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Thanks heaps for the comments guys! I posted this before the game was released so I'm pretty stoked at how many things relate to Tesla in Green Run. Theres even more than what i anticipated. I knew some type of free energy would be used in a post apocalyptic world. Tesla's Alternating Current motor generating the Wind Turbine & the Power Cell that 'HIM' comes from being a BIG Tesla Coil! Sorry I have neglected this thread. When I find the time I will rewrite or update this & fix a few things. Thanks again Guys. What influence will Tesla have on Die Rise?

I'll contradict myself here from what I said previously regarding in game facts determining timelines. What you said Brett about the WaW & BO1 campaign & zombies following each other is what I believe as well but the mentioning of HAARP was first discovered in Shi No Numa, so there is definately discrepincies between real life events & the zombies timeline. Most of the locations in which the Bus Driver mentions are all very modern, but I don't think they have any revelance to anything apart from the underlying theme of Secret Military Complexes, The Nuclear Age & Disasters. I was only just re-reading the BO1 campaign intel yesterday so I know what you mean about the Der Riese massacre & Dr Steiner. I'm sure I watched a video prior to the release of BO2 were one of the Devs said that the BO2 zombie story does not coincide with the campaign being set in 2025. I just can't remember what video it was? I'll try to find it. I like how this threads first 6 posts were 2 or 3 lines, the timeline is a lot more complicated than a brief statement. This thread is getting to far off topic, Die Rise might not be the best discussion forum for this.

I've just got this feeling that the mystery hunt won't be a tower, that just seems too repetitive. Maxis says "the other sites" I think we will get a computer back online or some type of technological device, something along those lines? And we haven't seen what damage a direct hit from the missiles look like yet. Nuketowns missile hasn't struck when we play there. The timeline of when we play Die Rise may be many years after the events if Moon. Who knows, I just want some good definate storyline to be unravelled.

Image below - Green Run & Nuketown are located above the lava on the left. Props to FreDelicia & GRILL You just blew my mind ! After seeing it the first thing that came to my mind was this This next image shows - Hanger 18 (Groom Lake/Area 51/Moon Map) Jackass Flats (Green Run - Farm TV Transmission) The Sedan Crater Props to Shooter I think that Nuketown is based on the Sedan Crater, though the Tactical Insertion Co-ordinates in Nuketown 2025 show that Nuketown is further Northwest than what is shown here. All 3 are located in the Nevada Test Site. Green Run Location - Hanford, Washington State, USA It's to early to tell where the other 2 Missiles from Moon struck.

Posted by Tac, currently on page 5 of the General Discussion http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=25526

I'm no expert by any means, I'm just trying to put the pieces together as logically as I can. It's a good question you raise CrazyTrain, it's something that is a bit shady but this is a description on Nuketown from the BO2 Webpage. It must of been written or approved by the Zombie Dev team, not just someone from Activision writing it? So at the end of the Black Ops 1 Nuketown multiplayer game, the nuke is dropped & kills all Soilders that were fighting there. The radiation scientists go in to examine the remains & are encountered by Soilder Zombies & the radiation scientists are turned, hence why there are both of these types in zombie form. Nuketown 2025 on the other hand, who knows if it's still the same timeline 60 years after the original? Or a different reality? Very shadey & possibly no relevance? Is this the first Multiplayer map that has been directly linked to Zombie mode like this in the story? Trying to keep this on topic & including Die Rise, the clear skies really intrigue me as to what time period Due Rise is set in? (even though we have only seen half a second of footage) Edit - sorry Rissole, I wrote this before I saw your post.

There's already a 4 page thread on the breakdown of the Nuketown Loading Screen. http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=25002 Sorry to sound rude, I understand that PS3 users may have only just got the Map pack, but we've been discussing this since the release.

