Electric Jesus

I appreciate your support greatly. But I can't help but think that you saying "MMX going ballistic" is a little excessively accusatory / mean. He's just passionate. :D

I'm Just saying we can't say with certainty that the date on that piece of paper is the date of the map. It looks like a really old piece of paper, suggesting that the diary or whatever it is is viewed by the player years after it is written. If it was dated, it would likely be dated for the day it was written. But I'm saying the day we interact with it is probably much past the day it was written. The bridge is the main clue to it being in the future relative to the time in which the diary was written.

Can you link so I can see your original idea?

Yes but a claymore alone is a conventional weapon, but a jet turbine certainly is not. Also opinions and subjectiveness are important to a degree. Like I said, where no 100% conclusive evidence can be found, we fill in the blanks with our own ideas. That is what we've always done on little ol' CoDz. Not everyone has the same ideas and there is nothing wrong with that.

Yes but a Spikemore isn't completely original. It is a directional anti-personnel explosive. It's more of an innovation of a pre-existing idea. (an idea which was undeniably NOT unique or original.) however wonderweapons aren't just spin offs of an ordinary weapon. They are completely original concepts, which the Spikemores were not. And you're right about the monkey bombs. I could have sworn I'd heard him say "best wonder weapon to date." hmm.

You're right about the flamethrower, but I meant unique in the sense that--- well, flamethrowers were common during WWII. It wasn't like you'd see a flamethrower and be like OMG A FLAMETHROWER! At least not as much as you would say OMG A ONE-HANDED PLASMA RAY WEAPON! Like, REALLY unique. I should also mention that all of what I consider wonder weapons are original ideas. By the way, I didn't find the EXACT interview I had in mind, but I found one where jimmy Z directly states that Green Run has multiple wonder weapons. http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/view ... 00&t=24722 Edit: what it really comes down to is what each of us believe, at least where no evidence on a certain subject can be found. All we can really do is stand by what we believe in. I respect your beliefs though I disagree with them, and acknowledge that I might never change them, and that's not a bad thing at all.

Sorry... I'm not doing it because I feel like it... I'm doing it because I feel the old definition was possibly inaccurate. Its just-- If the sliquifier doesn't necessarily have 115, and it is a wonder weapon, then wonder weapons don't need 115. Plain and simple. I'm not saying this is true necessarily, but that's basically my opinion / point in the last post. Now following the idea that wonder weapons don't need 115 (which again isn't necessarily true) what are they? 1. Very powerful 2. Unconventional 3. Rare / Unique (I'm sure you can think of more) All 3 black ops 2 ones so far fit the criteria I have listed. Again, if and only if wonder weapons don't necessarily need 115 to be considered a wonder weapon (not 100% confirmed true (nor is the opposite for that matter)), then THIS would make the black ops 2 ones wonder weapons.

By saying that you seem to be implying that the person to whom you were responding is wrong (no matterhow wrong you are.) That seems a little mean and hypocritical, since you just said we're entitled to our opinions... ...sorry if I misinterpreted that... But what I'm saying is that a weapon doesn't need 115 to be a wonder weapon. The sliquifier was directly stated as a wonder weapon. I'm 95% sure the jet gun was too but I can't find a link yet. I remember them saying "this is the most ambitious zombies yet. we have the new mode we like to call 4z4, we are moving to the multiplayer engine, an expansive new world, and arguably the best wonder weapon to date." I'm almost positive they used the exact phrase "arguably the best wonder weapon to date." Anyway, like Mocking said, the sliquifier might not have 115. In fact according to his research (I read his thread on this topic and it's very convincing) it MOST LIKELY doesn't include 115. Yet it is a wonder weapon. So by that logic couldn't we say that the jet gun is a wonder weapon? Technically I don't think the blundergat is one, but upgraded it shoots explosive green acid thingies. It might start out as a realistic (albeit highly unconventional) weapon, but there's no denying its wunderful properties when upgraded. no other upgraded weapon does THAT. So IMO the black ops 2 ones are in fact wonder weapons.

Oh my! Would you look at that down there! This was obviously posted in 1776! July 4, 1776 NOPE. Just because you see a date written down doesn't mean that is the actual date. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but which is more likely? Someone wrote something on an old piece of paper, or the golden gate bridge freaking tore through a rift in the time space continuum?

... Or he hurriedly wrote on a random pre-dated page in an outdated diary he found lying around...

Isn't that green stuff 115? It very well might be. We won't know anything for sure until the map comes out! What about the sliquifier though? Is THAT 115? I'm pretty sure that whole discussion was inconvlusive. Even ince we get this map we might not know. Personally I've gone by what MMX said before about wonder weapons having 115 unupgraded. However, as treyarch identify all 3 black ops weapons as wonder weapons, and none of them have 115, my concept of what a WW is has changed. It is just a really powerful, special, unusual, unconventional weapon. I'm saying this do broadly so that it encompasses black ops 2 weapons as well, as this whole rant is based on my considering BOII ones wonderweapons. That is all.

