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Please, link to me where it says that I'm sure they meant that it's an iconic map taking in 1960 version of nuketown, not to confuse with new nuketown. As for weapons, really? No imagination? Any of you? This confirms my point, it takes place in modern times, We still see fals, ak74us, m16s and m14 to extent, makes perfect sense for a place untouched since the 60s, as for tranzit, it's all civilian guns left over, ever play left 4 dead? Lots of similiar gear just laying around, I can easily see civilians defending themselfs with double barrels, m14s , m16s ect, mp5 galil and fal are for spec ops/ army soldiers/standard gear of CDC or whatnot, while still using other more modern/experimental prototype weapons. I'm pretty sure they took out emps from nuketown because they wanted it to be a signature weapon of green run, or more likely balancing issues. And I don't get the comment about experiment weapons, are you saying there were prototypes of five seven in the 60s? Now that is wacky, whatever you are having I want some of that! But really, please dispel the thought that nuketown take place anytime after or before 2010s, they probobly meant classic bo nuketown, not the new one, but people here take things WAY too literally. And as for emp grenade, was probobly left out for balancing purposes, as well as making it a green run exlusive like qed for moon Another thing I would like to point out, the lava around nuketown. I thought it emerged after earth was nuked to hell by moon missles? And you see a nuke exploding in the background. My take on it is, it's not the nuke that explodes after a multiplayer match, with nuketown(canonicly) introducing us to modern weapons and really the world as we know it struck by a zombie apocalypse, maybe the nuke we see is one of many, all over the world, that cracked the earth, earth missles finished the job and now we have fucking lava all over the place. It not too hard to imagine governments panicking after a full out endless zombie apocalypse, and so pressing the panic button out of desperation, with CDC/FBI holding major spots from being overrun. That sounds a lot simpler, realistic, and something treyarch would do, instead of this backwards teleporting bullshit. Think about it, we have a cod game in the future, a new for the series, why would zombies stay in 60s? I will try to contact staff directly, if I have any succes I will post here.

We are talking about guys who have acces to thunder guns, gersh devices, wunderwaffes, means to raise the dead and much more, they are the most elite organizations on the planet at the time, I think it's pretty safe to say that they were way ahead of their time, and so them having first alpha builds of weapons we would use in the future ain't as high off as you think. You think we don't do the same today? I bet you first usable alpha prototypes of weapons of tommorow will soon be made, go and research OICW for instance, prototypes are made, but they are still tweaking it for a full military personel usage, I bet cia/FBI/black ops ect have those toys up and ready, so it wouldn't be farfetched to have oicw in the box for nuketown/green run(fun fact:xm 25 from mw3 is based off of oicw weapon design), so I bet they were doing same back then, especially for such high profile groups who needed top knotch equipment. The weapon design definetly makes sense, and canonically only four first maps remakes weapons don't fit, but they are bonus maps, I doubt that treyarch would pull something nonsensical like the weapons not making sense, if they are focusing on story more than ever. On top of it all, they made the emp grenades a big focus in the game and story, and we know that by 2011, emp grenades should be experimental, or brand new, fitting with the theme of getting super ultra prototype weapons from black ops, although on a smaller scale, makes sense too as you see modern day equivalent of black ops fighting zombies, they need all the edge they need. You can make a point for non cannon weapons, but with emps playing a large role, it pretty much disproves it. It's almost as if to dispel the rumors Such as that, and make clear that it takes place during modern(our) warfare era(doubt its the future)

The same weapons appear in bo and bo2 campaign, again, as I said its a mistake treyarch made, with that argument ak74us are everywhere in campaign, and there's even a brief appereance of kiparis, which would not be developed until 1992, so let's just go with what they tell us: they are super secret special alpha prototypes tested in field for first time before designs we know today are completed(word of god-said bu treyarch themselves). Same could be said for bo2 zombies to an extent. We got five sevens and qbz for instance, weapons like MTAR and KAP are super secret prototypes which were first around 2012/2011 before seeing final models in 2025 campaign. It does look like it at first, as weapons don't seem to make sense, but that was the issue with the whole BO, IMO they should have moved timeline into 70s, it would make more sense, but yeah saying that Weapons aren't cannon in zombies is like saying Bo campaign is inaccurate/noncannon, which it's certainly not. It sure as hell does not make a lot of sense, but let's swallow it in the name of gameplay, and believe the word of god

