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Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
I made a thread (In the Green Run Section of the TranZit Board) containing information on the location of Green Run with heaps of information about Hanford, the surrounding towns, the Manhattan Project & the Soviet Spies that infiltrated the Manhattan Project - Green Run Map Location Information & Much More The events of Moon & Nuketown happen at the same time. In Green Run, all the locations & props (Buildings,cars) are from the 1960's. This must indicate that the events of Moon/Nuketown (when the Missiles were launched) Occured in the 1960's. There is no further Evolution since the missiles struck Earth. Also I think it was at the COD XP event, they said that the Zombie Story does NOT occur at the same time/date as the Campaign. I'll try to dig that video up. -
Im leaning away from the idea that the next maps will feature more Towers. I think it will feel like a 'Reused' Idea. Kinda Boring? I'm starting to think of other types of power sources, but still along the same lines of a Spire/Obelisk. I think one of the maps will be 'Underground' & we will rebuilt some type of Power Source or Computer type mechanic. Think of the Tower as one part to the overall Machine we are making. Kinda like the 'buildables' in Green Run. Right now I'm looking at some of Tesla' inventions. Mainly the different pieces to the 'Wardenclyffe Tower', Teleforce, Particle Beam/ Death Ray.
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Ladies & Gentlemen. We have a Leader! I wish you all the best Nick, Return CoDz to its former Glory. Enjoy your Slay! Cheers, Nathan.
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Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
How do we know if Marlton is wearing the watch in the Nuketown Fallout Shelter? We never see him. Remember Richtofen's 'outfit' changed in between maps from his German Army outfit to an Astronaut suit. And I'm not saying that Green Run occurs in the 1960's. I don't think we can pinpoint the exact date. But check out Tac's Time + Location of Zombie Maps thread for a better understanding. (which InfestLithium posted in his first comment) -
Welcome to CoDz No Pic = No Proof? Maybe you should have waited in making a thread until you had your video up.
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Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
Call of Duty Black Ops 2 Webpage Under the 'DLC' tab http://callofduty.com/blackops2/seasonpass NUKETOWN ZOMBIES MAP Nuketown Zombies is set during the events of Moon, and after the end of the multiplayer level from the original Black Ops game. A group of radiation scientists are investigating the Nuketown remains and discover soldiers that have been revived by Element 115 from a nearby Nevada base. The zombie soldiers attack the radiation scientists and turn them, and after receiving a distress signal, the base in Nevada sends in CIA and CDC agents to investigate. Upon arrival in Nuketown the agents lose communication with Hangar 18 and become stranded…setting the stage for Nuketown Zombies. -
Very cool image. What type/brand of watch is it ?
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Inexperienced Players You've Played With (Green Run)
PINNAZ replied to Jeager1999's topic in TranZit
Way's lying.... He just Trolls & runs trains into you, throws EMP's on your box hit..... Nah, Way has carried me & revives aswell. Truly a legend Zombie Slayer! -
Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
Look how long my response is, and you think I skimmed through your post? And yet you mustn't of read the first few lines of my post where I quoted Dr Richtofen And yet you skimmed over what Great Slave Lake was about. A nuclear cleanup by a government agency wearing Yellow radioactive protective suits in 1978. Concerns over scenarios involving nuclear accidents or incidents on American soil are not recent. As early as the 1960s, officials were concerned that a nuclear weapon might be smuggled into the country, or that an airplane carrying a nuclear weapon might crash and contaminate surrounding areas. I think you just answered & contradicted your own thread, the Timeline is screwed up! I'm only trying to show information which is otherwise. -
Hahaha....don't you love when you blow your own mind and an awesome link comes together in your head!!!! I've written something similar in other NDU threads. That the crashed Plane was in fact part of Operation Paperclip in which the US brought back Nazi Scientists to help with Nuclear Development at the Hanford Site (thats my short Version)
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Thanks Team!!! @ SaLaD - you come out of nowhere & Boom, your always the first to comment on my threads. Cheers Mate! I've been away all month & finally got some time to post this. We gotta have a game again soon. @ Lenne - thanks I really appreciate when you read & comment on my posts, even if you guys just skim through it. They are that long it can be a bit of a turn off. Thanks Again!!!