Nuketown doesn't really have anything to do with the TV audio at the Farmhouse. The transmission is coming from Jackass Flats & the Co-ordinates ARE for Jackass Flats NOT Area 51. The only common thing about all 3 places is that they are all in close proximity within the Nevada Testing Area. Take a look at Shooter's Bren Tower at Jackass Flats Thread. It's a pretty good breakdown. http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=136&t=25415&p=248933&hilit=Bren+tower+Jackass+flats#p248933

Well Green Run, Nuketown & Die Rise do have thier own Discussions. Green Run & Nuketown are under the 'Map Discussion' section & for some reason? Die Rise is on the front page easy to see? The maps not even out? Yet Green Run & Nuketown are kind of hidden. This TranZit discussion should be merged with the Green Run one. This really needs to be fixed soon. At the very least the Green run & Nuketown discussion should be brought to the front page like Die Rise

Your correct Bob. Not long after Jimmy's tweet, Rez tweeted this -

You can't deny the quotes or the events Of course we play the maps in the correct order, but we Time travel, not just Teleport. We go from Five/Ascension 1960's to 2011 COTD, where they time travelled....The Events of Moon hadn't sent the missiles to earth in Call of the Deads 'Reality' You can't deny the quotes.

Good research Kiilah, It's amazing you found all of that in a few sentences. This has been heavily talked about & there are a few different threads from BO1 relating to this. Here's some light reading courtesy of AlphaSnake (this is from the old asylum, so some of the formatting is off) http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?7669-The-Golden-Dawn-Nazis-Hollow-Earth-amp-Shangri-La This is not to sound rude, but did you play Black Ops 1? All if this stuff was brought up then, I could probably find some more threads if your interested on what has already been posted here?

This thread was originally in the Asylum. That's why Ninezero reported it, & it has since been moved here. The poster in which the OP is talking about is the 'Atomic Frontier Days' poster at the bus depot, not the Concept Art. - Off topic Tool should be Mandatory......

Hahaha - Mr Perfect! I'm just trying to encourage others to put a little bit more effort in. Espeacially in the Ayslum...... I don't want CoDz to be like the Activision forums!!! EDIT - I just booked a 12 day trip to china in March!!! Completly unrelated. It's funny how life works. I've just given myself a history lesson & now I'm going there! Crazy.......

Electric Jesus Pack-a-Punched = The Voice of Justice....

Then what would you call the 10 maps that predate TranZit? Zombies started out as a 'Border Defense' game originally & the gamplay mechanics were getting mastered by the 2nd map Verrückt. People figured out how the zombies responded, training & looping techniques were figured out. Look at the master guides on this very site. Look at the size & dedication of this community. The game hasn't really change a lot, but it's not quite stale yet. People must still be having fun if we are talkng about it right now. TranZit mode to me is a large 'free roam' (if you will) style map, in which you can play 3 smaller 'non free roam' maps. 3arc should incorporate this into every DLC. It gives fans 4 or so maps in each DLC. That in itself keeps the game fresh. It may keep fans happy, its not just 1 map that gets stale quickly. Survival Bus Depot, Farm & town each have different difficulties, Bus Depot = No perks, no Pap. Farm = Perks but no Pap. Town gives us everything in which you can get setup very quickly, have a fun & possibly high round game - fast. That's fresh. That's a TranZit style map to me. 4 maps within 1. But, looking at the achievement for Green Run & TranZit, I tend to think that Die Rise may not be a TranZit Mode. "In TranZit, obey the voices", "In TranZit, complete all additions to the Bus in one game" That right there tells me that Die Rise may not be a "TranZit Mode"?? In Black Ops 1 you were able to get some achievements in any map. The achievements for Die Rise will be updated in the next couple of days & that will tell us a lot. I'm not arguing with you here, more so disagreeing at your statement that "having another TranZit is stale & reused". We've had 10 maps that were pretty much the same, yet I love everyone of them.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics = Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик I really want to know what that 'IUI' symbol is on the crates & the Moon zombies clothes???

Just incase you hadnt seen this.

Yeah it's pretty sad that youtubers read CoDz & then make videos copying word for word but fail to mention where they got their information or ideas. That buildable video is exactly your original post. The same Youtuber even has a video of the Orient Tower which Flammerwerfer posted ages ago. Mrdalejkd copied my Bus Driver Location Quotes thread word for word. He even used the same pictures I used & not 1 mention that all of his information was from CoDz. Some of them I know are wrong. At least Spiderbite gave a shoutout in each of his videos & did a bit more research of his own. You should comment on his videos & link your thread saying that he copied your ideas.