Storyline is perfectly easy to follow, as I pretty much summed it up, with none of you being able to make me stand corrected. Instead of taking bus driver quotes and taking conspiracies out of your ass, please use common sense, not explain it away with"storyline is screwed up, it doesn't matter!", as it seems my theory is the only one I've seen so far that makes cannon with what's going on(future weapons in wrong eras=noncannon, unless dlc 4 waw maps somehow replaced waw originals)

You know what I mean PINNAZ stop trying to make your theory look more credible that's pathetic. Zombies were only active at the time and placeO4 take place, minus pentagon, until 2011, that's when Sam started the zombie rampage. I like how you mention O4 not teleporting thru time and "staying in der riese for 20 years" show how credible you are. And again, I see no point or correlation of bringing up great Slava, as that took place in the 70s, not anywhere near nuketown, and even so that would mean nuketown still takes place in the future, disproving your own theory much? You can't just ignore the frigging weapons giving you a time period perspective, how monogloid is that? How do you even think up of such things? So if I put m16s and mtars in the box, and us marines from nacht were using them, would nacht still be cannon? Please, if you are going to disprove my theory, which unlike most here does not rely on misinterpretations and assumptions, but on evidence in and simple explanations inbetween, please give rock hard solid evidence

Whawas the point of bringing up Slava lake I'd you aren't contributing anything by it? It may have been similarly dressed gentlemen, so?

All weas are canon, I have no clue where you got that. If you bothered to read ny whole post and not skim and pick like you did, PINNAZ, you would have all your answers. I'm not buying the nuketown theory, if it did indeed take place in 60s(after Bo match), then that would mean that nuketown is not cannon. You can't just put weapons that completely do not belong from that time period, put them in, and say it's the 60s, thats ridiculous! Either nuketown is noncannon, like Bo remakes of waw maps, or it does indeed take place in modern times, and whoever wrote that made a goof, after all it wouldn't be the first time. For example, iw multiplayer team seems to think that mw3 takes lace in 2012, when it take place in 2016. In those cases you gotta go with common sense here, would developers rather take all logic and sense out zombies, or make a small editing goof?

I checked the link, you pretty much said it takes place in 60s because there were nuclear tests in that area at that time. Completely ignoring the modern weapons and hazmat suits design. I think I got more evidence, and everyone with common sense knows which theory is right. There are Barrets and five-sevens in nuketown, and hazmat suits don't look very 60s, look up what they looked like. Please use your brain