Revolution Uprising Legion Emergence Don't you see? They could all be stages of a revolt! Revolution - not a specific stage but the thing as a whole. Uprising - the initial riots that start a rebellion Legion - refers to a military unit; shows it's reached a militarized level. Emergence - the rebels win and emerge as a new greater power. Hmm?

Guys I think you're looking into this too deeply. Brutus sounds like Brute, as in one who is brutal. Its really quite obvious. I see a giant zombie monster dude running around screaming and bashing stuff and generally ****ing up our ****, and Immediately think "hey, must be that brute, Brutus!" well i guess it's just me...

I certainly hope he comes in with the other zombies. Would be cool if he punched the other zombies out of his way. Also how do we call him? There is confirmed to be a character called Brutus in MotD voiced by Nolan north (richtofen.) might be the boss guy, but don't quote me. Also I don't know if he is midround or separate, but the devs said he is like "the new George-type boss." but they might have just been referring to the size and speed and power of him.

Maybe the map has 2 modes, survival and MotD. Survival is exactly the same as MotD, with the only difference being that MotD allows the game to actually end. It has separate Leaderboards for escaping as quickly as possible for example. I doubt it but I'm just throwing that idea out.

I think flammenwerfer is right about getting back to your body in time. That makes the most sense. But you can't just enter purgatory anywhere, can you? NOPE. Remember the row of four electric chairs? :twisted:

I doubt it woukd ever actually end. On moon, richtofen makes a joke about how the game never ends. He says something like "muahaha all ze power is mine! I will rule zem all! But not before we finish the game!" Once someone asked jimmy Z why the games never end. His response? "how do you know it doesn't?" he's so sassy.

SOUND FAMILIAR?! Posted in September. Wow, they stole my wonder weapon AND named a perk after me! I joke!

All the major Easter eggs in order are... Fly Trap - Der Riese Casimir Mechanism - Ascension Original Characters Trapped - CotD Eclipse - Shangri-La Richtofen's Grand Scheme - Moon Tower of Babble - Green Run High Maintenance - Die Rise

You can do the Der Riese fly trap, but it doesn't have a reward. Unless you play on WaW, then it awards you with an achievement. "elevate your senses." Also most Easter eggs can't be done solo because infinite quick revive would mean you can't die. It would be cool if they changed this in the future, because with infinite who's who you will still die possibly, and I'd uou have who's who and quick revive simultaneously who's who cancels out quick revive.

Man, that's a pretty in-depth idea. Maybe 2 keys in the living world, 1 in Purgatory? Since we still don't know exactly what purgatory is, I suppose we'll find out. We might find out today, because I believe they are releasing more news. I was under the impression purgatory was a new function added to death in the game. If it is, killing yourself to get a key sure would be a price to pay. But now that I think about it, it probably isn't related to death. If it was it wouldn't be available in solo. Plus fans would go nuts having to sacrifice themselves for the Easter egg. So it is perfectly possible that we need to find stuff in purgatory, Whatever it may be. Also I think the new info is coming at 6pm. I don't know Wat time zone you're in, but here it's 2:52. That means info should be here in about 3 hours.

EMBRACE THE TRINITY II You spawn in front of a solitary confinement chamber. Looking in through the grate on the door reveals PaP behind it. Upon activating the power you need to scour the map for three keys, which must be brought back to the first room. They aren't like the teleporters on der riese though; like buildables, they can be all over the place. Once they are all brought together, the door opens and remains open all game. Hmm? Would be a nice little nod to a fan-favorite map. Now that I think about it, since the map is like call of the dead, it might just spawn around a number of places as soon as the power is on. Look to the sky to see the light!

Thanks for clearing that up PINNAZ. Maybe he is like the armored zombies in Die Rise, or The Napalm / Shriekers. He comes mixed in with the others and Is slightly more powerful or has a special ability. I am basing this idea on the fact that the ratio of shriekers / napalms to normal zombies could be comparable to the ratio of guards to prisoners in a real life situation. Edit: @ZaiquiriDaiquiri Kinda like how the thief teleports you to the labs? Or the astronaut teleports you? I can totally see this happening!

You have to consider the possibility that the entire prison isn't necessarily intact. We might be able to go from one place to another through a gaping hole in the wall. Or maybe several cell doors have burned away. Stuff like that. Maybe we could build some kind of single-use battering / breaching system? Only use it once in the whole game, but it allows you to gain access to a single cell for free. (only works on cell doors.) Sorta like in pirates if the carribbean. "with the right leverage and proper application of strength, the door will lift free." Edit: I personally believe the shield will be back. Mocking is right; it is not confirmed. However all signs point to it returning. Of course it pays to be accurate, but it reaches a point where it's just being crotchety about things.

The video shows the dog AND normal zombies alive at the same time. So it is either a mid-round boss like the napalm zombies, or after a while the rounds blend together like Der Riese. Guys, the official names have already been released! They're "the evil demon puppy monster thingy" and "the big mean pale zombie screamy suit guy." true story.