. I'm sick of these of small survival maps. :|

I found it funny that both sides of the EE are effectively doing the same thing even though they are trying to achieve opposite ends. :lol:

I like your thinking, however, it doesn't really make sense to talk about obtuse angles on an ellipsoid. You could take 3 points on the surface of the ellipsoid and talk about the angle it creates but thats not what you're doing here. You're taking a conic section from it. I think the considering Maxis' quotes that we are dealing with a three point system. The two "obtuse vertices" statement I believe to be an oversight by treyach or will make sense in later DLC when the system is made larger. Also he speaks of obtuse vertices, not angles, which is inherently wrong language to begin with. Otherwise, they mean they are two vertices which create an obtuse angle, Not 2 obtuse angles.

Yeah whats the saying? Glitches are for bitches? Luckily I haven't run into any lobbies using this glitch but I have heard of it and I despise barrier glitches, as they're usually used by the worst of the worst then will talk shit about how much better they are than you :roll: . Good luck with the solo EE hunt, but I'm pretty confident that neither can be completed with less than 2 people. A interesting thing to note however: You could complete either EE up to the point when two players are needed in a custom match. And then beg your friend list to join the game and help you finish .

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I know levels refer to emblems. I've gotten a few rank corrupted messages. lvl 1 = one bone lvl 2 = two bones lvl 3 = skull lvl 4 = knife lvl 5 = shotguns

Yeah you can activate hell hounds on custom games.

Don't see why not, but I heard it just makes a really colorful tower.

I don't know anymore. I flipped back and forth between: "the EE is done" and "the EE is not done" for some time now. There may be steps we're missing on Maxis side, which would interesting but they can't be that groundbreaking if they weren't even necessary. If its not done, I hope someone figures it out and soon. For myself, I think I'm going to shift my focus onto high round runs and strategies.

In my experience it will always only show two players as having the navcard, even if everyone has it.

Maxis requires two turbines so I think the chance that it can be completed solo is very slim. Even if you could find a way around trapping the electric guy solo, you would still fail trying to finish the EE.

Hey Clancy, I'll do Richtofen with you, as long as the lag isn't too bad. You can do it with 2 people.

Do I believe the EE could be over? Sure. Do I think the EE is over? Not sure. The fact of the matter is, the EE is not very long on either side (Maxis especially). Would this monster of a map, with all the different facets and secrets be over so quickly. Maxis is literally 3 steps...Richtofen is longer but still short compared to other maps. Lets look at the EEs that led to TranZit... COTD: Longer than Tranzit. EE done after achievement. Receive DG-2 Shangri-La: EE much longer than TranZit. Done after achievement (supposedly). Receive focusing stone for 1 player. Moon: EE much much longer than TranZit. EE not done after first achievement. Receive focusing stones for entire team. So basically we are saying that the EE can be completed within 3 steps, the reward being basically max ammo any round we need it with at least 2 players. (Teleport for drops at spire). Personally, I don't think the EE would be this short considering the precedence set in the previous maps. But you never know, do you? Secondly, things have still been unused in the EE. The navcard machine for one. Why do they even mention it if it has no use? Thirdly, I don't think the DLC will add on to TranZit. It's already too massive as it is. To make it larger would be ridiculous! So unless the navcards stay on your character and are needed in the next location, they have no use. Even if they do stay, it doesn't explain why a navcard reader is in TranZit in the first place. Now there are also good reasons why the EE is over. A lack of unused sound clips in the game files. The fact that a new step hasn't been found in ages. Both Richtofen and Maxis basically tell you its over. This is why I remain undecided on the subject. I wouldn't be surprised one way or the other. The main problem I see with most of the EE hunting going on around here though... People are trying to continue the EE when the beams are no longer active. Come on people if the EE continues, you sure as heck need the beams!