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Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
So the O4 were at Der Riese for almost 20 Years? assumming Der Riese occured in 1945 I'll start with this Quote taken from Tac's thread - Transcripts of Every Nazi Zombie Radio Shi No Numa Radio *Added in Black Ops, the following radio refers to the teleportation from Der Riese to Kino Der Toten* ==================== The O4 are all at least 20 in 1945ish, by the time it is present in Call of the Dead (2011) They would be at least 80ish? (even though we don't see them @ COTD) ==================== I urge you to research 'Vimanas' (I would also like to show you MixMasterNuts 'Moon Loading Screen Analysis' but I'm unable to locate it) If you research Shangri-la/Agartha (many different ways of spelling) you may find that 'Inner Earth' has tunnels to the surface of earth. It is said that one of these tunnels comes out in the Nevada Desert where a U.S. Military Base is located. This may be that link? =================== This is taken from the Black Ops 2 website NUKETOWN ZOMBIES MAP Nuketown Zombies is set during the events of Moon, and after the end of the multiplayer level from the original Black Ops game. A group of radiation scientists are investigating the Nuketown remains and discover soldiers that have been revived by Element 115 from a nearby Nevada base. The zombie soldiers attack the radiation scientists and turn them, and after receiving a distress signal, the base in Nevada sends in CIA and CDC agents to investigate. Upon arrival in Nuketown the agents lose communication with Hangar 18 and become stranded…setting the stage for Nuketown Zombies. As for the 'Modern Day Hazmat Suits'? Research 'Nuclear Emergency Response Team - NEST' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Emergency_Support_Team & 'Operation Morning Light' http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/m/article.cfm?params=A1&id=A0005952 Have you heard the Bus Driver Quote "Great Slave Lake"? Operation Morning light is what he is referring to. This was when a Russian Nuclear Satelitte crashed over the area of Great Slave Lake,Canada in 1978. When Cosmos 954 crashed it struck across a large swath of ice in the Canadian tundra, 1000 miles north of Montana near the Great Slave Lake. The NEST team vans carrying the specialists were dispatched by C130 transport to the crash scene. Dressed in Yellow Radiation Suits & Gasmasks, the vans were disguised as bakery vans. As part of Operation Morning Light – the NEST team members searched over a fifty by eight hundred mile corridor for radioactive debris. After several months, 90 percent of the debris from Cosmos 954 was recovered. After the crash, officials calculated that if Cosmos 954 had made one more orbit of the Earth before it crashed, it would have landed somewhere over the populated American East Coast. I know NEST aren't the Center for Disease Control (CDC) but Yellow Hazmat suits were around along time ago. My main point here is that if 'Nuketown Zombies' & 'Green Run' aesthetics & Props still look like they are from the 1960s, then the events of moon when the rockets hit earth must of occured in the 1960s. ================== Im not saying you're wrong, to me Green Run's time era can't be pinpointed. Exactly anyway. There's a Major Time issue going on with the Zombie storyline, I don't know how it will be explained, if it is ever explained? You seem very defensive of your post & very rude & disrespectful to both InfestLuthium & Tac's thread. Also to MurderMachineX in which one of his comments (in another thread) I think this thread is based from. You should really check his Accumilating Storyline Thread out. The Discussion is 50 odd pages long! CoDz is a forum to DISCUSS the many aspects of Zombies, in which we help each other flesh out what we believe is accurate information. -
Clearing things out about the timeline...
PINNAZ replied to zombie_exterminator's topic in General Zombies Discussion
You started off well, you have a 5 line paragraph. Then you turned it into a wall of black & white static. Give me an hour to decipher this. -
Thanks for the last couple of comments guys, much appreciated! There are a few of them which may be incorrect. Harvard Yard, Darkened Hole in a Cliff, Pismo Beach, Santa Monica Promenade to name a few. What I chose for Santa Monica & Hawaii was because of the easy link to Earthquake Faultines, Volcanos & Tsunami's. Hawaii I thought must refer to disasters because the Bus Driver says "Were all going to Drown" There were 2 other locations that I havent included because I couldn't be bothered...... Houston Astrodome http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliant_Astrodome Reliant Astrodome, also known as the Houston Astrodome or simply the Astrodome, is the world's first multi-purpose, domed sports stadium, located in Houston, Texas, USA. The stadium is part of the Reliant Park complex. It opened in 1965 as Harris County Domed Stadium Hurricane Katrina On August 31, 2005, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the Harris County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management and the State of Louisiana came to an agreement to allow at least 25,000 evacuees from New Orleans, especially those that were sheltered in the Louisiana Superdome, to move to the Astrodome until they could return home. The evacuation began on September 1, 2005. All scheduled events for the final four months of 2005 at the Astrodome were cancelled. Overflow refugees were held in the surrounding Reliant Park complex. There was a full field hospital inside the Reliant Arena, which cared for the entire Katrina refugee community. The entire Reliant Park complex was scheduled to be emptied of hurricane refugees by September 17, 2005. Originally, the Astrodome was planned to be used to house refugees until December. However, the surrounding parking lots were needed for the first Houston Texans home game. Arrangements were made to help Katrina refugees find apartments both in Houston and elsewhere in the United States. By September 16, 2005, the last of the hurricane refugees living in the Astrodome had been moved out either to the neighboring Reliant Arena or to permanent housing north of Houston. As of September 20, 2005, the remaining Katrina refugees were relocated to Arkansas due to Hurricane Rita. ============================== And I can't remember what the other one was that I left out? hahaha And it looks like Spiderbite from NGT Zombies is doing a series on the Underground Military Bunker locations & gives this thread a shout-out in each of his videos! Cheers Spiderbite! So I've included his videos in each section it refers to. Thanks again all!!!
