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you've just changed how I look at zombies mindfucked wow the thought that was put into this is amazing

whoa dude, I don't really know what to make of this but that's really interesting

yeah for sure just add me up I'm xAngelo0fdeathx but I won't be on till tmrw because its after midnight here and I'm about to go to bed lol

I feel like how the EE makes the game actually end that its almost like telling us to go back to one of the other maps now and either do or look for something and whatever we find would kind of be like our legit reward for beating that map. I know people have been wanting an ending for a long time but I can't help thinking the game over screen isn't the true reward, at least in Tranzit there was a powerup drop :P

to be fair this map has more secrets than Tranzit and Die Rise combined and it hasn't even been out a week yet :P

if there are parts for a nav table or an item that we can obtain to carry over its probably on the bridge.

try hitting stuff with the spork too I always thought that shed on the roof looked suspicious and in there is supposedly where he died according to the EE recordings

I think its an awesome breakdown, the only question now is whether Mending the Rift is keeping the cycle on track or breaking it.

I'd be down for another song :P

Richtofin doesn't necessarily use less power, 115 is an extremely powerful energy source and if you remember right in ToB you accidentally overload the tower by killing to much underneath it and that's why you have to EMP it, not because he wants less but simply because we've used too much energy. The Avogadro as far as we know so far is composed of electricity and just has more concentrated power than the turbines, but how do we know how his energy compares to that of 115? Well in Die Rise Richtofin again uses 115/ blood sacrifice to power what he needs and this time Maxis relies on the Energy of the Lost Souls. So is Maxis using life energy? whether it is or not 115 seems to be equally as powerful whereas in ToB regular electricity was less potent than the 115.

try zooming into it with a sniper, maybe there's another jump scare lol

yeah really, it is really OP but at the same time you aren't going to be using only the spork after wave 20, it'll always help you in a jam but if you try and use it exclusively and do whole round sporking people you'll probably get surrounded.

well its kind of funny because in my earlier post I said I thought I've heard Tank on several occasions and I still do, it happens when I go through that hallway that the portal to the roof is in. So right close to that spot where he's hearing the radio in that vid

I haven't played this map on Easy and completely forgot about that, that same trick helped us with the lions in Die Rise too definitly yeah look for any changes. can you even get the spork in easy?

actually a really good point, if we didn't have the steps and videos so readily available I think it would've taken people a lot more time, that being said didn't the dude that had it two days early complete it pretty quickly?

really? I've used all four of my lethals and had the points from each, maybe you gather your whole team there with four lethals and everyone chucks all of them in together and something will happen? im wondering if it might be something like a gate. like what if you can somehow get in it with purgatory and it brings you to a lower more hellish like level. just an idea. im trying out as many things as i can on it. i have noticed that the prison is pretty high up (when on gondola you can see random buildings and such) not to mention that sketchy pool by the 3 numbers you zap. i have a feeling we are missing something huge on this map. have you tried to plainswalk (what i call purgatory) on to high part of the map. and there are many places that seem to go towards this hole. im will post my findings on trying to fall into it and all the different things i use on it. im just starting a new solo match lol. (sorry if thats slightly jumbled, lack of sleep due to trying to figure out more of this map then just the ee and spork and such) that's a good idea! try shocking it if you can't jump down there.

Another interesting bit to note are the different ways Maxis and Richtofin ask you to utilize power to complete their objectives. In ToB doing maxis you use the Avogadro to power the tower using what could be Life energy if they are in fact a person in purgatory rather than electrical energy. In Die Rise for Maxis you do something a bit different but again it has to do with Life energy, this time through reincarnation. Richtofin tends to stick with 115 and the energy from the undead for both of them. The orbs have a mysterious energy about them that Maxis needs and I'm assuming is what stores the energy obtained from the "lost souls" and that's why you launch them at the tower so you can transfer it.

really? I've used all four of my lethals and had the points from each, maybe you gather your whole team there with four lethals and everyone chucks all of them in together and something will happen?

Ok so pretty much since seeing the trailer when we first got our glimpse of what purgatory looked like and that we had electrical powers people have been wondering if there could be a connection between the two and I think there might be. You have the same powers and extremely similar appearance but I think there's a little more to it. I think the Avogadro is someone that's been trapped in purgatory and been experimented on to amplify its power and possibly a lot more. They may no longer even have a body anymore depending on how long they've been trapped in that capsule before we released them. Now if I may get wild here and throw something even more crazy out there: what if its Al? At the end of the EE you are given the choice to continue the cycle by killing Al and basically ending off with the same outcome that has these four in their predicament to begin with or you can Break the Cycle by killing everyone else with Al which I think is actually what is supposed to happen so the endless loop can finally end. Assuming that by breaking the cycle Al can finally be free to actually escape where would he go from there? he is on an abandoned/ unfinished bridge alone with the only means of escape being Purgatory. Its a pretty far-fetched string of theories but this whole topic is itching at me, I feel like there's a big connection tie-in we haven't discovered yet and another reason I think this is because there is a painting with the Tower of Babel on it, its like the game is telling us to look for the connection.

can the war machine be pulled from the box in this? because I'm thinking you could have a gold mine lol but in all seriousness I wanna try shooting it with the ray gun and Mustand and Sally's and stuff too, VW too while I'm at it :P

Thanks, I'll have to check that out, he either had a stray shot fly into the cell across the way or it was that desk in front of him that triggered it I think

The only problem with there being an obtainable would be getting it to carry over to the other characters unless they keep these guys for the next DLC which is highly doubtful seeing as how the end of the EE plays out lol.

now you can add hidden golden spork to add to that list lol, so many little secrets :P

The only thing that's weird are the explosion sounds but what he says is this, "this must mean something... but what" and as the other posters have said its to with with the EE and it triggered because you are near Buddah, he says it in other places at other points as well.

I agree, there is so much to be found within this map, just look at the Golden Spork, such an epic little side quest that has nothing to do with the main EE. They even put a jump scare on this frigging map lmao there's no telling what they've hidden. I wanna try killing everyone with Al using only the Golden Spork at the end lol. Also people nade and golden spork everything you can around the map to see if you can trigger anything. Not sure if there would be anymore codes you can enter in that could do anything seeing as you already use it for the plane art, prisoner's codes, the second song, and as an added bonus you can put 115 in for nothing really all that significant besides a quote that says something like "not this time" or "maybe next time", although I've never tried entering it after doing 935, only before. I've heard talk of someone accidentally activating a radio as well by shooting their gun. It would't surprise me at all if more was hidden in jail cells or outside barricades or the playable areas as we've already found skulls but throwing tomahawks.