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definitely Who's who, one of the best perks they could've ever implemented and I love it, only problem I have with it atm is that its kind of buggy, when you go down the zombies dont take off after other players they glitch out and run at a wall or something stupid and it screws over your doppelganger by spawning them in the middle of the same crowd of zombies in the same corner that you died in -_-

I take it as this The nuke is basically wiping the slate clean and without it you'll eventually be driven mad from constantly living in fear and surviving the hordes of undead that is if you don't become a zombie yourself.

I friggin love this map, I loved the Green Run and Nuketown maps too and I feel like they've done an awesome job so far in BO2. Although I don't think there has ever been an EE you could do solo plus that would make them kind of easy lol, part of what makes them challenging is having to coordinate everyone else while making sure they all stay alive. As for reward I'm happy there actually is one for this map but I'm a little disappointed that you can achieve the same reward by killing Nova's without bullets. Its looks to me though that someone else called it with the reward progression and how each map later in the season will have a greater reward, also it seems the nav card has been revealed to be its own separate EE for certain now.

interesting theory, that would almost explain "mend the rift" on another note after you revive Russman I find the quote "the energy of the broken souls has been released" (or something along those lines) very interesting and it raised a few neck hairs.

Lol imagine some of the epic belly flops that could be pulled off though XD I would probably die so many times just flopping everywhere seeing where I could and couldn't make it to haha XD down the AN elevator shaft would be my first flop

awesome little tip here, thanks MDI :mrgreen:

be careful with that, my friend that used to host 8 man Tranzit lobbys got booted in the middle of a match a couple weeks ago and couldnt get zombies to connect for the rest of the day no matter what he did only multiplayer and he thinks that's why. It is fun though and a fun way to solve that problem of having more than 3 friends wanting to play at once. If I did an 8 man Die Rise I would coordinate a trample stream ride that would start at that mattress ledge, flinging you to the second highest level of the rooftop building and seeing how far we could go from there fling after fling XD

It has it's downsides too, if you have to deal with a nova 6 round you almost always die and if you do get over run it is certain death. Holding off there is already taking major chances. nova rounds are extremely easy there if you have 4 people, and if you have the Sliquifier as well then you'll be double set because the Novas are useless once they step in the goo, I'm surprised no one is using the Trample Steams to hold off area like this although the major trolling with them has already started XD

Richtofin is in the Aether and that's not a place where you physically exist, his soul is what is in the Aether. Its a place where you exist as consciousness

Ok so I was playing as Samuel earlier doing the first few steps of the EE and I noticed that every time I was close to one of the gold symbols in the elevators and the ones on the floors you could hear those weird moaning sounds louder the closer you got, could that be what the sounds are? step indicators for Richtofin?

dude I would love to use one but I want to wait until after I finish the EE on this map so I don't have to get a new one in a few days :P

I don't think he 's Tank but I like how Misty kind of talks like him, they are all similar to the other character, Samuel and Richtofin, Russman and Nikolai, Marlton and Takeo (sort of)

do all perks stay like in Moon? because this is achievable without EE completion :P

Dude, awesome job guys , can't wait to get working on finishing this :mrgreen:

HAHA OK zombie master, I'll bet its WAY to easy for you I'm guessing you meant zombies master, and too easy for you. I won't bother quoting the rest as it contained a single period in an entire paragraph of text. Either way, it is too easy. PHD plus M&S is the ultimate I don't need to think choice. Up to round 35, any problem and just shoot the shit out of your feet. PHD turns using M&S from an art form into a none thinking option. If you need it as you can't manage to drop down the various locations, then again, you need to think more about the game. When someone went to round 81 solo on the first day, a map is too easy. When a 4 man team went to 34 in the first couple of hours, it is too easy. It's an awful lot of fun this map, but with perma jugg for 15 rounds, perma quick revive, seriously, what else do you need? I never said that I was a zombies master, you did. You happen to be right, but I still never said it. You do make some very good points although you don't need to be such a grammar nazi when its perfectly understandable, I don't use a bunch of acronyms or use l33t sp3ak or make a bunch of spelling mistakes. To neglect to read a paragraph for the sole reason of it not containing commas or periods is rather ignorant haha. The person that went 86 on solo in the first day could've easily found a glitch to camp in, the people who made it to 34 on their first time with a crew of four containing at least two record holders (RelaxingEnd is rather well known) in their team from previous maps so that's not all that surprising especially with how exploitable the trample steam is. EDIT: you never said you didn't read it only that you didn't quote it, my apologies I read that wrong.

also the very first quote from maxis states that there is no more interference blocking his signals which was a big thing in Green Run

that's true, and something tells me that if they did want to make it available in this map at some later point and time than they could fairly easily since the room and the textures are already down. but someone already made a really good point, you get the achievement without PHD and it clearly says to use "all the perk machines" so as of yet I don't think it'll be accessible even upon EE completion

good find that's a pretty interesting thing to note.

if you were watching NGT's video where they are unloading on the orbs you don't have to do it like that, its very doable with one just don't shoot so fast, steadily just keep wetting them, maybe even try hitting 1, then the other and going back and forth to see if that seems to work better, but there's no way you have to shoot 40+ Sliquifier shots at these orbs

I went up to 22 earlier and still had it so there's that.

HAHA OK zombie master, I'll bet its WAY to easy for you on a side note I die more often times than not by being cornered in a narrow spot rather than by fall damage, the only time I go down from falling is when I fall down a shaft or off the building and die so if they could keep that in so you die and make the machine a bit of a pain to get to (like say resetting the elevator every time you want to go get it) or having it as a reward for EE completion because you still would have to be good to rock it properly in this level

didn't happen for me, even today I was playing without persistent Jug and was going down with two hits

maybe let your body bleed out with who's who reincarnating as your doppelganger in a certain area ?

My interpretation of this part of the song is more obvious than it appears. But until it crashes - Nuclear Warhead and the atom smashes - Nuclear Explosion All our minds will just fade away - We'll die and become one of them. It will end in flashes - The Flashes of a Nuclear Bomb and we'll choke on Ashes - The Nuclear Fallout And we'll fall - Human Extinction to Explosion or Radiation Basically, The end of the song is just referring to the end of the story. Possibly foreshadowing the end of "Zombies". Face it there is no happy ending to an Apocalypse. All you can do is survive, a planet full of crazed, undead creatures has no chance of reconstruction. So, the best bet is to give up. It's a chessboard. You're just a King against another King. Except he has a board full of pawns. Instead of making the wrong move and being taken. You just "Fall Down" Checkmate. By the way, very detailed and thought out analysis. Props to you Sir. This actually makes a lot of sense, you reach a stalemate in the game where there can really be no winner, instead of making the same moves over and over or calling it a draw you decide to smash the chessboard and destroy the game altogether. This analysis is really great by the way, The only thing that makes me think this could be from Richtofin's POV is the Phantom line because that's basically what maxis is, a Phantom speaking to you through electronics. But the rest of the song seems to point towards Maxis, there could be a chance that its from both of their POV's?

you can get it in Tranzit and have it carry over as well, you can get it by grabbing quick revive on a custom game going down and reviving yourself, its random I think which time you'll get it after reviving because I've had it a few times take 3 times being downed and reviving myself but the last time I did it I got it again after the first down and revive, I don't know what causes you to lose it though because I was playing with some kid today who said they've had it for 4 days straight now and I've had it and lost it twice today