I am thinking along the same lines as for now (until the trailer & the game come out anyway) In the short teaser trailer we saw, Die Rise's Air looks clear & the many Meteors or debris falling to me may hint that the missiles have just struck earth. There is also the possibility that IF Marlton does not appear in Die Rise, he is still in the Bunker at Nuketown. This explains & links all four maps with the New Crew. My timeline until the reveal/release - Moon - Nuketown Die Rise Green Run We will find out in 9 days.....

Yeah I do see I'm sign into Xbox live every now & then. I don't mind adding updates & news, though I hope he does at least update his OP. This was such a great thread in the lead up to the games release.

Top Notch Guide Infest. Top Notch! I don't play a lot of grief, now I might be the Hunter, instead of the Hunted! Great formatting mate.

Thanks for the comment guys. Muchly appreciated. But KillallZombies & MixMasterNut should really be thanked for this. I just want to keep making decent formatted threads that may inspire more people to do the same. They don't have to be über long, actually quite the opposite. People tend to skim over threads that are massive. Just make the look pretty & maybe breakup the text with a picture or 2. It makes it a lot easier to read & understand. Anyone that is new, just put a little bit of effort in if you are going to create a thread. Dont just write 2 lines & post a link to a youtube video. Explain it with text that is 3 or 4 paragraphs long, include pictures & a youtube link. It's really not that hard. This is the first forum I've been active on & if you've read my other threads, I'll let you know that 95% of my posts are done with an IPhone....... Save your drafts before you navigate to a different page or copy your draft before you refresh the screen, this will stop you losing all your hard work, better still write them on a word or notes document, then transfer it across. @ Bob - Thanks for your comment Bob, I'm glad your lurking over users posts. Members - your leaders are watching You! I've played heaps of games with you Way, or do you mean I'm now eligible to play a game were you won't Troll me by running your hoard across me, EMPing the box or Pap as I'm using it or tea bagging me instead of reviving me while I'm downed? Hahaha We must have a game again soon, Ive been on CoDz more than playing the game lately. @ Nemises - the map does look a bit like the Green Run Bus Route! :shock: On topic - Just incase everybody missed this picture in the OP - something looks familiar???? (Thanks for the pic Rissole)

@ Mr Infest. Thank you for elaborating. I always fail to include a conclusion or a summary. And thank you for including the sentence, "A more stable connection to the storyline other than what is the Easter Egg" Brilliant!! @ Mr Jay, Thank you for the kind comments, much appreciated. I hope you read my other threads in the 'Green Run' discussion. As for the relativity of this thread to the storyline? It may have nothing to do with it, I just thought people needed another history lesson. The Wii Version had heaps of Easter eggs which weren't included in the other versions, there were pictures on the mystery box which hinted at the BO DLC's such as a lighthouse - COTD, Shangri-la & Moon (I can't remember what the other pictures were) and this audio easter egg may only elude to a DLC map being located in China? I'm not the kind that is able to develope well thought out theories, I just like researching the 'real-life events' & how it can tie in to the storyline. Hopefully people learn something too, I know I have. @ Mr K.A.Z. Thankyou very much for bringing this to light & posting your original threads on CoDz. Your theories above are very much what I am thinking. Im sure there's no doubt that element 115 or meteors are in those crates on the NDU loading screen. The famine which killed so many (at the time) can also tie into the 're-animation' process where all of these backyard furnaces were made, Nantan meteorites were used (even though they wouldn't melt in real life) and could possibly be responsible for all of these outbreaks during the 1960's. If this has anything to do with the upcoming map, and the steel was '115 infused' I wonder if any of it would be in the buildings we see/playing in? We will hopefully find out shortly. Ive got a little bit more info to add, but I'll wait until we see the trailer & play the map before i include it. For the sake of COD Zombies & 3arc, this map better be packed full of backstory linking this trilogy together.