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I thought this information may be helpful & someone might get something out of it. I wrote this thread awhile ago & never got around to posting it. It's still unfinished but hopefully you guys can add some more info & I'll add it to this post. A special thanks to these awesome users & their great threads - TheDunbarian - (I can't find your Manhattan Project/Hanford post) Electric Jesus - Green Run, TranZit, and Moon! OH MY!! (BOII Storyline Theory) MixMasterNut - Oppenheimer - Manhattan Project, Trinity, Brahmastra, & MJ12 Tac - Green Run & Chernobyl If anyone else that has written on Hanford/Manhattan Project, feel free to post the links & I will add them. ======================================== Location of the Green Run Map Hanford, Washington State United States of America Northern Hemisphere Hanford, Benton County, Washington State, USA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford,_Washington Hanford & White Bluffs Photos http://www.hanford.gov/c.cfm/photogalle ... m/Settlers Hanford, White Bluffs, and Richland were small farming towns founded between 1905 and 1910. The towns had a combined population of 1500. Richland's 1940 census numbered its citizens at 200. Hanford was a small agricultural community in Benton County, Washington, United States. It was depopulated in 1943 along with the town of White Bluffs in order to make room for the nuclear production facility known as the Hanford Site. The town was located in what is now the "100F" sector of the site. The original town, named for the judge and irrigation company president Cornelius Hanford, was settled in 1907 on land bought by the local power and water utility. In 1913, the town had a spur railroad link to the transcontinental Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Paul Railway, also known as 'the electric railroad.' By 1925 the town was booming thanks to high agricultural demand, and it boasted a hotel, bank, and its own elementary and high schools. The town was condemned by the Federal government to make way for the Hanford site. Residents were given a thirty day eviction notice on March 9, 1943. Most buildings were destroyed, with the notable exception of the high school. ======================================== White Bluffs White Bluffs was an agricultural town in Benton County, Washington, United States. It was depopulated in 1943 along with the town of Hanford to make room for the nuclear production facility known as the Hanford Site. Prior to the arrival of white settlers, the land was inhabited by the Wanapum Indians, a tribe closely related to the Palouse, Yakama, and Nez Perce tribes. The first white settlement at White Bluffs was in 1861. The original townsite was located on the east bank of the Columbia River in Franklin County, near present-day Area 100H of the Hanford Nuclear Reservation. A ferry was built to accommodate traffic across the Columbia headed for the gold rush in British Columbia. By the early 1890s the population had grown and the town expanded to the west bank of the Columbia in Benton County. When U.S. government seizures of homes of White Bluffs residents occurred beginning in March 1943, some homes were seized immediately for government office buildings. Residents were given from three days to two months to abandon their homes. Homes and orchards were burned by the government to clear the site. The remains of some 177 persons buried at the White Bluffs Cemetery were moved on May 6, 1943, to the East Prosser Cemetery, some 30 miles (50 km) away. At the time of the government destruction of the town of White Bluffs, production of pears, apples, vegetables, and grapes for wine production were primary sources of livelihood. Today, almost nothing remains of the town. White Bluffs Proposed Catholic Church White Bluffs First Bank (one of the only remains of White Bluffs) Inside White Bluffs First Bank (circa 1920) ======================================== Richland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richland,_Washington Richland is a city in Benton County in the southeastern part of the U.S. state of Washington, at the confluence of the Yakima and the Columbia Rivers. Along with the nearby cities of Pasco and Kennewick, Richland is one of the Tri-Cities of Washington, home to the Hanford nuclear site. In 1904-1905, W.R. Amon and his son Howard purchased 2,300 acres (9 km2) and proposed a town site on the north bank of the Yakima River. Postal authorities approved the designation of this town site as Richland in 1905, naming it for Nelson Rich, a state legislator and land developer. In 1906, the town was registered at the Benton County Courthouse. It was incorporated on April 28, 1910 as a Washington Fourth Class City. Richland was a small farm town until the US Army purchased 1660 km² (640 sq mi) along the Columbia River for the war effort, evicting the 300 residents of Richland as well as those of the now vanished towns of White Bluffs and Hanford just upriver. The army turned it into a bedroom community for the workers on its Manhattan Project facility at the nearby Hanford Engineering Works (now the Hanford site). The population increased from 300 in July and August 1943 to 25,000 by the end of World War II in August 1945. All land and buildings were owned by the government. Housing was assigned to residents and token rent was collected; families were assigned to houses or duplexes; single people were placed in apartments or barracks. Everything necessary was provided, from free bus service to light bulbs, and trees were planted in people's yards by the government. With the end of the war, that Hanford workers camp, originally located fifteen miles (24 km) north of Richland at the old Hanford town site, was closed down. Although many of them moved away as the war effort wound down, some of these workers moved to Richland, offsetting the depopulation that might otherwise have occurred. The government town of Richland, Washington in the early days of the Hanford site. Fears that the Soviet Union's intentions were aggressive set off the Cold War in 1947. The capacity to produce plutonium was increased beginning in 1947. When the Soviet Union developed and tested their first nuclear weapon in 1949, the U.S. nuclear program was reinvigorated. A second post-WW II expansion began in 1950 as a result of the war in Korea. Richland's Cold War construction boom resulted in Richland's population growing to 27,000 people by 1952. Many of these people lived in a construction camp of trailers located in what is now north Richland. With time, these trailers were vacated and the