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I'm very, very sceptical that this is going to be in any way correct. The only thing that keeps my faith is the 'Operation Cedar Falls' board found in the Campaign Mission where you meet JFK. JFK died in 1963 & the US didn't enter combat troops in the vietnam war until 1965. Operation Cedar Falls occured in 1967. That board should not be there in that campaign mission. Treyarch either made a mess of factual dates or it's something else. Why would this operation board be in the shadows of the war room in both Zombies & the campaign? The Hue Citadel would be a cool place for a map, though it is along way from the Iron Triangle, the tunnels were used for the Tet Offensive. The Hanoi Hilton has nothing to do with the Iron Triangle as it is in North Vietnam, I just thought I'd include it cause I had the info there. All three of these have little to do with the Iron Triangle, but they are all closely linked to each other. Here is a great document that details everything to do with Operation Cedar Falls & the Iron Triangle. When I get time I'll add some to my O.P. U.S. Army Center for Military History Document http://www.history.army.mil/books/Vietnam/90-7/cont.htm I think the Warehouse boxes on the NDU loading screen may be hints to future map origins, it will be interesting if this is the last Zombies game or if there is one more. If there is one more game, these countries may be split over the 2 games. It all depends on what map comes next. As for a map in Cuba, there's endless possibilities. It could even be incorporated into some type of Bermuda Triangle / Atlantis map? The map chapter names don't reflect the actual layout or history of the gameplay map itself. The countries on the Warehouse boxes all had ties to each other throughout the Cold War/Vietnam War, they are all Communist/Socialist Countries & funnily enough all had a 'Revolution' around the same timeframe. Revolution is an interesting name for the first DLC & also the campaign was all about the Revolution. As I said it all depends on what the next map is called & if the 'historical event' map chapter name is from the end of the 60's, I think it will come down to "The Fall of Communism" in 1989 Green Run - 1949 Great Leap Foward 1958-on DLC 2 - Late 1960's (so many historical events to choose from) DLC 3 - Late 1970's DLC 4 - 1989 (Fall of Communism) The next map will give us some type of pattern.

I think this quote is activated when you throw a QED & a Red power-up appears, if it is collected & nothing happens

Taken from Shooter's Moon quotes transcripts HERE There's probably a few more relevant quotes in that thread

Yes there are many items in the FIVE labs/basement which are reused in the Pack-a-Punch hallway in TranZit. The keypads on the doors, the warehouse rooms, the pallet trolleys/jacks, some containers & I think even the cages are the same? I haven't really compared the power room in TranZit, though as you say the computers may even be the same. I can understand that these things might be the same technology/manufacture as both maps are in America, but even some of the cars in TranZit are the same as the ones in Kino Der Toten? Are these reused textures or something more?

I would take all of this as fairly accurate. I had originally asked a friend I work with & if you look at my first post, everything I have written was pretty close to what Dragon replied with. When I asked my friend, I didn't write anything down so what I posted was what I could remember. With the International Zombie Center, I did have a laugh at that. My friend said "International ? Center, I don't know what that middle word says?" as I hadn't told him all of the pictures were from COD Zombies. A quick 'goggle translate' showed the following. (I did have to change to middle 2 words to make it match up, but it does match) International Zombie Center - 国 际 丧 尸 中 心

I came across this today - (it's only bacteria though) There's photos & a video on the site too. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/03/10/lake-vostok-life-russian-scientists_n_2838097.html?icid=hp_science_gallery Lake Vostok Life Found Nowhere Else On Earth, Russian Scientists Report Antarctica's vast Lake Vostok contains life—including at least one form of life not found elsewhere on Earth, Russian scientists announced today. Preliminary analyses of water samples collected from the lake earlier this year revealed a species of bacteria not belonging to any known subkingdoms. "We call it unidentified and 'unclassified' life," the team's leader, Sergei Bulat of the St. Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, told Russian news agency RIA Novosti. The bacteria's DNA was less than 86% similar to known bacterial DNA, indicating that it was a new species, Bulat said. The Russian team retrieved the samples in January, one year after successfully completing the 4000-meter drilling through ice to reach the lake's surface. To confirm the preliminary finding, the team plans to collect new samples of water from the lake during a return expedition, reportedly in May, although that's the middle of the Antarctic winter.