All Credit for this thread goes to 'Killallzombies' who created these 2 threads (below) in December 2011, along with the research from 'MixMasterNut' Killallzombies Wii Kino Easter Egg Transcript Thread - HERE Killallzombies Wii Kino Sound File Cracked Thread - HERE In the Wii version of Kino Der Toten, there is a Radio Easter Egg in which the Audio below is played. I urge you to watch the first video I linked, otherwise this thread may not make sense! ==================== We will start here - Black Ops Classic Maps Pack In the Black Ops Version of Nacht Der Untoten, the loading screen shows a warehouse in which the Flag symbols of Communist Countries are displayed on crates. They are - China U.S.S.R. Cuba Vietnam (Vietcong/NLF/Provisional Revolutionary Government of the Republic of South Vietnam) Nacht Der Untoten Loading Screen Kino Der Toten (Wii Version) In-game Audio Clip (3:00mins) Kino Der Toten (Wii Version) In-game Audio Transcript The video's below are not exactly the same as in the game, but Fast track to Part 3 (7min 30sec) the song from the in-game audio is played here & the start of Part 4 are nearly word for word. They are from a 6 part documentary & each part is 10 minutes long Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 - This is where our in-game audio comes from Watch from 7 minutes 30 seconds Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 China's Great Leap Forward http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/great_leap_forward.htm http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/greatleap.htm The Great Leap Forward of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign of the Communist Party of China (CPC), reflected in planning decisions from 1958 to 1961, which aimed to use China's vast population to rapidly transform the country from an agrarian economy into a modern communist society through the process of rapid industrialization and collectivization. Mao Zedong led the campaign based on the Theory of Productive Forces, and intensified it after being informed of the impending disaster from grain shortages. The Great Leap ended in catastrophe, resulting in tens of millions of excess deaths. Estimates of the death toll range from 18 million to 45 million, with estimates by demographic specialists ranging from 18 million to 32.5 million. Historian Frank Dikötter asserts that "coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward" and it "motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history." The years of the Great Leap Forward in fact saw economic regression, with 1958 through 1961 being the only years between 1953 and 1983 in which China's economy saw negative growth. In subsequent conferences in 1960 and 1962, the negative effects of the Great Leap Forward were studied by the CPC, and Mao was criticized in the party conferences. Moderate Party members like Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping rose to power, and Mao was marginalized within the party, leading him to initiate the Cultural Revolution in 1966. Chinese Posters http://chineseposters.net/posters/pc-1958-024.php The Great Leap Forward campaign began during the period of the Second Five Year Plan which was scheduled to run from 1958 to 1963, though the campaign itself was discontinued by 1961. Mao unveiled the Great Leap Forward at a meeting in January 1958 in Nanjing. The central idea behind the Great Leap was that rapid development of China's agricultural and industrial sectors should take place in parallel. The hope was to industrialize by making use of the massive supply of cheap labour and avoid having to import heavy machinery. The government also sought to avoid both social stratification and technical bottlenecks involved in the Soviet model of development, but sought political rather than technical solutions to do so. Distrusting technical experts, Mao and the party sought to replicate the strategies used in its 1930s regrouping in Yan'an following the Long March: "mass mobilization, social leveling, attacks on bureaucratism, [and] disdain for material obstacles." Mao advocated that a further round of collectivization modeled on the USSR's "Third Period" was necessary in the countryside where the existing collectives would be merged into huge People's Communes. Industrialization Mao saw grain and steel production as the key pillars of economic development. He forecast that within 15 years of the start of the Great Leap, China's steel production would surpass that of the UK. In the August 1958 Politburo meetings, it was decided that steel production would be set to double within the year, most of the increase coming through backyard steel furnaces. Major investments in larger state enterprises were made in 1958-60: 1,587, 1,361, and 1,815 medium- and large-scale state projects were started in 1958, 1959, and 1960 respectively, more in each year than in the first Five Year Plan. Radio Tower in the image below look familiar Propaganda Art http://www.crestock.com/blog/design/vibrant-chinese-propaganda-art--part-1-revolution-revolution-revolution-171.aspx