Ok, there has been some confusion here on the whole outline of recent zombie events, mainly from some taking thing WAY to literally, so I will clear up things here, please discuss things here before you make more crackhead theories the unofficial cannon for this site. And before I go, no there is no alternative universe in zombies, or at least the maps we play on take place in a same universe, here's why: Ok lets start with der riese, when O4 teleport to 1963. Some say that in doing so, they have created an alternative timeline, and its not a universe as we know it, ect. BULLSHIT. As far as I see, kino is not any diffrent from our universe, some say it's the weapons, they are forgetting the campaign also had those weapons, and it took place in the same time period, that's treyach's goof. Universe in kino is the same we see in ascencion, cotd, shangrila, moon, nuketown and tranzit, as all events from then on pile up and we have a coherent storyline, in the same universe we live in today, so let's clear up another thing: zombies, it was said in waw they were rampaging the world ever since they left der riese, why would we have the world as we know it, 2011, if its in the same universe with all the zombies rampaging? Well, why are they in the first place? They are all under sam's control, and all she wants is Richthofen dead, so when he's nowhere to be found, why continue the rampage? She ceases the attacks, and since zombies don't have minds of their own, my guess is they go back under the ground(they can do that) and wait. Come 1963, Sam find O4 in an abandoned theather, and she awakens her minions once more. Sometime in between US gov finds out about the zombies and the wunder weapons, and E115, and tries to master it, releasing their own outbreak in the pentagon. Note that this is not an alternative universe, ours. Outbreak is stopped, do zombies do not escape pentagon and everybody(pentagon 4) is fine, all information classified(going with the theme of the game). Comes ascencion, Sam resurrects the zombies there as O4 tries to free gersh. This all happens at the same time, so obviously five and ascencion are in the same universe, unless the fucking phones have some sort of multi-dimensional link in them. Comes cotd, we see O4 in the present, as we can clearly see known celebrities and modern filming gear, no doubt it's our universe. As one can see, it's not overrun with zombies either, otherwise Georgie would have much more important things to worry about than some movie, so what happened to the zombies inbetween 1963-today? Simple, same as with der riese, zombies, unable to locate O4, went to sleep, there is no reason to believe that Sam would let innocent people die for no reason, as she only wants to kill Richthofen. However, with cotd, something happens, as zombies DON'T go to sleep when O4 teleport again, why is that? Sam knows they can't go forward in time, so they simply teleported to someplace on earth. In a bloodthirsty attempt at revange, she sets all zombies loose to create a modern day zombie apocalypse, you see a glimpse of that in nuketown, earth's last minutes. Shangrila was not very eventful, except it's still not fully known how they made their way from Himalayas to groom lake with zombies all over the place. As I said, meanwhile at Nevada, USA, zombies are rampaging, as with the rest of the world, so it makes sense for groom lake to be abandoned. Some say this is where the story branches off, and it's back to 1968, when moon nuketown and tranzit take place, that is not the case. As I said, us knows about the findings of group 935, it's all very classified info experienced first hand at the pentagon by JFK and Nixon themselves, do it makes sense the area 51 has the teleporter technology, it looks so acient because they did not alter the design. That also brings out the biggest point with the 1960/alternative universe theory. Moon base looks very 1960s tech, nuketown is the same as it is in BO1, and tranzit has some very 60s looking areas, most notably the diner, but that is all easily explainable. Griphyn station was constructed around 1939 if i remember correctly. We know 935 was way ahead of its time, is it too much to ask if they had computers and computing machines when they had ray guns, thunder firing guns, teleporters and means to awake the dead? The station was constructed and fully operational by 1945, since left untouched. Again, all same universe, not alternative 1960s, modern day, on with nuketown. Yes, it says 1960s town, they are referring to the fact that it was made as a test town in the 60s, and as a playable map at 1963(Bo multi), and apperantly not touched since. You can see modern gear, modern hazmat suit design, that throws any other theory out the window: nuketown pretty much clears up that modern zombies take place in the present, our universe, how could anyone miss that? Since nuketown and tranzit take place in the same universe, I shouldn't even be talking about it, but I will anyways. 60s style of, well everything, yes there is that. All of you are missing the fact that 1) there is modern gear laying around, my point with nuketown, and 2), some remote areas today, and tranzit is definetly in a remote area, still have some places look like the 60s. Anyone ever been to a 60s diner? They exist. Today. Yeah, and town could be any other small town, just about anywhere, any time. Please do not mention the bowling alley, that doesn't proof squawk, maybe the owner wanted the place to feel old school? And as for the farm, yes it does look outdated, very much cold war, but you are also forgetting that farms are some of the most remote places, it makes sense that there is a 60s tv and whatever else. My grandparents live in the country, they still got a similar looking 60s tv there today, so that is not a credible theory. I could go on and on, but I trust most of you have enough common sense to see where I'm going with this. It looks like treyarch have wanted to go with 60s zombie style this time around instead of modern/futuristic feel, but you lack took it the wrong way, when with nuketown they pretty much confirmed its all modern day. Discuss here before spreading theories as of they were official, and if I'm not making any sense ask, I typed this in a hurry.