Mend the Rift = getting Samantha's soul back into her body & getting Richtofen out of the Pyramid.

Nice connections Mr Mocking! I like how you can tie in your other thread about the atmosphere being clear. There is something about the sky on Die Rise, I'm sure of it. Great thread once again, you really do work your brain to the bone! PS. Your title says June, you mean January don't you?

Disclaimer: I am by no means qualified to write any of this. It is mearly a lot of reading & basically copy & paste. I have just provided some basic information in which you can learn more from by your own means. Warning:This is a long one… A very big thanks to MixMasterNut & AlphaSnake for posting some awesome topics on this subject which have given me so many ideas such as this & things to research. Cheers! This might not be the next map & I may be completely off here, but I’m confident we are going to Vietnam at some point. This post is going to have many different parts to it, varying in many different locations & events, but I think they are all tied together within a short time frame. This idea came from reading many different threads here on CoDz as well as some possible hints from FIVE & Die Rise as well as the BO1 Campaign Intel. What does this have to do with Zombies? I don't know, you tell me. ======================================== This is where my idea came from, we will start here… Die Rise features 3 calendars, 2 show only the month of (possibly) January, yet their starting day varies & the other shows all 12 months. One looks like it may start on Monday & may be a traditional Chinese calendar. The second one may start on a Sunday & may be referred as a ‘Western Business Day’ Calendar. The important hint here is January Also, throughout the map there are ‘Happy New Year’ banners & posters. Both the calendars & New Year posters may just relate to Die Rise being released on January 29 & the Chinese New Year occurred on February 10, 2013. This fits with the release on the DLC. But there is also something else about January 29. So I decided to look further into Chinese New Year & I came across Vietnamese New Year known as ‘Tet’. I instantly thought back to the Black Ops 1 campaign missions such as :- S.O.G. (Khe Sanh, South Vietnam - January 21, 1968) The Defector ( Huế, South Vietnam - February 2, 1968) Crash Site (Laos/Vietnam Border - February 11, 1968) This post mainly revolves around the ‘Iron Triangle’ & the ‘Tet Offensive’ ======================================== Nacht Der Untoten Loading Screen Vietnam – Right hand bottom box Vietnam Office sign found in 'FIVE' [tab][/tab] The Viet Cong / National Liberation Front http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietcong The Viet Cong or National Liberation Front (NLF) was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975), and emerged on the winning side. The Viet Cong's best-known action was the Tet Offensive, a massive assault on more than 100 South Vietnamese urban centers in 1968, including an attack on the US embassy in Saigon. The offensive riveted the attention of the world's media for weeks, but also overextended the Viet Cong. Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Revolutionary_Government_of_the_Republic_of_South_Vietnam The Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam, or PRG, was formed on June 8, 1969 as an underground government opposed to the South Vietnamese government of President Nguyễn Văn Thiệu. Delegates of the National Liberation Front (the Vietcong), as well as several smaller groups, participated in its creation. The PRG was recognized as the government of South Vietnam by most communist states. It signed 1973 Paris Peace Treaty as a separate party. It became the provisional government of South Vietnam following the military defeat of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam on April 30, 1975. On July 2, 1976, the PRG and North Vietnam merged to form the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. ======================================== The Iron Triangle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Triangle_(Vietnam) Great Websites documenting the Vietnam War http://www.vietnamwar.net/IronTriangle.htm http://dunlapsite.com/Dunlap/VietNam/VietNam.htm The Iron Triangle (Vietnamese:Tam Giác Sắt) was a 120 square miles (310 km2) area in the Binh Duong Province of Vietnam, so named due to it being a stronghold of Viet Minh activity during the war. The region was under control of the Viet Minh throughout the French war in Vietnam and continued to be so throughout the phase of American involvement in the Vietnam War, despite concerted efforts on the part of US and South Vietnamese forces to destabilize the region as a power base for their enemy, the communist North Vietnamese-sponsored and -directed South Vietnamese insurgent movement, the National Liberation Front or Viet Cong (NLF). Geography The Location of the Iron Triangle was between the Saigon River on the west and the Tinh River on the east and bordering Route 13 about 25 miles (40 