Millions of Chinese became state workers as a consequence of this industrial investment: in 1958, 21 million were added to non-agricultural state payrolls, and total state employment reached a peak of 50.44 million in 1960, more than doubling the 1957 level; the urban population swelled by 31.24 million people. These new workers placed major stress on China's food-rationing system, which led to increased and unsustainable demands on rural food production. Backyard Furnaces With no personal knowledge of metallurgy, Mao encouraged the establishment of small backyard steel furnaces in every commune and in each urban neighborhood. Mao was shown an example of a backyard furnace in Hefei, Anhui in September 1958 by provincial first secretary Zeng Xisheng. The unit was claimed to be manufacturing high quality steel (though in fact the finished steel had probably been manufactured elsewhere). Backyard furnaces in China during the Great Leap Forward era. Huge efforts on the part of peasants and other workers were made to produce steel out of scrap metal. To fuel the furnaces the local environment was denuded of trees and wood taken from the doors and furniture of peasants' houses. Pots, pans, and other metal artifacts were requisitioned to supply the "scrap" for the furnaces so that the wildly optimistic production targets could be met. Many of the male agricultural workers were diverted from the harvest to help the iron production as were the workers at many factories, schools and even hospitals. Although the output consisted of low quality lumps of pig iron which was of negligible economic worth, Mao had a deep distrust of intellectuals and faith in the power of the mass mobilization of the peasants. Moreover, the experience of the intellectual classes following the Hundred Flowers Campaign silenced those aware of the folly of such a plan. According to his private doctor, Li Zhisui, Mao and his entourage visited traditional steel works in Manchuria in January 1959 where he found out that high quality steel could only be produced in large-scale factories using reliable fuel such as coal. However, he decided not to order a halt to the backyard steel furnaces so as not to dampen the revolutionary enthusiasm of the masses. The program was only quietly abandoned much later in that year. People's Communes In the beginning, commune members were able to eat for free at the commune canteens. This changed when food production slowed to a halt.An experimental commune was established at Chayashan in Henan in April 1958. Here for the first time private plots were entirely abolished and communal kitchens were introduced. At the Politburo meetings in August 1958, it was decided that these people's communes would become the new form of economic and political organization throughout rural China. By the end of the year approximately 25,000 communes had been set up, with an average of 5,000 households each. The communes were relatively self-sufficient co-operatives where wages and money were replaced by work points. In the beginning, commune members were able to eat for free at the commune canteens. This changed when food production slowed to a halt. Based on his fieldwork, Ralph A. Thaxton Jr. describes the people's communes as a form of "apartheid system" for Chinese farm households. The commune system was aimed at maximizing production for provisioning the cities and constructing offices, factories, schools, and social insurance systems for urban-dwelling workers, cadres and officials. Citizens in rural areas who criticized the system were labeled "dangerous." Escape was also difficult or impossible, and those who attempted were subjected to "party-orchestrated public struggle," which further jeopardized their survival. Besides agriculture, communes also incorporated some light industry and construction projects. Famine Despite the harmful agricultural innovations, the weather in 1958 was very favorable and the harvest promised to be good. Unfortunately, the amount of labour diverted to steel production and construction projects meant that much of the harvest was left to rot uncollected in some areas. This problem was exacerbated by a devastating locust swarm, which was caused when their natural predators were killed as part of the Great Sparrow Campaign. Although actual harvests were reduced, local officials, under tremendous pressure from central authorities to report record harvests in response to the innovations, competed with each other to announce increasingly exaggerated results. These were used as a basis for determining the amount of grain to be taken by the State to supply the towns and cities, and to export. This left barely enough for the peasants, and in some areas, starvation set in. During 1958–1960 China continued to be a substantial net exporter of grain, despite the widespread famine experienced in the countryside, as Mao sought to maintain face and convince the outside world of the success of his plans. Foreign aid was refused. When the Japanese foreign minister told his Chinese counterpart Chen Yi of an offer of 100,000 