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DisassembledEmbryo

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  1. See that's a very interesting theory, but it's absolutely necessary to find a way to activate Maxis' introductory line of dialog before doing anything else. The orbs are very strange, and I don't understand them at all, but at the moment they aren't necessarily important because people have only ever seen them after already completing an easter egg. If anything, you should try stocking up points in the bank and then playing without activating any of Maxis' lines. I agree it's possible that by "wait" Jimmy meant over a period of days, but it's also entirely possible that it's just a few rounds with money in the bank/in point count. Please read the original post, this isn't about a continuation, it's about starting all over and doing things correctly.
  2. This thread is for discussing the continuation IN TRANZIT. Keep speculation about future maps to other threads, please, talking about it being continued in future DLCs only clogs this one up. In the original post there's tons of evidence to justify looking around in Tranzit. Anyways, UPDATE here, Jimmy Zielinski posted the following as a hint: "it may be points, or what ever you call them. Wait appropriate amount of time, then continue to work." It's very possible we need to collect a certain amount of points without touching the power/activating any of Maxis' quotes other than the Turbine, and he will say his introductory line, whereafter we can work towards completing the whole thing. It seems like the devs are getting kind of anxious here, possibly because Die Rise is coming out soon. I've got some exams to study for and I'm not all that great at zombies, so it would benefit the entire community if anybody who's good enough/has free time could try out hitting as high a point count as possible without activating any of Maxis' lines beforehand, possibly even without building the turbine (however I don't believe that's a requirement.) EDIT: Also, the TV doesn't do anything and I didn't hear anything from Richtofen that I hadn't in the past (having done his side up to where you need 4 people to EMP the lamps.)
  3. Minor Update: Surviving to round 15 without touching the power doesn't activate Maxis' intro line and based on that I don't think it can be activated by surviving rounds. It's possible that it's actually activated by interacting with a radio of some sort since Maxis talks to you through a radio and there's no explanation as to how he does that. I'm going to try out hitting the TV a ton of times before doing anything else, I heard that Maxis' message starts looping after playing through all the other messages, so maybe that's a place of interest. I'll try checking this out as well.
  4. Nobody has ever heard this line in-game. The point is that the easter egg does not continue after the steps that have been done, because those steps are out of order. It is a common misconception that the Maxis side has reached completion because the achievement can be unlocked, and I think that threads like this in the Tranzit board do more damage to morale than anything else.
  5. Personally I think the starting room isn't part of it at all, but I guess it's worth testing anyways. In his recent interview, Rez mentioned that the turbine's pieces intentionally don't randomize their locations so it's easy for newbies to get a feel for buildables. I think the entire room is just a well designed tutorial, the lava showing up motivates you to find a way out, the line from Maxis, while not actually integral to the plot, lets the player know they're building the turbine correctly and it also introduces them to the "mysterious voice" behind Tranzit's plot. I think that this easter egg was honestly meant to be found out by your average joe who bought Black Ops II, not necessarily the sort of people who figured out the previous ones, since Tranzit is supposed to be essentially a "story mode" as opposed to the regular survival maps.
  6. Building the nav card table during that game might not be required, but it IS certainly what triggers, at the very least, Richtofen's line about the nav card table. It's possible Maxis' quote would just be triggered during his story since it's more important in his than Richtofen's. As far as I know nobody has built the nav card table during Maxis' side, so I'm not sure if it triggers his nav card line, but it's also possible that if you reach that step you could just insert the card without hearing the line. Also, I'm sure this has probably been disproven, but perhaps if you let your rank drop all the way to one bone it would reset your card? Just speculation. I agree that an emp would probably disable a power source, so perhaps you're correct about the box at the church. For turning the power off, I think it's most likely that Maxis expects you to turn the power off with an emp, which by the way I believe works if you just throw it into the power room, not necessarily at any wires. It's possible you'd have to do this to impose a sort of time limit when dealing with the easter egg. The important thing right now is to get testing, and our first step is to get Maxis' introductory line to play.
  7. Hello CodZ forum members, I've never posted here before and probably won't post after this thread, but I'm super in to zombies stuff and I'd like to present to you guys what is pretty much a definite way for the community to finally uncover the ending to the Tranzit easter egg. If you think it's over/ going to be continued in Die Rise then just ignore this thread because it is dedicated to logically finding the end of the story in Green Run/Tranzit/whatever and a lot of this stuff is pretty much undeniable. This thread isn't for debating if this is just a wacky theory, it's for discussing it and testing combinations and orders for task completions. A bit of a preface, a lot of this stuff might sound like I could've tested it myself but a friend and I have been trying for weeks to just get the achievement, let alone complete the actual story, and we can't. I know a lot of people here have spent time debunking stupider theories, so hopefully people capable of testing this stuff will give it a shot. This isn't some trick or "troll" to get people to waste their time because that's stupid. *take note I listened to ripped audio to figure some stuff out, so if you don't agree with that then stop reading* OKAY, so first off, take note that Richtofen's side is essentially an "easy way" to get the achievement. I don't know why they made it possible to get the achievement by doing some of Maxis' steps, but they did and I think it probably threw the community off somewhat. The ending with the power-up coming down might as well be a joke, and I think it might be there just to make people realize that there has to be more because the ending is so unsatisfactory. So Richtofen gives you clear, blatant directions. You can follow them directly, and there's even a line in the game files where he lists them off because you did something wrong. At the end of Richtofen's side, he gives you his ending line. There is no continuation to Richtofen's side as far as I can tell. There is of course a line where he tells you about the navcard, but there doesn't seem to be any lines that