core city grew. The government got out of the landlord business in 1957 when the real estate was sold to the residents. Most of the people lived in duplexes; senior tenants were given the option to purchase the building; junior tenants were given the option to purchase lots in a newly platted area of north Richland. Richland was incorporated in 1958 as a chartered First Class City, an open self-governed city. As part of the transition, large areas of undeveloped land became city property. Richland's financial dependency on the federal Hanford facility changed little at this time because Hanford's mission as a weapons materials production site continued during the Cold War years. With the shutdown of the last production reactor in 1987, the area transitioned to environmental cleanup and technology. Now, many Richland residents are employed at the Hanford site in its environmental cleanup mission. Richland is served by Richland Airport, located in the city, as well as the Tri-Cities Airport, located in nearby Pasco. Both have only domestic flights. Ben Franklin Transit provides bus transportation within Richland and the Tri Cities area. Tri-City Railroad http://www.tcry.com/?ID=25&B=25 The Tri-City & Olympia Railroad was established in 2000 as a short line railroad offering regional rail-freight transportation and support services. In the government sector we have taken on significant railroad support activities involving military equipment, nuclear waste, and construction materials. The Tri-City & Olympia Railroad has played a proud part in the defense efforts of our nation by assuring the prompt and safe rail transport of combat and supply equipment. The Department of Energy (US-DOE) has begun to rely on Tri-City & Olympia Railroad to coordinate and conduct the movement of nuclear processing plant waste to decontamination and long-term storage facilities. The Tri-City & Olympia Railroad has refabricated rail equipment to meet the special handling needs of low-level nuclear waste. That special car will be used at the Hanford Site in Washington State. That handling capability will help the US-DOE reduce costs, increase safety, and deal with large equipment clean up needs. Tri-City & Olympia Railroad has also assisted the US Navy by moving waste items for permanent burial at Hanford. Similarly, the Tri-City & Olympia Railroad has helped transport two massive generators from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission Site at Hanford to Texas. ======================================== Atomic Frontier Days Takes readers behind the headlines into the Manhattan Project at Hanford and the communities that surround it and offers perspectives on today’s controversies in an area now famous for the monumental effort to clean up decades of nuclear waste. On the banks of the Pacific Northwest's greatest river lies the Hanford nuclear reservation, an industrial site that appears to be at odds with the surrounding vineyards and desert. The 586-square-mile compound on the Columbia River is known both for its origins as part of the Manhattan Project and for the monumental effort now under way to clean up forty-five years of waste from manufacturing plutonium for nuclear weapons. Hanford routinely makes the news, as scientists, litigants, administrators, and politicians argue over its past and its future. It is easy to think about Hanford as an expression of federal power, a place apart from humanity and nature, but that view distorts its history. Atomic Frontier Days looks through a wider lens, telling a complex story of production, community building, politics, and environmental sensibilities. In brilliantly structured parallel stories, the authors bridge the divisions that accompany Hanford's headlines and offer perspective on today's controversies. Influenced as much by regional culture, economics, and politics as by war, diplomacy, and environmentalism, Hanford and the Tri-Cities of Richland, Pasco, and Kennewick illuminate the history of the modern American West. John M. Findlay is professor of history at the University of Washington, with expertise in social and urban history. Bruce Hevly, an expert in the history of science and technology, is associate professor of history at the University of Washington. "Atomic Frontier Days captures one of the most interesting and controversial places in the American West in all its surprising particularity. Technologically sophisticated, shrewd, at once analytically unflinching and generous, it belongs on the short list of books necessary to understand the West and its complicated relation to the nation." - Richard White, author of The Organic Machine "This richly detailed study takes us beyond big government programs and corporate contracts to show people coping with the intricate dance of science and technology, warfare and welfare, the mess of making bombs and the business of cleaning up." - Virginia Scharff, Center for the Southwest, University of New Mexico "Professors Findlay and Hevly have written an important and compelling book. It is a must-read for anyone interested in and concerned about this nation's nuclear legacy, with many lessons applicable to future uses of nuclear energy." - Keith Benson, University of British Columbia ======================================== The Manhattan Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project The Manhattan Project was a research and development program by the United States with the United Kingdom and Canada that produced the first atomic bomb during World War II. From 1942 to 1946, the project was under the direction of Major General Leslie Groves of the US Army Corps of Engineers. The Army component of the project was designated the Manhattan District; "Manhattan" gradually superseded the official codename, "Development of Substitute Materials", for the entire project. Along the way, the Manhattan Project absorbed its earlier British counterpart, Tube Alloys. The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (roughly equivalent to $25.8 billion as of 2012). Over 90% of the cost was for building factories and producing the fissionable materials, with less than 10% for development and production of the weapons. Research and production took place at more than 30 sites, some secret, across the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada. Two types of atomic bomb were developed during the war. A relatively simple gun-type fission weapon was made using uranium-235, an isotope that makes up only 0.7 percent of natural uranium. Since it is chemically identical to the main isotope, uranium-238, and has almost the same mass, it proved difficult