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Don't worry about it @TH3 ON3 I'm sure it's a misunderstanding. It's very easy for different people to have similar, or even the same usernames on forums - so let's just keep an open mind and stick to the welcoming ;)

Welcome @Thumper ! I'm sure you'll find many who are down to slay some zombs. Let us know if you have any questions about using CODZ!

Welcome to the land of CODZ!

Not sure why this hasn't been pinned yet, but by god @PINNAZ you are just a legend. It's like - the more I peer back into these older threads, the more I'm realizing that these are treasures and provide wealths of information.

good call @TheNathanNS I've gone ahead and moved this thread under support/questions.

Thanks for your input @KeredNomrah69 - we appreciate what everyone thinks, and I will do my best to address your concerns. Also - good to see your name around these forums again! It's not really the same as getting "repeat" letters from a local company, as the automated intro response only happens once (but I understand what you are getting at). Many users who make accounts here won't even make a post, and even if they do - it's even less of a chance for those posts to be an introduction about themselves. We want to make sure that those who make introductions and go out of their way will receive tips on how to further become involved with the community. Essentially, if you make an intro - you're an asset, and we'd love to tell you about all the functions and options and new stuff that's going on. Keep in mind CODZ has changed a lot since Black Ops 2, and since we've implemented the "new look" forum with various new features. The bot post was in no way at all a solution to anything, it was simply an addition. It is not meant to be a "welcome" but more of a guiding stick towards other awesome things on CODZ. Like I said above, you make an introduction - and you are already an asset to the site. We want to make sure people who want to be a part of CODZ can jump in as soon as possible. And yeah, it's true that they do get the information with PM's and e-mails - but we (the staff) really think that making an introduction is a huge step towards community interaction, and we'd like to help as much as possible. The bot does have issues every now and then. I know what you are talking about, with the <br> stuff. Please understand that glitches and bugs like this may arise, and we will do our best to address them. It was not always like that, and we will get @Hells Warrrior on it ASAP. Yes, there are some introduction threads that people overlook. Keep in mind that it is the off season, traffic is down - and hence there is not as much activity in totality. I guess my question to you is, do you think it looks better with no replies at all? or with a bot reply? Honestly, I'd argue that a bot reply is better then nothing at all, if not equivalent. No, the bot doesn't have a negative posting effect. If someone only posts in an introduction thread because they recognize the other people posting in that thread, then they are posting for the wrong reasons. I don't know, what is a personal response that would fill any customer service requirement? It never got the point of "needing" a bot. We implemented the bot because we thought it would be a helpful addition to those taking the extra step when making an introduction thread. If there is an issue with people not being welcomed, that is on the community side. We did not implement the bot to give people a false sense of welcome. It was always heavily conveyed that the bot was there for guidance, and that WE would provide the welcome. Don't blame it on the bot, man. The bots just trying to help! Yes, there used to be a steady stream of people who would always welcome new users (mylittlehellhound, for example). Like I said above, it's the off season - and activity is down (plus many of the old users have kind of left CODZ :/ ). In regards to your suggestion of an admin appointed "welcoming committee" - wouldn't that be just as bad as a bot? You said that the "unofficial" welcome committee did it out of love, no one was ever designated - if there was a group designated to be responsible for welcomes, then would it really be out of love? I'm not at all dismissing the concept, just simply playing the devils advocate. If you want to start a community regulated unofficial welcoming committee, then by Great Odin's Raven DO IT!!! I would love to see such an initiative, and it would be great to know that no introduction thread will go unanswered. Make a thread, get some names, spread the love. Other then that, all we can really do is just try and make a pact to ourselves (as a community) to be more responsive with introduction threads. Like I said, the bot was never an answer for people not being welcomed - it was purely an addition for further immersion into the community. I completely agree that we should include names of active staff that new users can contact with questions on PMs and everything. ORRRR we could just direct them to the community regulated unofficial welcoming committee Thanks again for your input, sorry the post was so long.

@Boom I actually read it as "Indiana Jones" zombie killer, but your way is right lol. Welcome @Reign Dust !

Welcome @TH3 ON3 - be sure to let us know if you have any questions on how to use the site. Were you not there on the final days of Ptg? Th3 On3, th3 3y3, Th3 Gr3y etc. their group stirred up some trouble on the forum. If anyone is here to stir up trouble, they will get a swift IP ban from me, or one of the many active staff we have. Nothing to worry about, BHS.

Just a few more weeks, eh? He said "July 28th" so we are closing in fast. We should arrange a coming back party/tournament or something.