he would typically say AFTER doing that. It's best to just assume Richtofen's side is a closed case. If somebody is playing as Samuel, they will have no trouble figuring it out. So that makes Maxis the more complicated, and more "complete" side of the easter egg. Now at the moment, there is NO ending to the Maxis egg when you get the achievement. The achievement-getting route was not found as intended but rather through guessing. Treyarch probably knew this would happen, so they made the ending impossible to reach unless you did everything in the CORRECT ORDER. This is essentially a fact, and if you disagree with it then ignore this thread because this thread hinges entirely on that idea. So now, since the dialog lines have been posted online, I figured the best thing to do would be to just take a look at the lines and put them in a logical order. I did that, but there's also a few gameplay related things that you need to take into account. So the first line, which can be heard at the beginning of this video posted in another thread (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... OnxLel7YZ0)to my knowledge hasn't ever been heard in game. If it has then that is fantastic and will aid in figuring out the egg. This is the first line, where Maxis introduces himself. This line must be activated first. Take note that the line about constructing the turbine is not part of the easter egg, as you can hear it in easy mode too. So I've only heard the starting quote in that video, today (wasn't included in any of the ripped-audio videos I've watched.) So I haven't really thought about how it would be activated. It COULD be activated by playing to a high-ish round without the power on, and the following will tell you why. Essentially, this is how I figure the easter egg should be completed, based on the ripped lines and some gameplay stuff too. Take note the purpose of this thread is to test and rearrange the following steps: 1. Activate the first line, played in the video above. Like I said, this could possibly be activated by just playing for a while without power, since it's Maxis' introduction and Richtofen's is just activated automatically when leaving the power area as Samuel with the power on, so Maxis' is probably activated in a similar, passive way. 2. Placing two turbines at the spire. Now I'm putting this here BECAUSE you can actually do this without ever turning the power on and Maxis WILL say his lines about needing more power and such. 3. Turn on the power. Maxis tells you that he needs a living, mobile power source after you place 2 turbines, and his line where he says "you've freed it" should come DIRECTLY after that. This entire thing is all about making his lines make sense. Turning off the power most likely comes directly after this as he tells you to turn it off right there and then. HOWEVER:The power most likely needs to be turned off WITH AN EMP. If it turns back on, he says the emp has worn off, it only makes sense to use one in this case. In my experience throwing an EMP pretty much permanently switched off the power but I'm sure somebody can provide info about how long it lasts. If it ever does wear off, it's likely Treyarch's way of forcing you to advance your rounds to get max ammo and therefore more emps. 4. Now you lure the avogadro to the spire and do the step with him. MAXIS DOES NOT TELL YOU TO ACTIVATE THE TRICHOTOMOUS SYSTEM HERE. He says you "need more energy." This next part is truly just speculation: Maxis has a line about finding a "new power source," and for "new cargo" needing to be delivered. It's possible that at this point there is a power source that arrives on the bus that must be brought to the cornfield. Maxis also has a line where he says a power source would require an "enormous burst of energy," meaning to activate this new power source you'd have to emp it. Once again, this section is purely speculative and is purely based on Maxis' lines. 5. Whether it's from a power source from the bus or elsewhere, once you give the spire more power, Maxis should say his line about "building the trichotomous system." Now, once the power has been turned on and then off, Maxis can say his "seconday node" line if you put a turbine near a lamppost, he cannot say it if the power switch hasn't been touched. Also, it's notable that if you place 2 turbines near 2 lampposts before completing at least the Avogadro step, then Maxis will tell you to "activate the spire's power," then asks presumably if you are circumscribed (I'm guessing this is a hint that you've done it wrong, and it's somewhat hidden because he messes up and says 'circumsized' at first.) That line MOST LIKELY is there to ask if you've done it correctly, and Maxis is confused that you've done the trichotomous system first, so he's surprised that he's told you to activate the spire's power because you should've done it first. NOW THAT MIGHT SOUND FARFETCHED, here's the thing: if you place 2 turbines at lampposts AFTER DOING THE SPIRE, Maxis will say that you have "completed the trichotomous system." 6. Now this part is somewhat iffy because if Maxis says the Trichotomous system is complete, he does not tell you to activate the spire's power. It's possible you could do it either way and that you simply need to do all steps in order prior to that in order to reach the final ending. ANYWAYS, the next step is to build the nav card table or insert your nav card. Maxis' line about "activating the spire's power" could easily be applicable to inserting your nav card, because his line about constructing the nav table tells you to "find a nav card to activate the spire." I don't know if that line can be triggered by building the nav card table on Maxis' side like with Richtofen, but it's more story focussed so it may just be said when getting back to the spire after doing the Trichotomous system. *UPDATE* Confirmed that building the nav card table doesn't activate Maxis' line. 7.So after inserting the nav card Maxis says his ending line, and says the "spire's online." The nav card, based on his quote about it, is definitely the last line before this. "-You have constructed a control mechanism which will program the computer. You will need to secure an application nav card. You will have to seek it out, then return here to activate the spire, to save mankind." "-Yes! The spire is online! Now, if the other sides can only be likewise empowered, then perhaps there is still a chance to complete that which was begun so many years ago. Your help has been invaluable, Farewell." When he talks about "other sides," he means other spires. SO THAT'S IT. IF YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME TO READ ALL THIS: THE KEY TO GETTING THE EASTER EGG'S REAL ENDING IS DOING THE STEPS IN A DIFFERENT ORDER. THE IDEA IS TO GET MAXIS TO GUIDE US THROUGH THE EASTER EGG WITH HIS LINES RATHER THAN JUST GETTING THE ACHIEVEMENT BY GETTING LUCKY. Remember, this isn't a "guide" or "tutorial," this is just a logical arrangement of events, based on Maxis' lines from the game files. We need to work together to test different orders of steps. Oh, and I really hate when people dig into Jimmy Zielinski's vacation photos and stuff, but he blatantly dropped a hint when he said "tell me what steps you've done, and in what order."
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