Well I'm a math nerd so here goes: 8 streetlights, 2 turbines: 8 choose 2 = 28 possibilities. If you label the streetlights a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h You get the list of ordered pairs: {a,b} {a,c} {a,d} {a,e} {a,f} {a,g} {a,h} {b,c} {b,d} {b,e} {b,f} {b,g} {b,h} {c,d} {c,e} {c,f} {c,g} {c,h} {d,e} {d,f} {d,g} {d,h} {e,f} {e,g} {e,h} {f,g} {f,h} {g,h} 8 streetlights, 3 turbines: 8 choose 3 = 56 possibilities Ordered triples: {a,b,c} {a,b,d} {a,b,e} {a,b,f} {a,b,g} {a,b,h} {a,c,d} {a,c,e} {a,c,f} {a,c,g} {a,c,h} {a,d,e} {a,d,f} {a,d,g} {a,d,h} {a,e,f} {a,e,g} {a,e,h} {a,f,g} {a,f,h} {a,g,h} {b,c,d} {b,c,e} {b,c,f} {b,c,g} {b,c,h} {b,d,e} {b,d,f} {b,d,g} {b,d,h} {b,e,f} {b,e,g} {b,e,h} {b,f,g} {b,f,h} {b,g,h} {c,d,e} {c,d,f} {c,d,g} {c,d,h} {c,e,f} {c,e,g} {c,e,h} {c,f,g} {c,f,h} {c,g,h} {d,e,f} {d,e,g} {d,e,h} {d,f,g} {d,f,h} {d,g,h} {e,f,g} {e,f,h} {e,g,h} {f,g,h} 8 streetlights, 4 turbines: 8 choose 4 = 70 possibities Ordered quadruples: {a,b,c,d} {a,b,c,e} {a,b,c,f} {a,b,c,g} {a,b,c,h} {a,b,d,e} {a,b,d,f} {a,b,d,g} {a,b,d,h} {a,b,e,f} {a,b,e,g} {a,b,e,h} {a,b,f,g} {a,b,f,h} {a,b,g,h} {a,c,d,e} {a,c,d,f} {a,c,d,g} {a,c,d,h} {a,c,e,f} {a,c,e,g} {a,c,e,h} {a,c,f,g} {a,c,f,h} {a,c,g,h} {a,d,e,f} {a,d,e,g} {a,d,e,h} {a,d,f,g} {a,d,f,h} {a,d,g,h} {a,e,f,g} {a,e,f,h} {a,e,g,h} {a,f,g,h} {b,c,d,e} {b,c,d,f} {b,c,d,g} {b,c,d,h} {b,c,e,f} {b,c,e,g} {b,c,e,h} {b,c,f,g} {b,c,f,h} {b,c,g,h} {b,d,e,f} {b,d,e,g} {b,d,e,h} {b,d,f,g} {b,d,f,h} {b,d,g,h} {b,e,f,g} {b,e,f,h} {b,e,g,h} {b,f,g,h} {c,d,e,f} {c,d,e,g} {c,d,e,h} {c,d,f,g} {c,d,f,h} {c,d,g,h} {c,e,f,g} {c,e,f,h} {c,e,g,h} {c,f,g,h} {d,e,f,g} {d,e,f,h} {d,e,g,h} {d,f,g,h} {e,f,g,h} errr good luck... :?

It would be pretty tricky if the turbine parts could be used elsewhere. But it would seem that the fan and the other part would have more usability then the mannequin.

I never understood why people hated it so much. It is a challenge! I but it ct is not easy circles (like most maps) and its got the best atmosphere. The wonder weapon in this map is my fave and if i came back to BLOPS II i would seriously hump the box till i got it (ofc i would still know how to control myself). The zombies and the special ones are just awesome. The easter egg is hard and callenging and frustrating but soooooo worth it! So to Recap: Fave is Shangri la. Challenging, great atmosphere, awesome weapon and zombies Yeah I love shang as well but it can certainly be frustrating. The circles are tight, tight, tight! Easy to go down and the awful lawton seems to have greater delay than other maps. This is not a map to play with randoms, unless you go in expecting to not pap all game and play with that strategy in mind. On the good side, it has an elegant two player strategy and the wonder weapon is fabulous. Challenging and rewarding!!! If I could find more people to run the COTD vr-11 strategy with me, I put COTD at level footing, as that is really an artful cooperative strategy as well.

Woah... Then maybe this is it! Do the richtofen egg... very next game, have all 4 players set down turbines at the 4 lamp posts NOT sending off beams? I think it needs to be in the same game as the ToB. Complete Richtofen and then get all four players to make portals (wormholes) at the posts creating the beams. Obviously try the turbines as well but if you think about it, the power is already on, so what would change by dropping turbines. The portals however seem like a likely trigger. I think the turbines will play a role in the maxis continuation, Im increasingly thinking they have different continuation steps.