Yeah, I'd say it's definitely a reference to Brutus. Cell door slamming, keys jingling - makes me think of MotD for sure. I remember, though, when we were all so eager to find out what the hell those sounds were initially. Everyone thought it meant some giant boss or something haha.

Welcome to CODZ, man! You'll find theories by the bucket full here :D

@FatedTitan - Indeed I do, my friend. As always, I welcome any scrutiny because it may lead to new realizations on all accounts. And yeah, it's the off season, obviously I'm grabbing at straws haha. Regardless, we've delved into things that are interesting, but perhaps not realistic before (hint hint Ascension Poster ). I'll do my best to respond to your post, but it's going to be lonnnnnnnng: 1. "Meanwhile" is always referencing Moon (I'm not saying "meanwhile" references NTZ), but I'm just interpreting it differently for the sake of interpretation. If you look at my last sentence of the "meanwhile" section, I make it clear that I'm just interested in the word "meanwhile" itself considering that Nuketown happens meanwhile Moon happens. When it comes to zombies, wordplay can be key - I'm just looking at it from another angle. A highly improbably angle that disregards common sense? Exactly. I'd almost say that there may be a missing page between Shangri-La & Moon, but it doesn't add up. The only difference is that there is a tear in the bottom of the "advertisements" page that would be the right page of the Shangri-La screen. Could literally represent a time tear, who knows? Regardless, I'm arguing that because Shangri-La happens before Moon, and Moon being the next logical step - they wouldn't need to include "meanwhile" because it's exactly where we are going. "Meanwhile" lends itself to the inclusion of a new, or previous plot point, or even a reminder - we don't need a reminder of the next logical step. In text, it would read like: "Joe then left to drive home. Meanwhile, Joe arrived at home." ANYWAY my argument ^ is not towards your belief. I think it's completely valid to bring up that we don't know chronologically when the Shangri-La loading screen is happening - before we arrive, during (maybe just showing time warp), or after. Also, I quite like the idea of the Moon loading screen's top 2 panels representing drastically different time periods. Your argument is solid, man. 2. 115 Displacement - in ORIGINS, we learn that Element 115 can displace things in a phenomenon dubbed "temporal displacement". I'm not arguing we go back in time; I'm arguing that we are in the 1960's, and because of the moon missiles collision with the large deposit of 115 - it essentially disrupted the fabric of time and space. Different areas from different time periods became intertwined (think "Buried"), and whatever time period TranZit/Green Run was in was the first in which Maxis could communicate with the N4 - which is why he says it's been decades, when for them the missile collision happened relatively recently. You say that we've never seen 115 rips things from one time period to another, yet how you can you explain the perks, and recurring weapons. In Mob of the Dead we have a tommy gun from the prohibition age, and then a DSR 50 from 2025. We also have the perks themselves (asides from electric cherry) that are literally flickering in and out of existence because they have been *ripped* through time and space. As @ would want me to say: TEMPORAL DISPLACEMENT! 3. Marlton & TranZit bus - yeah, I mean I offered an explanation for each - but it's by no means right. Nor is this theory. It's all just an attempt at explaining it differently, because maybe some things might add up. Marlton could have been a radiation scientist from Groom Lake, maybe he knew too much and was locked in the bunker, "banished" as he says. How he gets from the bunker to TranZit, I do not know - but it would involve the 115 displacement blast, obviously. It also involves him loosing his memory, much like how Russman inexplicably lost his. The bus, like I said - could have been a transportation system for the radiation scientists. No human driver because of the radiation contamination, strong enough to withstand a nuclear blast. This is all speculation, but what would even be the point of having a robot driver on a bus - if there was a human who could do it fine? There must be a purpose, and I'm saying the purpose of such a robot driver could be because of the high levels of radiation. NTZ loading screen in the future - I'm glad we see eye to eye on this. Thanks again for letting me know what you think. ~ @ - thanks for sharing your thoughts good sir. I always look forward to your scrutiny, because I always feel like I learn something new haha. I'll answer in the same fashion I did fated's: Why the nuke is dropped - yeah, I hinted at something but I guess I didn't hint hard enough. I was saying, perhaps the scientists were performing an experiment by literally seeing if 115 could reanimate corpses that have been blown up in a nuclear strike. Why they would do such a thing, or what they would learn from it? That's the real question! But yeah, that's just one example - albeit an "off of the head" example. @InfestLithium also suggested that the troops could have been fighting over something of value at the site. Once whomever owned said valuable thing found out it was in danger of being compromised, they basically had it nuked - to avoid anyone having it. What they didn't count on, was the corpse reanimating plague they'd release upon the unsuspecting public haha. Zombie controllers bad at their job - excellent, and hilarious point. I wanna talk to the zombie controller manager, about this injustice! "Meanwhile" message - yeah, I think I answered this above in regards to Fated. I was basically just exploring world play of "meanwhile", I don't really have much to back that up other then it's just a hunch. It makes much more sense to view it as you, and Fated, have said it (which I have known all along, but the off season makes me grasp at straws for theorizing). I'll repeat what I said above though, if we are meant to take that "meanwhile" indicates transitioning from Shangri-La to Moon, then it wouldn't make sense unless it happens in a different time frame from the O4 transitioning from Shangri-La to Moon. It'd be like saying "Joe left to drive home. Meanwhile, Joe arrived at home." However, the time frames in general of both the loading screens are totally open to interpretation - and thus my perspective is purely speculative. Past, Present, Future - yeah, it for sure doesn't make sense on paper - but when you get the temporal displacement of Element 115 on such a large scale level due to the missile blast, I'm suggesting that it essentially "broke" the world - like Russman said. Obviously, there are many ways to construe what a "broken" world is, I'm merely suggesting that he means time itself is broken, the world that we know is broken. The Bus Driver - Your point is good, about the bus driver swearing. I agree that I don't think he would be programmed to say such things, and it's really just a flat out mystery to me why he even exists. What could his purpose be? If it's just to drive a bus, then why make him bullet proof? Is the bus route in a bad neighborhood? He purpose, to me, is an absolute brain boggle. Marlton - Same thing as above, really just a mystery to me. That's part of the reason why I wanted to try and craft a theory, just to attempt to explain it in a way that makes most sense to me... if that makes sense. "Mysterious Being" - Absolutely total speculation haha, this whole theory is just speculation! Unfortunately sometimes it seems in zombies that you are only given the "what and where" to work with. The problem is I don't know who this individual who seeks to harness the 115 deposit would be, I only know he's using the technology hinted at in ORIGINS. There's obviously a purpose, probably something along the lines of using the extracted 115 to power something. I just think that, if the nuketown loading screen was in the present - then they'd be wearing a present day CDC suit. The individual's suit looks very futuristic, and the 115 extraction drill looks futuristic - plus it looks as if it's attached to some sort of air ship, perhaps alien in nature. Regarding the craters, yes that's actually what I imagined. The initial nuke of Nuketown just scratched the surface, and then the moon missile literally just wiped the surface clean - except for the point in which it hit. I'm not sure if I follow you on "re-assigning" a nuke to the mushroom cloud in game, but if I understand you right - I'm pretty sure that that mushroom cloud in game IS from the initial nuke. The radiation scientists were sent out to investigate promptly after the explosion, they were attacked, sent out a distress signal - and the CDC/CIA agents on hand at Groom Lake answered. I have no idea how long a mushroom cloud sticks around, but obviously they couldn't have it dissipate throughout the rounds (even though it would be cool). and also, yeah I never suggested that the O4 built the stone temple. Through responding and going over it, I've essentially arrived that I think they took a stone temple from Shangri-La to moon - but had to go down to Area 51 to grab the stone plates relating to Richtofen's grand scheme. Though I gather that you have a theory in relation to what we've talked through about them building a stone temple, and I'd love for you to elaborate on it. Are you saying that, in this "re-imagining" the O3+SAM built a stone temple after the events of Moon? ~ Thanks for your input @swappingspit , let me try and answer: 1. I've always looked at that largest star and wondered if it bares significance. You are spot on about the orientation, and that certainly should not be overlooked. 2. Yup that's common knowledge, haha. No worries though! It's honestly a fantastic image, and I love how her shadow looks - also I love the intrigue it causes, so many ways to interpret it. And yeah, it's totally valid to draw from this that it's showing basically Samantha "killing them all" as we've heard in the radios. Thanks again man ~ @PINNAZ always a pleasure to have you comment, Doctor. Looking forward to what you'll bring to the table