to separate. Three methods were employed for uranium enrichment: electromagnetic, gaseous and thermal. Most of this work was performed at Oak Ridge, Tennessee. In parallel with the work on uranium was an effort to produce plutonium. Reactors were constructed at Hanford, Washington, in which uranium was irradiated and transmuted into plutonium. The plutonium was then chemically separated from the uranium. The gun-type design proved impractical to use with plutonium so a more complex implosion-type weapon was developed in a concerted design and construction effort at the project's weapons research and design laboratory in Los Alamos, New Mexico. The first nuclear device ever detonated was an implosion-type bomb at the Trinity test, conducted at New Mexico's Alamogordo Bombing and Gunnery Range on 16 July 1945. Little Boy, a gun-type weapon, and the implosion-type Fat Man were used in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, respectively. The Manhattan Project operated under a blanket of tight security, but Soviet atomic spies still penetrated the program. It was also charged with gathering intelligence on the German nuclear energy project. Through Operation Alsos, Manhattan Project personnel served in Europe, sometimes behind enemy lines, where they gathered nuclear materials and rounded up German scientists. In the immediate postwar years the Manhattan Project conducted weapons testing at Bikini Atoll as part of Operation Crossroads, developed new weapons, promoted the development of the network of national laboratories, supported medical research into radiology and laid the foundations for the nuclear navy. It maintained control over American atomic weapons research and production until the formation of the United States Atomic Energy Commission in January 1947. ======================================== Atomic Spies & Venona Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_spies "Atomic spies" and "Atom spies" are terms that refer to various people in the United States, Great Britain, and Canada who are thought to have illicitly given information about nuclear weapons production or design to the Soviet Union during World War II and the early Cold War. Exactly what was given, and whether everyone on the list gave it, is still a matter of some scholarly dispute, and in some cases what were originally seen as strong testimonies or confessions were admitted as fabricated in later years. Their work constitutes the most publicly well-known and well-documented case of nuclear espionage in the history of nuclear weapons. There was a movement among nuclear scientists to share the information with the world scientific community, but that was firmly quashed by the American government. Whether the information significantly aided the speed of the Soviet atomic bomb project is also disputed. While some of the information given could have aided in developing a nuclear weapon, the manner in which the heads of the Soviet bomb project actually used the information has led scholars to doubt its role in increasing the speed of development. According to this account, Igor Kurchatov and Lavrenty Beria used the information primarily as a "check" against their own scientists' work and did not liberally share the information with them, distrusting both their own scientists as well as the espionage information. Later scholarship has also shown that the decisive brake on early Soviet development was not problems in weapons design but, as in the Manhattan Project, the difficulty in procuring fissile materials, especially since the Soviet Union had no uranium deposits known when it began its program (unlike the United States). Confirmation about espionage work came from the VENONA project, which intercepted and decrypted Soviet intelligence reports sent during and after World War II. These provided clues to the identity of several spies at Los Alamos and elsewhere, some of whom have never been identified. Some of this information was available, but not usable in court for secrecy reasons, during the trials of the 1950s. As well records from Soviet archives, which were briefly opened to researchers after the fall of the Soviet Union, included more information about some spies. Exhibit 8 at the trial of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, a drawing of an implosion-design nuclear weapon by David Greenglass, created a few days before the trial began in 1951. The drawing was the first time the implosion design was allowed to be made public. Despite being declassified by the Atomic Energy Commission, it was immediately impounded as a threat to national security by the Rosenbergs' lawer, and was only released in 1966 after an investigation into the Rosenberg trial evidence (where it was criticized by experts as very crude and not of any likely intelligence value). The missing element that explains the great leaps in the Soviets Union’s atomic program is the espionage information and technical data Moscow was able to obtain from the Manhattan Project. Upon the realization of the American plans to develop an atomic bomb during the 1930s, Moscow began actively seeking agents to get information.nMoscow was very specific in asking for information from their intelligence cells in America and demanded updates on the progress of the allied project. Moscow was also greatly concerned with the procedures being used for U-235 separation, what method of detonation was being used, and what industrial equipment was being used for these techniques. To obtain this information from the Manhattan Project, the Soviet Union needed spies that, first of all, had security clearance high enough to have access to classified information, and secondly, could understand and interpret what they were stealing. Moscow also needed reliable spies who believed in the communist cause and would provide accurate information. One such Soviet spy was Theodore Hall, who had been a developer on the bombs dropped in Japan. Hall gave up the specifications of the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. This information allowed the Soviet scientists a firsthand look at the successful set up of an atomic weapon built by the Allied team. Venona Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Soviet_secret_police_agencies http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/venona/index.shtml 'Spies who spilled Atomic Bomb Secrets' http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/Spies-Who-Spilled-Atomic-Bomb-Secrets.html?device=iphone The Venona project was a long-running secret collaboration of the United States and United Kingdom intelligence agencies involving