km) north of Saigon. The southern apex of the "triangle" was seven miles (11 km) from Phu Cong, the capital of Binh Duong Province. Its proximity to Saigon was both a reason for American and South Vietnamese efforts to eradicate it, as well as why it remained a crucial area for Communist forces to maintain control over. The American War The tunnels were expanded further after the war with the French as a base for underground operations against the Ngo Dinh Diem government and later US-backed South Vietnamese governments. The tunnel system at its height was said to have over 30,000 miles (48,000 km) of tunnels throughout North and South Vietnam, with hundreds of miles of these located in the Iron Triangle, especially concentrated in the area around the town of Cu Chi. Due to the threat that the Cu Chi tunnels posed to the Saigon Government, the United States stepped up its military offensive in the region in the fall of 1966 and 1967. They launched three operations during this time: Operation Attleboro, Operation Cedar Falls and Operation Junction City. Operation Cedar Falls was an especially intensive attack involving nearly 16,000 American troops and 14,000 soldiers of the South Vietnamese Army. The Operation took nineteen days and 72 Americans and 720 Viet Cong were killed. Despite their massive attack with B-52 bombers and Rome plows and efforts to destroy the tunnel system with explosives, flooding, and "tunnel rats" (specially trained soldiers who would infiltrate the tunnels armed only with a flashlight and a handgun), the Americans failed to totally destroy the Viet Cong support system that had been built for over two decades. The Iron Triangle at the end of the Vietnam War The area remained an active organizing center for the Viet Cong right through to the end of the war, due to both its undeniable strategic importance, as well as support from local populations who had been negatively impacted by the American bombing campaign. In April, 1975, General Van Tien Dung, political bureau members Pham Hung and Le Duc Tho and southern military commander Tran Van Tra all joined together in the Iron Triangle region to orchestrate the final, decisive attack on Saigon. The area had remained allied with the nationalist communist forces from the beginning of the French war in 1946 to the fall of Saigon in 1975: an exception in a country often torn region by region between control by American forces and control by the Viet Cong. ======================================== Operation Cedar Falls http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cedar_Falls See Also – Operation Attleboro Operation Junction City Operation Cedar Falls was a military operation of the Vietnam War conducted primarily by US forces. The aim of this massive search and destroy operation was to eradicate the so-called "Iron Triangle", an area located in close proximity to Saigon which had become a major stronghold of the communist National Liberation Front (NLF) or Viet Cong. The operation began on January 8, 1967 and ended on January 28, 1967. Operation Cedar Falls was the largest American ground operation of the Vietnam war: Two Army divisions, one infantry and one paratrooper brigade, as well as one armored cavalry regiment participated in the operation; altogether, Operation Cedar Falls involved 30,000 US and South Vietnamese troops. The Vietcong, however, chose to evade this massive military force by either fleeing across the border to Cambodia or hiding in a complex system of underground tunnels. Nevertheless, the allied forces uncovered and destroyed some of the tunnel complexes as well as large stockpiles of Vietcong supplies. In the course of the operation, so-called tunnel rats were introduced to infiltrate Vietcong tunnel systems. (I had already included 'Operation Cedar Falls' in this. I also did some more hint hunting on FIVE, when I came across this board.) Operation Cedar Falls plan found in the PaP room on 'FIVE' Results and Aftermath Operation Cedar Falls was officially terminated on January 26, 1967. The American military claimed that in its course almost 750 Vietcong were killed, 280 were taken prisoner, and 540 defected in the so-called Chieu Hoi ("open-arms") program; an additional 512 suspects were detained and almost 6,000 individuals were deported. Moreover, allied forces captured 23 crew served weapons, 590 individual weapons, over 2,800 explosive items, 60,000 rounds of small arms ammunition, and enough rice to feed 13,000 troops for an entire year. Also, large amounts of enemy documents were obtained and a massive complex of underground tunnels, bunkers, and other structures was destroyed. Some 100 bunkers, 25 tunnels, and over 500 structures were destroyed. Finally, in order to deny the NLF cover and make future penetrations of the area simpler, eleven square kilometers of jungle were cleared. In comparison, allied losses were light. US forces lost 72 killed and 337 wounded while South Vietnamese casualties amounted to 11 killed and 8 wounded. U.S. equipment lost included two tanks and five