@InfestLithium - glad you enjoyed the read! I'm going to respond to the things you brought up: That video is awesome, because it totally shows how the nuke goes off just a little bit away from Nuketown. Granted, those houses wouldn't be standing anymore if they dropped a nuke on them - but still, interesting stuff... AND it corresponds with the map image of Nuketown from BO2, pretty cool man. the soldiers fighting - yeah I have no idea how to explain that. Clearly, it's part of the story to an extent - because 3arc outright said that Nuketown zombies takes place after the bomb has gone off in the black ops multiplayer map. "meanwhile..." - this loading page has always intrigued me, and to this day I still don't think we all fully grasp what in the hell is going on. Like you said, why would the O4 use a Vimana/Traveling Temple Pyramid to get from Shangri-La to the Moon - and THEN, go back to Area 51, use a teleporter and find a space suit. Possibly because they needed those stones that you have to Gersch next to the teleporter in NML? If that was the case, why wouldn't the O3+SAM use the Vimana after the ending of Moon? Regardless, I think one of the most crucial things you pointed out was "the pyramid is still on the Moon, and a good distance away from Griffen Station". I agree with the fact of the pyramid still being there, but not about the distance from Griffen station: The green line represents the Vimana/Pyramid/Shangri-La Temple's trajectory. The red lines represent where the astronauts would be going. I think it's important to note that in the bottom left photo, there is a man made bridge of some sort within the same field of view as where the Pyramid landed - so it can't be a great distance from Griffen station. @Slade - nice spot on those footsteps man, it's those little cross marks - right? And yeah, there are definitely artifacts from Shangri-La lying around - quite a few it seems. I agree with @InfestLithium though, that this probably takes place after Samantha has entered the MPD. It's all open to interpretation, but her shadow makes it seem as if she is just watching and waiting from the Aether. Also, the scientists wouldn't need the Shangri-La temple on the Moon because they had everything set for Richtofen entering the MPD. Samantha entering was not intended, they had everything they needed - hence the need to go to Shangri-La to get the focusing stone wouldn't have existed, it only became a solution after Sam was sucked in and Richtofen needed a way to switch souls with her. Phew... that's a mouthful.