cryptanalysis of messages sent by intelligence agencies of the Soviet Union, the majority of them during World War II. At least 13 codewords for the project were used by American and British intelligence agencies, including the National Security Agency (NSA); "Venona", a term with no known meaning, was the last. (In the decrypted documents issued from the NSA, "VENONA" is written in capitals, but lowercase is common in modern journalism.) It was not until 1995 project materials were released by the U.S. government. Analysis supported some criminal spy cases, such as that against Julius Rosenberg for some of the charges, but cast doubt on the case against his wife Ethel Rosenberg. During the initial years of the Cold War, the Venona project was a source of information on Soviet intelligence-gathering activity that was directed at the Western military powers. Although unknown to the public, and even to Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman, these programs were of importance concerning crucial events of the early Cold War. These included the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg spying case and the defections of Donald Maclean and Guy Burgess to the Soviet Union. Most decipherable messages were transmitted and intercepted between 1942 and 1945. Sometime in 1945, the existence of the Venona program was revealed to the Soviet Union by the NKVD agent and United States Army SIGINT analyst and cryptologist Bill Weisband. These messages were slowly and gradually decrypted beginning in 1946 and continuing (many times at a low-level of effort in the latter years) through 1980, when the Venona program was terminated, and the remaining amount of effort that was being spent on it was moved to more important projects. The Venona Project was initiated in 1943, under orders from the deputy Chief of Military Intelligence (G-2), Carter W. Clarke. Clarke distrusted Joseph Stalin, and feared that the Soviet Union would sign a separate peace with the Third Reich, allowing Germany to focus its military forces against Great Britain and the United States. Code-breakers of the US Army's Signal Intelligence Service (commonly called Arlington Hall) analyzed encrypted high-level Soviet diplomatic intelligence messages intercepted in large volumes during and immediately after World War II by American, British, and Australian listening posts. The Soviet systems in general used a code to convert words and letters into numbers, to which additive keys (from one-time pads) were added, encrypting the content. When used correctly, one-time pad encryption is unbreakable. Cryptanalysis by American and British code-breakers revealed that some of the one-time pad material had incorrectly been reused by the Soviets (specifically, entire pages, although not complete books), which allowed decryption (sometimes only partial) of a small part of the traffic. Generating the one-time pads was a slow and labor-intensive process, and the outbreak of war with Germany in June 1941 caused a sudden increase in the need for coded messages. It is probable that the Soviet code generators started duplicating cipher pages in order to keep up with demand. A young Meredith Gardner then used this material to break into what turned out to be NKVD (and later GRU) traffic by reconstructing the code used to convert text to numbers. Samuel Chew and Cecil Phillips also made valuable contributions. On 20 December 1946, Gardner made the first break into the code, revealing the existence of Soviet espionage in the Manhattan Project. Venona messages also indicated that Soviet spies worked in Washington in the State Department, Treasury, Office of Strategic Services, and even the White House. Very slowly, using assorted techniques ranging from traffic analysis to defector information, more of the messages were decrypted. The Office of Strategic Services, the predecessor to the CIA, housed at one time or another between fifteen and twenty Soviet spies. Duncan Lee, Donald Wheeler, Jane Foster Zlatowski, and Maurice Halperin passed information to Moscow. The War Production Board, the Board of Economic Warfare, the Office of the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs and the Office of War Information, included at least half a dozen Soviet sources each among their employees. In the opinion of some, almost every American military and diplomatic agency of any importance was compromised to some extent by Soviet espionage. ======================================== The Hanford Site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site http://www.hanford.gov/ The Hanford Site is a mostly decommissioned nuclear production complex on the Columbia River in the U.S. state of Washington, operated by the United States federal government. The site has been known by many names, including Hanford Works, Hanford Engineer Works or HEW, Hanford Nuclear Reservation or HNR, and the Hanford Project. Established in 1943 as part of the Manhattan Project in the town of Hanford in south-central Washington, the site was home to the B Reactor, the first full-scale plutonium production reactor in the world. Plutonium manufactured at the site was used in the first nuclear bomb, tested at the Trinity site, and in Fat Man, the bomb detonated over Nagasaki, Japan. During the Cold War, the project was expanded to include nine nuclear reactors and five large plutonium processing complexes, which produced plutonium for most of the 60,000 weapons in the U.S. nuclear arsenal. Nuclear technology developed rapidly during this period, and Hanford scientists produced many notable technological achievements. Many of the early safety procedures and waste disposal practices were inadequate, and government documents have since confirmed that Hanford's operations released significant amounts of radioactive materials into the air and the Columbia River, which threatened the health of residents and ecosystems. In 1941, the United States entered World War II. Manhattan Engineering District was formed in June 1942 to build industrial plants to make Plutonium-239 and Uranium-235. In December of that year, Col. Frankin T. Matthias scouted the western United States to find a suitable site for the plutonium production facilities. Matthias reported Hanford's site was "far more favorable in virtually all respects than any other." In January 1943 the decision was made to build the production facilities at Hanford. Citizens were made to leave their homes. In the 30 months between groundbreaking in March 1943 and the end of the war in 1945, and for a cost of $230 million, workers built 554 nonresidential buildings, including B, D, and