tonnes of wheat to be shipped out of public view, he was rebuffed. John F Kennedy was also aware that the Chinese were exporting food to Africa and Cuba during the famine and said "we've had no indication from the Chinese Communists that they would welcome any offer of food." In 1959 and 1960 the weather was less favorable, and the situation got considerably worse, with many of China's provinces experiencing severe famine. In July 1959, the Yellow River flooded in East China. According to the Disaster Center, it directly killed, either through starvation from crop failure or drowning, an estimated 2 million people. In 1960, at least some degree of drought and other bad weather affected 55 percent of cultivated land, while an estimated 60 percent of northern agricultural land received no rain at all. The agricultural policies of the Great Leap Forward and the associated famine would then continue until January 1961, where, at the Ninth Plenum of the Eighth Central Committee, the restoration of agricultural production through a reversal of the Great Leap policies was started. Grain exports were stopped, and imports from Canada and Australia helped to reduce the impact of the food shortages, at least in the coastal cities. During the Great Leap Forward, cases of cannibalism also occurred in the parts of China that were severely affected by famine. Famine Deaths The exact number of famine deaths is difficult to determine, and estimates range from 18 to at least 42 million people. Because of the uncertainties involved in estimating famine deaths caused by the Great Leap Forward or any famine, it is difficult to compare the severity of different famines. However if a mid estimate of 30 million deaths is accepted, the Great leap Forward was the deadliest famine in the history of China and in the history of the world. This was in part due to China’s large population; in the Great Irish Famine, approximately 1 million of a population of 8 million people died, or 12.5%. In the Great Chinese Famine approximately 30 million of a population of 600 million people died, or 5%. The Great Leap Forward reversed the downward trend in mortality that had occurred since 1950, though even during the Leap, mortality may not have reached pre-1949 levels. Famine deaths and the reduction in number of births caused the population of China to drop in 1960 and 1961. This was only the third time in 600 years that the population of China had decreased. After the Great Leap Forward, mortality rates decreased to below pre-Leap levels and the downward trend begun in 1950 continued. The severity of the famine varied from region to region. By correlating the increase in death rates of different provinces, Peng Xizhe found that Gansu, Sichuan, Guizhou, Hunan, Guangxi, and Anhui were the worst-hit regions, while Heilongjiang, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang, Tianjin, and Shanghai had the lowest increase in death rate during the Great Leap Forward (there was no data for Tibet). The policies of the Great Leap Forward and the failure of the government to respond quickly and effectively to famine conditions were mostly, if not completely, responsible for the famine. There is disagreement over how much, if at all, weather conditions contributed to the famine and how much, if at all, the famine was intentional or due to willful negligence. The PRC government’s official web portal places the responsibility for the “serious losses” to “country and people” of 1959–1961 (without mentioning famine) mainly on the Great Leap Forward and the anti-rightist struggle, and lists weather and cancelation of contracts by the Soviet Union as contributing factors. ==================== Red Flag Canal http://ourrebellion.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/book-we-the-people-documents-from-masses-31.pdf Red Flag Canal is the Canal that is mentioned in the Audio Close to the border of Hebei and Shanxi. The canal diverts water from the Zhang River (漳河) into a canal. The Zhang River flows from Shanxi and becomes the border between Hebei and Henan near to Handan. The dam is located near the corner of the three provinces. The canal winds around the side of a cliff, through 42 tunnels and along the side of the Taihang Mountains. The canal was initiated during the Great Leap Forward and was built in the 1960s and the main channel was completed in 1965. It was dug entirely by hand labour. The canal is 71 kilometers long, including the distribution branches, the irrigation system is claimed to have a total length of 1500 meters. It irrigates the fields of the Linzhou district. A diagram of the Red Flag Canal carved on the rockface near the Canal Visitor Centre. The Red Flag Canal was considered to be a famous achievement of the Chinese workers in the 1960s and was the subject of several movies. The Red Flag Canal was featured in propaganda both internal and external to China, as an exemplar of what diligent workers could achieve and local mass initiative. ==================== Nantan Meteorite Location: Lihu and Yaozhai towns, Nandan County, Guangxi, China. 