Thanks @Black Hand Smith Everything about it looks futuristic - the ship/aircraft that the 115 Extraction drill is attached to, the mysterious being's attire, and the shot of the ship/aircraft's wing. also UPDATE: For now, I've added everything I wanted to - no longer a work in progress. I've cleaned up and condensed a lot of the sections, took out a bunch of stuff that was already commonplace knowledge, and added some photos! I'd love to discuss with all of you

Nuketown and Moon occur at the same time. This fact is undeniable, given that we've literally been told by 3arc themselves: The problem that we've always had is trying to figure out chronologically when Moon/Nuketown takes place. Is it 1960-something, going with the Black Ops era? Is it 2025, going with the Black Ops 2 era? Or is it both, simply because Element 115 can displace objects in time and space? Well, I'm here to give my opinions and supporting facts on why Nuketown and Moon occur in the 1960's - and why the Nuketown loading screen itself happens beyond the year 2025. Events of Nuketown & Moon as they transpired: 1960-something: - Soldiers fighting (multiplayer) - Nuke goes off, soldiers die - The Nuke crater unearths Element 115 - Element 115 (now airborne) revives soldiers - Scientists from Groom Lake arrive, investigate - Scientists are attacked by zombie soldiers, activate distress signal - CIA/CDC agents dispatched from Groom Lake - O4 arrive at Groom Lake, Samantha is sending zombies at them - CIA/CDC arrive at Nuketown, and loose communication with Hangar 18 - Meanwhile... the O4 traverse the moons landscape, making their way to Griffen Station - CIA/CDC fight against zombies as long as they can - Richtofen takes control of zombies from Samantha - Maxis launches Moon missiles - CIA/CDC die by zombies just as one of the 3 Moon missile's strikes earth ***Many years pass by*** 2025+: - (Nuketown Zombies loading screen) A mysterious being uses a 115 extraction drill on the crater that once was Nuketown. The only other reference we have seen to a 115 extraction drill is in ORIGINS. Why are soldiers fighting there? This is a hard question, because - usually we aren't supposed to consider multiplayer maps cannon. It's possible that the soldiers are fighting because it is a training exercise, it's also possible that they we're fighting because there was something of value in Nuketown. It's ALSO possible that the scientists, who investigate the site so quickly after the nuke detonates, knew about the Element 115 deposit underneath - and were literally conducting experiments on human beings. Who are these zombies loyal to? Right from the start, this story is hard to follow. We've been told that Samantha controls the zombies, and that she sends never-ending hordes after the O4 in an effort to stop Richtofen's plan. The zombies in Nuketown start off with yellow eyes, meaning they are controlled by Samantha - as they game plays through, Richtofen takes control and the eyes turn blue; all the while, the zombies are attacking the CIA/CDC agents. If these corpses were revived simply by the act of the nuke unearthing 115, then it's possible to say that this might be one of the first documented cases of zombies attacking for the sake of attacking. If Samantha is not controlling them, what is their purpose? If Samantha IS controlling them - then what does she have to gain by killing off the CIA/CDC? Isn't she a little caught up with the whole "Richtofen trying to swap souls with her" thing? To me, this reads as the zombies operating on instincts rather then orders. Basically, if the O4 are in the vicinity - then they become a priority... HOWEVER, if (for example) the O4 were on the Moon and there was a group of zombies in Nevada, the zombies in Nevada would simply attack the closest thing possible. Hence, in conducting the Nuketown experiment - the scientists unwittingly released the first true zombie attack on American civilians (outside of Mob of the Dead). Meanwhile... The literal definition of "meanwhile" is: in the intervening period of time, or at the same time Shangri-La does not happen at the same time as Moon. Richtofen must have the focusing stone before he can even execute his plan on the Moon. The developers have flat out told us that Moon and Nuketown occur at the same time, so wouldn't that be a strong indicator that "meanwhile" is talking about the events of Nuketown, not of Shangri-La? Why would there be 4 astronauts if we weren't immediately supposed to assume "oh, that's the O4"? I'm going to play the devil's advocate for a moment; in comic books, "meanwhile" will often refer to a previous page or previous plot point. It is much more feasible to say that what we are seeing on the Moon loading screen IS occurring at the time of Shangri-La - and that the 4 astronauts are not the O4, but perhaps Griffen station scientists. It's also a huge mystery as to what the hell that Shangri-La temple is doing floating around in space, and then seemingly firmly planted to the Moon's surface as the astronauts traverse the Tacitus Ravine (as it's been called). The only thing many can extract from this, is that it means that the loading screen is related to Shangri-La... and I can't help but agree. Switching out of devils advocate mode - I have no clue how to explain the Shangri-La temple in the Moon loading screen, or how it could relate to Nuketown. I'm more so mentioning this because of the inclusion of the word "meanwhile", and how that in itself could pertain to Nuketown and Moon at the same time. Where are the Radiation Scientists & CIA/CDC Agents From? This description is very strangely worded. Are the radiation scientists from the "nearby Nevada base"? Are the zombie soldiers from the "nearby Nevada base"? Or, is the Element 115 from the "nearby Nevada base"? Also, the word "investigating" is another red flag. If Nuketown is a nuclear test site, then are they investigating their findings