armored personnel carriers destroyed; damage was sustained by three tanks, nine APC's, one tankdozer, two jeeps and two light observation helicopters. The Iron Triangle after January 1967 Whereas the NLF thus suffered a serious setback, its members swiftly managed to re-establish their domination over the Iron Triangle. Two days after the operation's termination, NLF forces re-entered the Iron Triangle and within ten days the area was, according to an official US report, "literally crawling with what appeared to be Vietcong." Only a year after the termination of Operation Cedar Falls, the NLF used this area as a staging ground for their attacks on Saigon during the 1968 Tet Offensive. Operation Cedar Falls preview (1min) ======================================== Cu Chi tunnels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cu_Chi_tunnels http://havecamerawilltravel.com/cu-chi-tunnels-vietnam The tunnels of Củ Chi are an immense network of connecting underground tunnels located in the Củ Chi district of Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), Vietnam, and are part of a much larger network of tunnels that underlie much of the country. The Củ Chi tunnels were the location of several military campaigns during the Vietnam War, and were the Viet Cong's base of operations for the Tet Offensive in 1968. http://travelvietnaminfo.com/cu-chi-tunnels/ The tunnels were used by Viet Cong guerrillas as hiding spots during combat, as well as serving as communication and supply routes, hospitals, food and weapon caches and living quarters for numerous guerrilla fighters. The tunnel systems were of great importance to the Viet Cong in their resistance to American forces, and helped achieve ultimate military success. American soldiers used the term "Black echo" to describe the conditions within the tunnels. For the Viet Cong, life in the tunnels was difficult. Air, food and water were scarce and the tunnels were infested with ants, poisonous centipedes, scorpions, spiders and vermin. Most of the time, guerrillas would spend the day in the tunnels working or resting and come out only at night to scavenge for supplies, tend their crops or engage the enemy in battle. Sometimes, during periods of heavy bombing or American troop movement, they would be forced to remain underground for many days at a time. Sickness was rampant among the people living in the tunnels, especially malaria, which was the second largest cause of death next to battle wounds. A captured Viet Cong report suggests that at any given time half of a PLAF unit had malaria and that “one-hundred percent had intestinal parasites of significance". The tunnels played a major role in the Vietnamese winning the war. 1988 Australian Documentary - Discovery of the Tunnel Network (20mins) History Channel Documetary - Dangerous Missions Tunnel Rats (20mins) ======================================== The Tet Offensive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tet_Offensive The Tet Offensive was a military campaign during the Vietnam War that was launched on January 30, 1968 by forces of the Viet Cong and North Vietnam against South Vietnam, the United States, and their allies. It was a campaign of surprise attacks that were launched against military and civilian command and control centers throughout South Vietnam, during a period when no attacks were supposed to take place. The operations are referred to as the Tet Offensive because there was a prior agreement to "cease fire" during the Tet Lunar New Year celebrations. Both North and South Vietnam announced on national radio broadcasts that there would be a two-day cease-fire during the holiday. Nonetheless, the Communists launched an attack that began during the early morning hours of 30 January 1968, the first day of Tet. In Vietnamese, the offensive is commonly called Tết Mậu Thân (Tet, year of the monkey). Military planners called it the "General Offensive and Uprising" (Cuộc Tổng tiến công và nổi dậy). History Channel Documentary - Declassified: Tet Offensive (45mins) The Communists launched a wave of attacks on the morning of 30 January in the I and II Corps Tactical Zones of South Vietnam. This early attack did not lead to widespread defensive measures. When the main communist operation began the next morning the offensive was countrywide and well coordinated, eventually more than 80,000 Communist troops striking more than 100 towns and cities, including 36 of 44 provincial capitals, five of the six autonomous cities, 72 of 245 district towns, and the southern capital. The offensive was the largest military operation conducted by either side up to that point in the war. The initial attacks stunned the US and South Vietnamese armies and took them by surprise, but most were quickly contained and beaten back, inflicting massive casualties on communist forces. During the Battle of Huế intense fighting lasted for a month resulting in the destruction of the city by US forces while the Communist executed thousands of residents in the Massacre at Huế. Around the US combat