Okay, so - I'm out of work - it's midnight - let's nerd out @Nightmare Voyager @Tac
First off, we need to clear something out of the way. The Vril connection goes way beyond the V-R11; many think that our community took that little tidbit and went wild with it, when in fact the nazi's themselves were obsessed with the occult and esoteric (ranging from Shangri-La, to Vril energy, to the ark of the covenant). If you do not believe me, please check out the video in my post above - it is only 4 minutes long, and nicely summarizes the Nazi's actual belief in Vril-Ya, Vril energy, and how to harness Vril energy (I captured/uploaded it myself because I thought it was super informative).
Hitler, Himmler, many top Nazi ranking officials believe in Vril energy.
Now, let's talk about the reasoning: Hitler (and Himmler's) plan was essentially to re-write German mythology. They believed if they harnessed Vril energy (or something similar, i.e. ark, or shang), they'd be able to harness the power of God's and hence become legend. In the end, it was really just a piece of the propaganda plan to show the world that the Aryan race was the chosen race.
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Next: @Nightmare Voyager let's talk Vril, how it relates to 115, and what form it could possibly take. Since you read the book (something I sorely need to do), I'm going to ahead and pull a little excerpt (source: wiki):
I'm going to dash fact this one, because there is so much to be drawn I don't want it to be jumbled:
- Vril can be changed into the mightiest agency over all types of matter, both animate & inanimate: THAT, that is a mindf***. At this point, it sounds like Vril is almost beyond elements, beyond energy, beyond matter - basically exactly what you (NV) were getting at. And I think what @Tac and I were getting at is the theory that Vril energy may be concentrated from 115. Think of rare earth elements nowadays, we use REE for smartphones, tablets, computers, TVs, lasers, xrays, basically most technology - but it's not like they just stick a rock of meteorite into your phone and it works. It has to be broken down, and built back to it's purest form. I would say this best depicts how I feel about the equivalence of Vril to 115.
- It can destroy or replenish life, heal, cure: Much like the V-R11.
- A power source for animating mechanisms: Towers in BO2, fly trap, robots in ORIGINS, excavators on Moon, computer on Moon - the list goes on. When we think of Vril energy as a power source, it opens up entirely new options, uses, and reasonings behind the mechanisms, machines and monsters we've seen throughout the storyline.
- Vril can be harnessed by mental concentration: Okay so Tac was throwing around the idea of zombies being controlled through HAARP towers, but the popular theory was that the controller of the MPD controlled the zombies. Well what if the two weren't mutually exclusive? If someone was able to harness Vril energy through concentration, and let's theorize the MPD helped amplify the concentration wavelength, then they could direct this energy in mass amounts. The HAARP antenna's would act as a receivers, all across the world - allowing total brain control.
MPD->Mental Concentration->HAARP towers->zombies
Yes it's primitive, but I'm literally just building this theory now as I type - and would love help with fleshing it out, and taking a look at the flaws and fundamentals.
Last but not least -
A Vril staff acts like a channel for Vril energy, with the ability to destroy or heal: um, Origins staffs? holy shit? This cannot be the first time someone on this site has mentioned this, but I have not read it anywhere. Staffs of the Ancients, so are Vril-Ya the ancients? It would certainly make sense, seeing as we could then say that all zombies tech has been reverse engineered from Vril-Ya tech.
As I go through this, I realize I'm getting carried away - but that's really what the Asylum is for.
@Nightmare Voyager - in one of your posts you said that "the V-R11 seems to displace people in time". I could hug you for saying that. In fact, can I? *hug*. In Origins, we learned that 115 displaces items and people through time and space. Going from the description above, Vril can transcend matter of both animate and inanimate objects. So, perhaps, going with that idea - we are both kind of right about the V-R11. The V-R11 could use both 115 AND Vril; the 115 for temporal displacement (pulling CIA agents from somewhere else in time), and the Vril to transcend matter (the CIA agents look like CIA agents, and not the zombie they once were).
why the CIA agent? Why the same guy, over and over? What is so damned special about this dude? I cannot shake the feeling that there is something massive here we have barely scratched the surface of.
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It's now almost 2am, I've been writing this for 2 hours. I'll be back with more thoughts, hopefully more concise. Sorry if a lot of this is yammering, but frankly I'm quite amped up over discussing this. Looking forward to your responses.