of a deadly nuclear experiment? How much do these radiation scientists know? Clearly, not much because they are attacked and killed by the undead soldiers: Okay, so another vague description at first. "The base in Nevada" sends in these agents, whom are apparently in communication with Hangar 18. Does this mean that they were dispatched from Hangar 18? Why would they be in communication with Hangar 18 if they weren't intrinsically from Hangar 18/Groom Lake/Area 51 in general? I'm going to go with "yes", the CDC/CIA are involved with Area 51 - they are in communication with Hangar 18. Hangar 18 Before I proceed - Groom Lake & Area 51 are synonymous. I don't want people to get caught up in the syntax, so when I say "Area 51", or "Groom Lake" - I'm talking about the same thing, and when I say "Hangar 18", it's a structure inside of Groom Lake/Area 51. Speaking of Groom Lake... When you start up Moon, you are in No Man's Land - on Groom Lake. This sign is present (thanks to @Shooter for the photo - http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/index.php/topic/147694-no-mans-land-1962-1968/) and with the combination of the above quote from @Tac , and of course the confirmation from 3arc with the description of Nuketown - it's easy to see that Nuketown Zombies occurs in 1960-something. The Missile You See at the Death Screen After Richtofen takes control in Moon, what happens? Maxis has us launch 3 missiles that target and explode on Earth, here's comparison pictures of a missile on the Moon, and the missile that hits Nuketown Zombies at the death screen: To me, they look very much alike. The only difference I can see is regarding the red rings - there is an extra red ring where the missile goes from narrow to fat. And then What Happens? That really is the question, isn't it? The nuke(s) from Nuketown weakened the earth's crust, creating craters - and unearthing Element 115 emanating from the ground. This clearly was a hotspot for 115. The missiles from the Moon? Completely uprooted the Element 115 - converging it with our atmosphere, combining with particles until it ultimately disrupted and displaced the fabric of time and space. Past, present, and future combined into a hodgepodge of scorched earth and devastation. What about the TranZit Bus Honking in Nuketown? There is no one way to answer this, but I'll do my best. @ uses the TranZit bus as one of the examples as to why TranZit/Green Run happens in the future. The Bus Driver AI is way beyond the technology present in the 1960's, and I think it's a safe bet to agree with him. But in defending this theory, I'd argue that having basic automated AI in the 1960's isn't unrealistic. It's not like The Bus Driver actually knows how to carry a conversation, he just reacts to what happens. Hop on and he'll tell you to close the doors, get to a stop and he'll tell you that you've arrived, shoot him in the head and he'll kick you off... it's not like you can ask him what his favorite color is, and he'll thoughtfully respond back. The reason why we hear the TranZit bus in Nuketown could be as simple as the bus was a means of transportation for the Radiation Scientists conducting tests at Nuketown. The bus probably had a schedule, and would arrive daily to collect or dispatch scientists. The reason for The Bus Driver AI & heavy duty material was because it would have to withstand literal nuclear blasts and still remain operational. And what about Marlton trapped in the Nuketown bunker? This, is a giant thorn in all of our sides, to be honest. It's almost as if Treyarch doesn't even keep tabs on the story they are telling. Marlton is somehow trapped in the 1960's, in a bunker, in Nuketown. He claims that he was banished, it's all very vague and foggy. A lot of people say that he somehow escapes and then hops on the TranZit bus we hear. My take: Marlton was one of the Radiation Scientists that performed tests on Nuketown. Perhaps he was aware of the Element 115 deposit under Nuketown and attempted to warn his fellow scientists, thus leading to exile. Either that, or perhaps he knew too much - and they purposely left him in Nuketown to die - thinking that he'd be killed by either time, radiation, or a nuclear explosion itself. BUT (and this is a giant "but"), according to the Buried intro cutscene, Marlton meets up with Misty - and then meets up with Russman & Stu in TranZit. Russman & Stu were on the bus, NOT Marlton. On top of that, if Marlton was a Radiation Scientist who worked on Nuketown and used the bus as transportation, he would recognize it... yet, he doesn't. Russman seems to have lapses in his memory, perhaps everyone does? Some Time Later... A mysterious being uses massive technology to extract the 115 deposit left from the 115 rocket. We know that it is a 115 extraction drill because of the blueprints found in ORIGINS: Many would suggest that because the 115 Extraction Drill has been around since ORIGINS, that the Nuketown loading screen could occur in the past - I don't think that's the case, because how would the crater be there? This is clearly years later, after the fallout has cleared, after the zombies have been scattered - and there is a clear purpose behind extracting this 115. Suggested Reading: @MixMasterNut 's "Ultimate Nuketown Loading Screen Analysis" - http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/index.php/topic/152716-the-ultimate-nuketown-zombies-loading-screen-analysis/ @MixMasterNut 's "Ultimate Moon Loading Screen Analysis" - http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/index.php/topic/172313-the-ultimate-moon-loading-screen-analysis-updated-5-30-12/ @Shooter 's "No Man's Land - 1962-1968" - http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/index.php/topic/147694-no-mans-land-1962-1968/ @Rissole25 's "Nuketown Loading Screen" - http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/index.php/topic/149310-nuketown-zombies-loading-screen/