25 degrees 6’ N, 107 degree 42’E. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantan_meteorite http://www.cuttingrocks.com/gallery_meteorites1.shtml Meteorite falls in China http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=&sfor=names&stype=contains&lrec=2000&country=China&srt=name Meteorite Society http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?sea=&sfor=names&ants=&falls=&valids=&stype=contains&lrec=2000&map=ge&browse=&country=China&srt=name&categ=All&mblist=All&rect=&phot=&snew=0&pnt=Normal%20table&code=16906 The Nantan fall occurring in China during 1516 AD is one of the rare witnessed iron meteorite falls. The official record of the Nantan fall relates that "During summertime in May of Jiajing 11th year, stars fell from the northwest, five to six fold long, waving like snakes and dragons. They were as bright as lightning and disappeared in seconds." The strewn field of the Nantan fall is approximately 8 kilometers wide by 28 kilometers in length, covering the towns of Lihu and Yaozhai in Nantan County, Guangxi, China. The meteorite was named after the city. Detailed mapping showed that the Nantan meteorites were distributed in an area of 28 Km long and 8 Km wide, overlying Permian limestone and surface soils. The occurrence of northwestern elongated zone concurs with the historical description of falling direction. The largest fragment of Nantan meteorite. Exhibit in the National Museum of Nature and Science, Tokyo, Japan. No one paid attention to the historical record about the fallen stars at Nandan until 1958, when China needed a lot of steel to push the country "Great Leap Forward". During this period, everyone was told to look for iron ore. Even cooking pots were melted in back yards to produce steel. Some farmers at Nandan, mainly Yao minority, were lucky enough to keep their **** please report this topic, post **** tools by finding some heavy Fe-rich rocks. Unfortunately, the "iron ore" would not melt at the backyard steel factory., which puzzled the farmers. They reported to the government and scientists. Researchers arrived and proved the "iron ore" to be iron meteorites. Meteorites from the Nantan fall exhibit a wide range of shapes varying through elliptical, flat-iron, semi-sheered, spherical, triangle, tongue and irregular shapes. Fresh meteorite surfaces are black, and commonly characterized with angular or round melted pits. The ones deeply weathered are brown and lack of melted surface.The size of Nantan meteorites collected ranges from 10 grams to 2,000 kg. Total weight is estimated to be 9,500 kg. The Widmanstattern cross-banded woven pattern that is typical in iron meteorites is obvious in polished Nantan pieces. Courtesy of MixMasterNut http://www.thrushobservatory.org/meteorites/nantan/nantan.htm Structural Class: More than ten minerals have been found in the Nantan meteorites, dominantly kamacite and taenite. Secondary are plessite, scheribersite, triolite, graphite, spherlite, sideroferrite, dyslytite, cliftonite, and lawrencite. Coarse octohedrite. Kamacite lamina are 1 - 3.1 mm wide. Widmanstattern pattern is obvious in polished pieces. Chemical Class: The average Chemical composition in the Nantan meteorites are: Fe 92.35%, Ni 6.96%, belonging to IIICD type of iron meteorite based on the taxonomy of Wasson and others (1980). The following trace elements have been detected: C, Cu, Co, S, P, Cr, Ga, Ge, As, Sb, W, Re, Ir, Au, Ru, Pd, Os, Pr, and Mn. Ag, Cd, and Pb isotopes have been analyzed by Prof. Wang Daode and others (1993). Large pieces of the Nantan meteorites, with good encapsulation, are ideal samples to analyze "space atmosphere". Prof. Wang Daode and others (1993) have analyzed Ar, He, and Ne isotopic contents. http://www.crystalsrocksandgems.com/Healing_Crystals/Meteorite.html Meteorite: Usually solid, dull, mottled, brownish to black. Non-iron varieties amplify thoughts/telepathic sending/receiving, greater awareness, some connection to extraterrestrial life. Odd/unusual energy, best used by those drawn to them. Some believe that since Meteorites are in tune with the energies of the cosmos and therefore more capable of raising our energies to a universal level. Others believe that that since they have no connection to Earth, Meteorites can in no way influence our lives. Perhaps a reasonable way to approach this stone is to try and tune into its energy on an intuitive level and decide whether or not it would play a good role in your life. Intuitive sources say Nantan Meteorites can open and activate the 3rd eye chakra, facilitating inter-dimensional communication and travel. They are said to increase the flow of chi throughout the body and meridian system. Wearing them can bring increased energy flow to the auric field, and can provide a shield of protection from negative energies. ==================== Did Group 935 collect Nantan Meteors, warehouse them & ship them to communist countries? Was Element 115 in the Steel in which China supplied to the Soviets? Was this just hinting at a future DLC Map - China? Or something more? Feel Free to comment