The story DOES take place in one timeline and It's NOT that hard to understand, but Samuel over there got a conspiracy going andothers are believing it. I will clear things up in a topic later, please use your common sense i should not even be making a new thread about that

I think you are thinking about this too much, it all takes place in one universe, weapons confirm it. On bo, they are all from campaign, which takes place in the same time period, so that's a major Overlook by treyarch more than anything. They made the story really easy to follow, it seems it went way over the heads of some

Common sense, got one?

Tranzit does not take place anytime before 2011 due to weapons, and not further like 2025 due to lack of technology. Reason for 60s look is it's a very out of way little isolated area, there are still places like that today believe it or not. Please start using your brains people, how is goddamn modern Qbz 95 going to appear in 70s or 60s? And No moon did not take place in the goddamn 60s either or else nuketown and tranzit would be taking place then, which as I stated is impossible, but the layout of noon is ancient cause it was untouched since 1945, and teleporter itself is also acient, hence the look. please stop posting such idiotic theories all over the place

Update to above, for last map it would make much more sense to have 2 groups of 4(tranzit crew on earth and original 4 on moon) to play at the same time on both maps, trying to complete the Easter egg at the same time, after which both moon and earth accessible to both parties. With 8 player zombie support, each working as 2 groups of 4, I could see this being Made into coop grief for the last map

Here is what the dlc will look like: Dlc map one is always a minor, but memorable part of campaign, one mission only(asylum for waw and ascencion group from the single player mission in bo) Something like a big destroyed city(la or something) after zombies, monsoon research facility or similar will be in map pack one. Dlc 2 for zombies is "now for something diffrent" map, while looking odd out of the bunch, very important to storyline(shi no numa took a break from shooting nazi zombies and cotd was like one big commercial between ascencion and shangrila, shi no numa introduced zombie story as we know it and cotd took us into the present), and each dealt with a major point thought campaign(whole us-jap side of waw and nazi involvement in the nova project from black ops), maybe it will be a middle east/south America map with a new cast and seperate story to complete the same Easter egg tranzit crew is doing, with the multiple branches really showing Dlc3 deals with another major theme , Vietnam, so I'm guessing dlc3 will be either new crew or tranzit crew in middle east/south America, whichever one was not chosen for map pack 2, and I'm guessing it will have the biggest, or most important Easter egg of them all. Now, final dlcs are also the biggest, most mind blowing of them all, and start a new chapter for zombies to keep us waiting, or maybe in this case the true finale, so was had der riese, a sci fi secret nazi base, which for a realistic(back when cod was realistic/historically accurate), was a big shock. Der riese was hinted at since shi no numa, and hyped as such. We see the same in Bo, but on much larger scale(hints as far back as kino with the rocket ship and destroy able moon on hardened edition der riese), and well let's face it, nobody expected our beloved ww2 veterans to shoot zombies ON THE FUCKING MOON. Now, my theory for last map pack is this: since 8 player zombies is supported, and not much is heard about original 4, I can assume that similar to the top first "leak", we will indeed help original 4 get off moon, with whatever the pylons/who you sided with impacting the rest, and 4 original chars being fully playable for 8 other people(4 playing other four spectating until Ee is complete?), or maybe in a twist, original four will be forced to play against tranzit crew in a new bizzare twist?(pylons mind control/turn humans against each other like mpd pyramid controlls zombies). I don't know, but I'm sure first 3 map packs will go like that since we saw that happen twice now, since even the first included map follows the format of other zombie games(first map completely unrelated, shows things to come, waw marines in Europe fighting zombies when they only fight imperial army in campaign, theather in Bo not mentioned anywhere else or linked to any other map like ascencion/shangri ect are. What do you guys think?