base at Khe Sanh fighting continued for two more months. Although the offensive was a military defeat for the communists, it had a profound effect on the US government and shocked the US public, which had been led to believe by its political and military leaders that the communists were, due to previous defeats, incapable of launching such a massive effort. Provided with an enemy intelligence windfall accrued during Operation Cedar Falls and Junction City, the CIA members of the group believed that the number of communist guerrillas, irregulars, and cadre within the South could be as high as 430,000. The MACV Combined Intelligence Center, on the other hand, maintained that the number could be no more than 300,000. Vietnam War - Impact of the Media ======================================== The Imperial City / Huế Citadel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_City,_Hu%E1%BA%BF The Imperial City (Vietnamese: Kinh thành Huế) in Huế is a walled fortress and palace in the former capital of Vietnam. The grounds of the Imperial City were surrounded by a wall 2 kilometers by 2 kilometers, and the walls were surrounded by a moat. The water from the moat was taken from the Huong River (Perfume River) that flows through Huế. This structure is called the citadel. Inside the citadel was the Imperial City, with a perimeter of almost 2.5 kilometers. Inside the Imperial City was the imperial enclosure called the Purple Forbidden City in Vietnamese, a term similar to the Forbidden City in Beijing. The enclosure was reserved for the Nguyễn imperial family. History In June 1802 Nguyễn Phúc Ánh took control of Vietnam and proclaimed himself Emperor Gia Long. His rule was recognized by China in 1804. Gia Long confided with geomancers to decide which was the best place for a new palace and citadel to be built. After the geomancers had decided on a suitable site in Huế, building began in 1804. Thousands of workers were ordered to produce a wall and moat, 10 kilometers long. Initially the walls were earthen, but later these earthen walls were replaced by stone walls, 2 meters thick. The citadel was oriented to face the Huong River to the east. This was different from the Forbidden City in Beijing, which faces south. The Emperor's palace is on the east side of the citadel, nearest the river. A second set of walls and a second moat was constructed around the Emperor's palace. Many more palaces and gates and courtyards and gardens were subsequently added. The rule of the last Vietnamese Emperor lasted until the mid-1900s. At the time, the Purple Forbidden City had many buildings and hundreds of rooms. It suffered from termite and cyclone damage, but was still very impressive. Many bullet holes left over from the war can be observed on the stone walls. Huế Citadel map found in the spawn room on 'FIVE' In the early morning hours of January 31, 1968, as part of the Tet Offensive a Division-sized force of North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong soldiers launched a coordinated attack on Huế seizing most of the city. During the initial phases of the Battle of Hue, due to Huế's religious and cultural status, Allied forces were ordered not to bomb or shell the city, for fear of destroying the historic structures; but as casualties mounted in the house-to-house fighting these restrictions were progressively lifted and the fighting caused substantial damage to the Imperial City. Out of 160 buildings only 10 major sites remain because of the battle, such as the Thái Hòa and Cần Thanh temples, Thế Miếu, and Hiển Lâm Các. The city was made a UNESCO site in 1993. The buildings that still remain are being restored and preserved. The latest and so far the largest restoration project is planned to conclude in 2015. Battle for Huế Citadel (10mins) ======================================== The Battle of Huế http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hue http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~tpilsch/AirOps/hue-battle.html The Battle of Huế during 1968 (also called the Siege of Huế), was one of the bloodiest and longest battles of the Vietnam War (1959–1975). Battalions of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN), two U.S. Army battalions, and three understrength U.S. Marine Corps battalions defeated more than 10,000 soldiers of the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN or NVA) and the Viet Cong (Việt Cộng or VC, also known as National Liberation Front or NLF). With the beginning of the Tet Offensive on January 30, 1968, the Vietnamese lunar New Year (Vietnamese: Tết Nguyên Đán) large conventional American forces had been committed to combat upon Vietnamese soil for almost three years. Passing through the city of Huế, Highway One was an important supply line for ARVN, US and allied forces from the coastal city of Đà Nẵng to the DMZ ]. It also provided access to the Perfume River (Vietnamese: Sông Hương or Hương Giang) at the point the river ran through Huế, dividing the city into northern and southern areas. Huế was also a base