@MixMasterNut I always find myself coming back to this thread. Just a reminder, I think you still need to add a section in the OP for the 115 extraction drill drawings from ORIGINS that @PINNAZ posted about. So they were extracting 115 at Nuketown, presumably? I agree with @PINNAZ that this must take place after the nuke, considering the CDC suit. So that means that while we are playing in Nuketown, the giant crater is the crater intended for 115 extraction. Makes a lot of sense, seeing as zombies crawl out of it (not to say they don't spawn from plenty of other places as well). Also just wanted to chip in that the "wings of the jet plane" section totally reminds me of the drill blade section of the moon loading screen. I guess it's mostly the angle of the shot that makes me compare them, mostly. Funny though, that both images are in the bottom right of their respective loading screens. Is there any way that the "Meanwhile" could be a reference to Nuketown, rather then Shangri-La? I think it would make more sense because we hear Richtofen going through his plans during Nuketown - which obviously means they are happening at the same time.

Amazing thread here, @carbonfibah , some seriously great photos here of the Haunebu's - among other experiments. Some really interesting stuff on the Vrill society as well. This thread is an oldie, but a goodie. 4 years later and this stuff is still so awesome haha

Epic thread that deserves brains. Always great to pour over the forum and find greats like this.

Brains for you on this wonderfully written topic, @FatedTitan !