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Wel if you ask me: yes. It is a lot more fun to figure something out on your own than to do it with help? But you can expect some help like 8-12 months after a map has been released. Maybe then they will tell us that we've missed something. But nothing more. Like the fact that Shangri-La was in Mars? No

Something like tranzit that takes place in Nevada, and is actually 100% explorable. Think new Vegas game map with zombies

Maxis said that there would be others to control, so don't get too attached, as we might be seeing another 4 chars, with the current 4 meeting each other n a major 8 player story mode or easter egg grief. On topic, i don't think much of russman, or misty, but samuel is interesting to play cause it seems like we can connect to him, and it's always nice to play as a prepper. I have mixed feeling about marlton, mostly because he's a love it/hate it thing and i'm stuck inbetween. I like his personality, but that voice, oh god, and the steriotype quotes

Yes, that is true that we are in modern times. Also, it's spelled Casimir What do you mean that the Zombies awaken? They've been around for a long time, since the early 1940's, so I'm confused as to what you mean by that. Alrighty, first thing. We go back in time from Call of the Dead to Shangri-La, as shown by this quote: "Ah, much better, now I can see the problem. We must have gone to far into the future. Look, the teleporter's completely broken, the time circuits are damaged." - Edward Richtofen in Call of the Dead Now, getting from Shangri-La to No Man's Land was indeed via teleportation, per this quote: "A time traveling temple, of course!" - Edward Richtofen in Shangri-La If you look at the first quote I cited, Richtofen mentions the time circuits (time) and teleporter (space) together, because the time circuits are in the teleporter. So basically, time traveling allows you the opportunity to teleport, and vise-versa. Physics shows that time and space is one fabric, so to speak, and Zombies follows that. Here's one more quote where he references time and space together, as one: "Now to use this to blast a hole in space-time and... what was I saying?" - Edward Richtofen in Moon As for Matuzz, that is very compelling evidence I'll have to sit on it, but it seems plausible to me. 1) yes, zombies existed since 1940s, but in 1945 and 1962/3 they stopped attacking, and went back in the ground(should be obvious, cotd or live as we know it would have NEVER happened if we were attacked by nazi zombies in 1945 or the 60s) 2) heh I wasnt aware of the quote from shangrila, please do provide a link, but still as I said tranzit/moon can't take place far into the future as tranzit does not seem modern enough(look at bo2 tech in single player) 3) as for cotd, yes time teleporter is broken, but they still somehow manage to get to shangrila instantly, you can even hear teleporter sound so the mpd is definetly functional.

Ok I've seen some confusion with the time of green run, some saying its still the 60s and others saying its 2020 or 2025 or whatnot, its all wrong, let me explain. As we all know, in der riese the group gets teleported to 1962 or whatever that was. It only lasts for 2 maps: kino and ascencion, since in ascencion the kassimir device works with gersh device to send our heroes to the modern age, 2012. That's right, 2012 is when green run takes place, here is why. So on cotd, we see modern day celebrities, so cotd undoubtly takes place in our time, and as of cotd, the zombies awaken and start attacking worldwide, probobly Samantha searching for the 4 zombie slayers without knowing it send them to shangrila. So right after cotd, the chars are fighting in shangrila, all while the zombie apocalypse takes over the world, this is why we see shelters in green run, they were made for protection against the zombies, but moving on, after the chars get the orb, they have to manually get from Himalayas to area 51, by boat or plane(no teleportation there), so it takes them maybe 1-2 weeks or so after cotd, while the world burns. Nuketown and moon happen at the same time, and you can see marlton hiding in the bomb shelter, the grand scheme unrevailing and nukes hitting the earth, all while you see the last minute chaos of the modern day world against zombies in nuketown. So after that, green run takes place a few weeks or a month after the apocalypse, as marlton had to get from nuketown to tranzit somehow(not the bus, it arrives at beginning of tranzit). Now you could say that tranzit could take place anytime after moon, even 2025, that's wrong. In survival and grief mode you can see CIA and CDC members who lost contact with the hq, and are fighting off zombies alone, doubt there would be ANY of either left by 2025. Also, the place simply does not look futuristic enough to be, play campaign to see what I'm talking about, today in 2012 seeing old trucks and 60s tv sets in old isolated communities is a stretch, but plausible, I doubt with the advancements of 2025 we would be seeing that, or CIA or CDC using 1911 or m14s for that matter. That was a mouthful, but I'm glad i cleared this up

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ehh no, probobly just a leftover code from an earlier prototype, where you had to pay to ride the bus, choose your stops ect. They focused on the current build of the bus so it would not get in the way of action

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