for United States Navy supply boats. Considering its logistical value and its proximity to the DMZ (only 50 kilometres (31 mi)), Huế should have been well-defended, fortified, and prepared for any communist attack. However, the city had few fortifications and was poorly defended. The South Vietnamese and U.S. forces were completely unprepared when the North Vietnamese army and Viet Cong failed to observe the promised Tet Truce. Instead, the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army launched a massive assault throughout South Vietnam, attacking hundreds of military targets and population centers across the country, among them the city of Huế. Battle for Huế City (15mins) The North Vietnamese forces rapidly occupied most of the city. Over the next month they were gradually driven out during intense house-to-house fighting led by the Marines. In the end, although the Allies declared a military victory, the city of Huế was virtually destroyed and more than 5000 civilians were killed, more of them executed by the PAVN and Viet Cong (according to the South Vietnamese government). The North Vietnamese forces lost an estimated 2,400 to 8,000 killed, while Allied forces lost 668 dead and 3,707 wounded. The tremendous losses negatively affected the American public's perception of the war and political support for the war began to wane. ======================================== The Hỏa Lò Prison / Hanoi Hilton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanoi_Hilton http://www.rustycompass.com/destinations/detail/city_5-vietnam-hanoi/14-see-and-do/230-hoa-lo-hanoi-hilton-prison-hanoi The Hỏa Lò Prison was a prison used by the French colonists in Vietnam for political prisoners, and later by North Vietnam for prisoners of war during the Vietnam War when it was sarcastically known to American prisoners of war as the "Hanoi Hilton". The prison was demolished during the 1990s, though the gatehouse remains as a museum. French era The name Hoa Lo, commonly translated as "fiery furnace" or even "Hell's hole", also means "stove". The name originated from the street name phố Hỏa Lò, due to the concentration of stores selling wood stoves and coal-fire stoves along the street from pre-colonial times. The prison was built in Hanoi by the French, in dates ranging from 1886–1901, when Vietnam was still part of French Indochina. The French called the prison Maison Centrale — literally, Central House, a traditional euphemism to denote prisons in France. It was located near Hanoi's French Quarter. Vietnam War During the Vietnam War, the first U.S. prisoner to be sent to Hoa Lo was Lieutenant, Junior Grade Everett Alvarez Jr., who was shot down on August 5, 1964. From the beginning, U.S. POWs endured miserable conditions, including poor food and unsanitary conditions. The prison complex was sarcastically nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the American POWs, in reference to the well-known Hilton Hotel chain. There is some disagreement among the first group of POWs who coined the name but F8D pilot Bob Shumakern was the first to write it down, carving "Welcome to the Hanoi Hilton" on the handle of a pail to greet the arrival of Air Force Lieutenant Robert Peel. http://www.kennerly.com/editorial/gallery.php?page=193 Beginning in early 1967, a new area of the prison was opened for incoming American POWs; it was dubbed "Little Vegas", and its individual buildings and areas were named after Las Vegas Strip landmarks, such as "Golden Nugget," "Thunderbird," "Stardust," "Riviera," and the "Desert Inn." These names were chosen because many pilots had trained at Nellis Air Force Base, located in proximity to Las Vegas. A tour of the Hanoi Hilton Checkout this awesome post by AlphaSnake - Frank Woods escape from Hanoi Prison http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=10550(check the date stamp) ======================================== Summary Though I have included the Hanoi Hilton (North Vietnam), The Hue Citadel (Northern region of South Vietnam) & the Iron Triangle (South Vietnam), the Tet Offensive was a major event for the Viet Cong's military push to win the war & had many political implications for the USA. The Tet offensive encompassed many major cities aswell as rural villages & the strength of the Iron Triangle, along with the Cu Cui Tunnel network, influenced the ambush on Saigon which nearly saw the loss of South Vietnam & the entire eastern part of the continent to the communists. If what I think the chapter names reflect & the direction of the history lessons 3arc are giving us, I think the following DLC's will all be in communist countries & each chapter name will be from an event at the end of each decade, leading up to this - Revolutions of 1989 - the Fall of Communism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1989 ======================================== Bonus:- Australian Band 'The Herd' cover of the famous Vietnam War song by Redgum - 'I was only 19' Redgum's Original Version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAwvH8FbdjM