F reactors, T, B and U processing canyons, 64 underground tanks, fuel fabricating buildings in the 300 area, 386 miles of roadway, 158 miles of railroad lines, and a new city of Richland which could house 17,500. Plutonium from Hanford's reactors went into the Trinity test bomb and into the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Japan surrendered unconditionally within a week. After World War II, there was a lull at Hanford. But by 1947 the Cold War was underway, and the first postwar expansion at Hanford quickly followed. The Korean War led to the next expansion of operations. Hanford's plutonium production reached its peak between 1956 and 1963, with 9 reactors along the river making plutonium. The newest reactor, N Reactor, also made steam and had an electrical power plant. Production began to slow in 1965, and stopped altogether in 1989. Plans to clean up the wastes began as early as 1958 (two years after the first tank leaks were reported) and continue today. Regulation of Hanford began in 1989 with the signing of the Tri-Party Agreement between the U.S. Department of Energy, Washington State Department of Ecology and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. =================================== Fast Flux Test Facility [soundcloud][/soundcloud] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Flux_Test_Facility The Fast Flux Test Facility is a 400 MW nuclear test reactor owned by the U.S. Department of Energy. It is situated in the 400 Area of the Hanford Site, which is located in the state of Washington. History The construction of the FFTF was completed in 1978, and the first reaction took place in 1980. From April 1982 to April 1992 it operated as a national research facility to test various aspects of commercial reactor design and operation, especially relating to breeder reactors. The FFTF is not a breeder reactor itself, but rather a sodium-cooled Fast neutron reactor, as the name suggests. It is stated on the site dedicated to the FFTF, that it tested "advanced nuclear fuels, materials, components, nuclear power plant operations and maintenance protocols, and reactor safety designs." By 1993, the number of uses to which the reactor could be put was diminishing, so the decision was taken in December of that year to deactivate it. Over the next three years, the active parts of the facility were gradually halted, fuel rods removed and stored in above-ground dry storage vessels. However, in January 1997, the DOE ordered that the reactor be maintained in a standby condition, pending a decision as to whether to incorporate it into the US Government's tritium production program, for both medical and fusion research. Since then, due to legal wrangling, decommissioning has been stopped and restarted at intervals. In December 2001, the deactivation was continued, after the DOE found that it was not needed for tritium production. Work was halted in 2002 when court action was begun. As of May 2003, deactivation has continued, and it is currently in a state of cold standby. Also at the 400 Area (outside the FFTF PPA) is a mammoth structure called the Fuels and Materials Examination Facility (FMEF). Although the FMEF was intended to be a support building for the FFTF and the future Liquid Fast-Breeder Reactor Program, the FMEF was never used in any kind of a nuclear capacity. When the nation abandoned the breeder reactor program, FMEF was also left without a mission, and remains unused and largely vacant today. =================================== Hanford's Green Run http://www.nuclearcrimes.org/4-4.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run The "Green Run" was a secret U.S. Government release of radioactive fission products on December 2–3, 1949, at the Hanford Site plutonium production facility. Radioisotopes released at that time were supposed to be detected by U.S. Air Force reconnaissance. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the U.S. Government have revealed some of the details of the experiment. Sources cite 5,500 to 12,000 curies (200 to 440 TBq) of iodine-131 released, and an even greater amount of Xenon-133. The radiation was distributed over populated areas, and caused the cessation of intentional radioactive releases at Hanford until 1962 when more experiments commenced. There are some indications contained in the documents released by the FOIA requests that many other tests were conducted in the 1940s prior to the Green Run, although the Green Run was a particularly large test. Evidence suggest that filters to remove the iodine were disabled during the Green Run. The project gets its name from the processing of uranium at Hanford. Due to the higher radioactivity involved, batch processing waited 83 to 101 days to allow the radioactive isotopes to decay. For the Green Run test, a batch was run with only a 16 day cooling period. The unfiltered exhaust from the production facility was therefore much more radioactive than during a normal batch. One of the worst fallout incidents from Hanford was a radiation dispersal experiment like the RaLa tests at Los Alamos. In what has become known as the 'Green Run,' Hanford scientists, in 1949, intentionally released tens of thousands of Curies of radioactive Iodine-131, equal to hundreds of times the quantity of radioiodine released during the 1979 Three Mile Island accident. This was Hanford's largest single release of Iodine-131 in its history. The purpose of the 'Green Run' was to test methods of detecting radiation from Russia's nuclear weapons programs.13 Conducted during poor weather conditions, the plumes from the Green Run release stagnated in the local area for several days before a storm front dispersed it towards the north-northeast. Parts of the plume eventually drifted in various other directions for as far as 70 miles. To this day, there are significant details about Green Run that are being withheld by the U.S. Department of Energy, which is an action (or lack of action) that violates the public's 'right to know'. What's there to know? For one, Green Run may have caused significant public health damage in the Northwest but this cannot be fully determined without revealing all there is to know about the experiment. Two, as Washingtonian Jim Thomas, who has written a book about Hanford, pointed out in an online article titled 'Hanford's Secret Green Run,' culpability is a concern. Thomas writes: "Even though it is nearly 60 years since the Green Run, the U.S. government refuses to make public the name of the person who authorized the experiment, his position and agency within the government, and the reason for the secret test."