Great Slave Lake. It is in Canada. A Russian nuclear Satelitte crashed there causing a political storm & an environmental disaster.

Check this thread. It's the same question. I posted some pictures aswell. This is in the Green Run map discussion. http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=26572

Great post Scrodamoon! Made me laugh. We dont want to get them tingleing too much over zombies! I think 3arc just put all these conspiracies in because this kind of research is pretty much what made CallofDutyZombies.com it's like a shout out to the legends who made this storyline. I was sure we were going to have one of these secret underground bases as a map. So many of them have the conspiracy that they are connected by an underground subway system. Anyway, welcome to CoDz. I'm glad you enjoyed the read.

This is exactly the point I was trying to address in one of my previous threads. This map is pretty boring after you play it for a while. After you've done everything in the early rounds, there's literally NOTHING to do but train or camp. That my friends, is the game of Zombies. Try doing room, weapon or no perk/PaP challenges. Or troll your friends by flinging them off the building by putting trample steams in front of them?

There is a RIP name on the tombstone perk machine. The name (I forget) is a graphics developer or something to do with video games. This same RIP name was also on a Modern Warfare game on an actual tombstone in a graveyard. Sorry I can't tell you specifics, but that's what it is about.

Tranzit & Die Rise have 'side quests' - that makes it a game mode.

This is a great thread Mix. From the Mural to that ball & everything inbetween, you where even posting the Great Leap Forward propaganda! Those links are down to btw, I wish I could view them http://jproc.ca/crypto/hotline.html "As a result of the Cuban missile crisis the long, talked-about "hot line" between Washington and Moscow was to become a reality. On 20th June, 1963, at Geneva, Switzerland , the United States and the Soviet Union signed a Memorandum of Understanding that set up a duplex cable circuit routed from Washington-London-Copenhagen-Stockholm-Helsinki to Moscow for primary political communications and a duplex radio circuit routed from Washington to Tangier to Moscow for service communications and as a back-up. The hotline became operative August 30, 1963. Because the link was not in constant use it had to be tested each day. This called for creative dialogue between two archenemies. Poems and stories of all sorts were exchanged. Sometimes baseball game scores from the American side or excerpts from Ivan Turgenev's "Notes of a Hunter" on the Soviet side were transmitted. However, some of the exchanges caused puzzlement on the Soviet end. One day, Andrei Gromyko asked Dean Rusk 'What does it mean when your people say, "the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog?" NO TELEPHONES ON THE HOT LINE The white paper "Origins, Use and Development of Hotlines" addresses the myth of telephones on the Hot Line. "One of the lasting myths surrounding the Hot Line is that it consists of a telephone link. This was considered by both superpowers but there were strong arguments against using a telephone connection. All parties concerned preferred a teletype link. The Americans pointed out that a teletype system on a reserved line could have dual capabilities and be used for voice communications should that prove desirable. Nevertheless, the image of the hot line as a telephone link has prevailed. This misunderstanding is not confined to the public. When it was suggested in the U.S. State Department in 1983 that speech facilities should be added to the hot line, many officials believed it already had a telephone as seen in the movies! - sorry to be so far off topic. The same goes with the Operation Cedar Falls board (in FIVE), that did not occur until 1967. JFK wasn't around then. I know they are still reused textures (that really bugs me) but I still think it hints at something for it to be there.