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Welcome to CoDz Chris! People are always after Flash signatures & avatars. You should make a thread in the 'Media' section & show off some of your designs. Have a look around & Enjoy your Slay!
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Merry Christmas Alpha & CoDz, I hope your as active as ever once our storyline kicks into gear in 2013. Im looking forward to it. Rock On All!
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I have been thinking about this the last couple of days. I was trying to think of a way to create a decent discussion/thread about this since it has not been mentioned at all since the games release. AlphaSnake brought it up when it was noticed HERE in the trailer video & we have not spoken of it since? I think that the blueprint is very significant since it contains the SAME image as what was on the Der Riese Loading Screen. Is this implying that an Americans developed the Teleporters & Group 935 aquired the Technology? Was Marlton the Scientist behind its invention? I can't figure out what the 'parts breakdown' is referring to? Is it the Jet Gun? Im unsure what else to add/question about this? I think this is highly important yet has not been discussed.
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Only trust 3 media outlets. 1. 3arc Developer Twitter accounts 2. Black Ops 2 Webpage 3. 3arc/Black Ops 2 Facebook page. Everything else is Bullshit or an idea/troll
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Anyone else want to play as the O4?
PINNAZ replied to Marty Mcdempsey's topic in General Zombies Discussion
Not that I read books, but Have you ever considered that we are in the middle of an EPIC STORYLINE? TranZit/Green Run sets the scene for the story in which we discovered at Der Riese, that the Americans had an abundance of Element 115. But what are doing at the Hanford Nuclear Site? To my displeasure, 3arc in my opinion have not included nor given obvious information to us about the story background of our playable characters....... yet. We must wait until DLC. For the sake of the fans & to keep the interest this should be available ASAP. We're you this disappointed at this present time after playing the map FIVE? We had little to no information about the continuation of the O4 at Der Riese, with no Major Mystery Hunt & only minimal storyline clues. Please be patient, this will be a climatic event for all once unveiled. In the meantime, happy Slaying! -
Welcome to CoDz Cruiz! It's good to get some older gamers signing up here. Be sure to browse all the different forum discussions & if you've got time on your hands there's plenty to read. Enjoy your Slay!
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I wrote this in the 'other' Nuketown EE Thread. I've always thought that the 'Power Sockets' inside the houses may trigger something. When shot they stay broken, unlike the 'Light Switches' which respawn to normal after each round or after time. Some of the power switches are hidden & can be hard to find. The trick is if any of them are out of the map in a different house or building or inside a building which you can't enter - i.e. Garden Shed. Also the 2 switches, 1 on the outside of each house. There is what looks like a 'Blue SD Card' inside. Plus the 3 'Power Generators', 1 at the spawn point next to the house, 1 over the fence in the backyard & the large one at the end of the street. Electricity seems to play a big part in BO2 Zombies in an Apocalyptic world. (I hope this isn't like Kino where the switches did nothing) I've shot quite a few of them but may of missed some, it's just trying to figure the first steps to get the hunt going. I've been away & haven't been able to play in a few weeks. Here's to hoping there is a Side Quest for Nuketown Zombies!
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It might be but some people might find your wording offensive. I said it fast, 10 times and it doesn't sound anything like that lol XD You don't think it rhymes? Oh well, I started looking into what this sign means since about day 3 & Ive got no idea. I'll leave it to you guys.
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Some interesting finds in the real location of Green Run
PINNAZ replied to MonopolyMan's topic in TranZit
Nice finds. I posted about White Bluffs awhile back in the 'Useless Church' thread. The link below is a really good page about White Bluffs & it's buildings. White Bluffs is actually closer to our actual Green Run Bus Route than Hanford is. http://ebchs.org/architecture/WhiteBluffs/h_whitebluffs_buildings.htm White Bluffs First Bank (outside & inside) I also found this picture of a proposed Catholic Church that was taken from a White Bluffs Picture but can't find if it was ever built or not. Regarding the Bus, remember that the License Plate says Colorado 1960 I think that the bus is a 1959 era 'GMC New Look' Bus. This is the closest I can find anyway. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_New_Look_bus And the Bus Depot/Terminal is based of 'Greyhound Buslines' which bought Consolidated Coach Corporation. As the Bus Driver mentions. http://www.greyhound.com/en/about/historicaltimeline.aspx If you want to find out more about the Tri-cities, the picture of Atomic Frontier Days is actually a book about the area turning from agricultural towns into a Nuclear Industry. Atomic Frontier Days A lot of people posted a lot of this info about a month ago but it gets buried within the forum. Well done in finding this stuff yourself though. Good Research! -
I came up with this idea that the plane you see outside the original 'NDU' may have been carrying scientists & soilders as part of 'Operation Paperclip'. The plane was carrying Element 115 & Nuclear Scientists back to Hanford to begin work on the Nuclear developments. (remember that Hanford developed the Nuclear bomb that was dropped on Japan) Because NDU was the first map & at the time had no relation to a story, this may be a way that it is now incorporated into it. Was NDU located at the Hanford Site? Operation Paperclip brought back Nazi Nuclear Scientists to the Hanford Nuclear Site? There's lots of flaws with this theory but it could work.
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