A belated welcome to CoDz Mr Cricket. 200 odd posts & now for your introduction. Keep up the good work mate & stay active if you can. Enjoy your Slay!

Fixed the link for you. You did it correctly except for some reason it had https instead of just http. Using [ytfull] allows people like me who use CoDz on smart phones & tablets to actually see the video. Add this to your OP. Incorrect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kck-uTg8_DE Correct http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kck-uTg8_DE

Yes. Call of Duty : World at War. It's probably cheaper to buy the game from a shop than online, but you will have to buy the 3 DLC's from Xbox live. World at War Zombies is better than the classic maps pack in my opinion.

The first zombies game was Call of Duty : World at War. It had 3 DLC's. Verrückt, Shi No Numa & Der Riese. These are also available on Black Ops 1 titled as 'Classic Maps Pack' World at War was a great & very difficult game. You will only get Nacht Der Untoten with it & you will have to pay for the 3 DLC's seperatley. Where as, if you bought the Classic Maps Pack for Black Ops 1, you will get all 4 World at War maps. The classic maps pack features the Black ops era weapons instead of the WW2 era weapons. Check Xbox live or PSN store to download & see what is cheaper to download. WaW + 3 DLC's or the Classic Maps Pack (there was a special on the weekend for all COd titles, so you may have just missed getting them cheaper)

I discovered COD Zombies the first time I finished World at War. I thought it was a great & difficult side game, though I didn't fully get into zombies until the Shi No Numa DLC. I mainly played SNN for the achievements, then I found the Radio's myself & wanted to know more of this mysterious story. Some how I never played a lot of Verrückt until probably after Der Riese. Verrückt really creeped me out actually. Ive lurked CoDz ever since & for some reason got quite addicted to zombies in the last year. I finally joined CoDz at the end of last year just before the release if BO2 hoping it would be better than ever. What about you?

Yeah tell me about. All the screenshots I took on Die Rise seem like nothing aswell, apart from "International Zombie Centre"

Great work mate. This is a great library with links to some great threads. Here are alternative links to the Zombie Training, Research Facility & Asylum Forums. They are sorted in beginning & ascending order so that you won't have to deal with any of the spam threads. These links will take you to each category's complete forum list. CoDz Training Facility Zombie Research Facility Asylum There is lots of story information within those 3 forums for anyone that is new to COD Zombies. :twisted:

Welcome. CoDz has an abundance of information on Zombies! If your looking for some team mates to play with, check out the team mate finder at the top of the homepage. Or get stuck into one of the discussions. Be sure to search every nook and cranny of this great site & if you ever need help just ask. Enjoy your Slay!

It might be a bit loose to say that C 72 29 equates to the 'Huey' helicopter. That is the registration of one chopper & it's rego is only 72 29. Though to make a link with the Huey, where did it make it's name? Vietnam.....Though that is not why I'm commenting here. I've been going through some of the previous maps looking for any more clues that may be relevant & I found this. The 2 vehicles that are in Kino Der Toten also feature in TranZit & the 'Combi Van' also has the same rego - C 72 29 Here is a Combie Van from TranZit Reused texture? Or something more?