TheMadHatter

I know that voice at the end is Rictofen. However, if you listen there is what sounds like another voice that you can't understand, the voice that Stullinger tells "what if I don't want to mend the rift."

@Bagel I have a theory about the monster you are talking about. In the opening cutscene from Die Rise, there is that deep unintelligible voice who is talking to Stu. Stu then replies "what if I don't wan't to mend the rift?" This voice could be some sort of monster that wants to enter our universe to destroy it. Now, after you go back to Earth at the end of moon, you can look up and behind the teleporter area and you will see another Earth which looks properly messed up. Now most people have written this off as a glitch, but I think the devs put it there on purpose. This second earth is an earth in another universe, possibly even in the Ether. Now, if you look at the world of BO2 zombies, it seems like an alternate earth from another universe. What appears to be 1950's USA, Green Run, has a robot driving a bus, there is a version of Nacht der Untoten in a cornfield there, and in general it seems like a different version of our universe. Looking at the loading screen from Die Rise, the Earth in that universe has massive chunks missing from it, there are entire skyscrapers that have been flipped upside down, and everything you see seems to have been damaged on a level that cannot be achieved with any weaponry or devices that we know of. Thus, I am proposing that the BO2 zombies world is in fact where the Monster you are talking about resides, and he want Stulingher to mend the rift so he can enter our universe and destroy it also.

1. Richtofen in crazy, evil, and also has other people working for him. Also, the N4 have been working for Maxis also. 2. Maxis is in the aether. As for whether or not Maxis wants control of the zombies, we still aren't sure what he wants. 3. That is possible. You could start a thread about it. I was just letting you know about the rules of this forum, and suggesting that you would be better served in the general forums. hope this helps. :)

Questions like these aren't for the Asylum forum, this forum is for people with a strong grasp of the back story. You should post these over on the general discussion forum. Here http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=25013 is a beginner's cheat sheet with most of the info on zombies all laid out. if you have any more questions just ask over on the general discussion forum or feel free to pm me. ;)

Now there are two Hangar 18s in real life that I know of. The first is at Area 51, a location with a large connection to alien conspiracy theories. The other is Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. At this base, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book operation Blue Book, an official US government study, took place. Now this operation concluded, officially, that UFO's, at least alien ones, did not exist. However, a previous operation of a similar nature, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sign project sign concluded officially that UFOs did not exits but unofficially that they did exist and that they were alien in origin. Also, there have been numerous criticisms from people involved with the Blue Book project that this project was set up only to debunk UFOs, that scientists and analysts involved with the project ignored data, and that all in all the project was flawed and that it does not prove that UFOs do not exist. Finally, the other Hangar 18 is the MP map from Black Ops. Now I don't know if there is anything involving zombies on this map, but there could be.

Here's how Richtofen could connect these two world. Imagine parallel universes as baking sheets stacked on top of each other, with bugs crawling on them (the bugs are living beings in each universe). because of the arrangement of these universes, the bugs cannot see that there are other universes and thus are oblivious to this fact of the world. However, it is theoretically possible to make a "rip" in the space time continuum of one universe allowing things in an adjacent universe to enter it and vice-verse. This could be what Richtofen is trying to do, merge the universe of campaign and multiplayer with the zombies universe and maybe the aether as this could be another parallel universe.

most of your information is wrong. The US vs USSR arms race started after WWII, not before, the Russians did not ally with the soviets they became the soviets in 1917, and espionage was conducted stealthily not through obvious channels like a phone.

I just realized, the fact that Castro was at the Pentagon, seemingly having a meeting with Nixon, JFK, and McNamara, confirms almost beyond a doubt that Communists, including Russians, were working with the Americans. Also, great find with the red phones, I completely overlooked that myself.

the missiles could have been sent up to the moon in pieces, where the low gravity would have made assembly relatively easy. http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=29325&p=282574#p282574 this thread also proposed several ways of producing massive amounts of power as well as how to create an anti gravity device and even a spaceship. The designs and calculations for these devices were on the chalkboards at der riese, meaning that the Americans could have discovered them and tried to build them. Massive power sources, AG devices, and even a spaceship would have made it very easy for the Americans to get missiles to the moon. As for why the Soviets would be working with the Americans, the moon landers on Ascension look a lot like an American moon lander with a flat platform in place to the capsule. It is possible that the Americans traded technology related to space exploration for nukes and possibly the Thundergun.

This seems strange, given the antagonism between the two cold war superpowers, but Black Ops is littered with hints that the Soviets worked with the Americans. First and foremost, the thundergun, a Russian weapon, shows up in the lab area on Five. You cannot get this weapon from the box, but you can see it in the lab looking like it is about to be dissembled. What would a top secret Russian weapon be doing in the pentagon, unless the Soviets gave it to the Americans. I doubt that the Soviets would have let the Americans just take such a powerful weapon, instead I believe they would have destroyed it. Moreover, the lab area is filled with canisters of the Nova 6 gas. This gas was originally, according to the BO campaign, developed by the Nazi scientist Freidrich Steiner, and then perfected by him while he was working on for Dragovich, a Russian. The nova 6 bears a striking resemblance to the Russian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok_agent nerve gas. In addition to this, Daniel Clarke, a scientist who worked on Nova 6, bears a striking resemblance to the Pentagon thief. Both have markings on their face, and the thief has a bullet hole in his head where Clarke was shot. So what are the remnants of a Russian chemical weapons project and one member of this project doing in the Pentagon with a Soviet secret weapon? Most likely they are there as a result of some agreement between the soviets and the Americans. Looking at the missiles on Moon, they look suspiciously like the Soviet r-7 missile. The only possible explanation for there being three soviet missiles on an American moon base would be for the Soviets and the Americans to have been working together. Finally, here is an article from NASA itself that discusses talks between the U.S. and USSR and even hints at US-Soviet cooperation in the area of space rockets and exploration. In the end, the only possible all encompassing explanation for all of these things is that the U.S. and the USSR worked together in more ways than one.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... n_BOII.png The Schappeller device could be the device on the nuketown loading screen. This device looks like it is part of something much larger, the dark blue shadow above it, much like how the Schappeller device is composed of the larger section connected to a battery that is connected to the earth, and the nuketown device could possible be the battery. Also, the Schappeller device is supposed to emit a vortex, much like the vortex or mushroom cloud that centers on the NTZ map. Moreover, the NT device appears to be floating above the ground, tethered down, almsot as if it is being held up by an AG field. In addition to this, there are five nodes that are broadcasting electricity out of them, just like on the vril-1 saucer. Finally, in the left small photo, there appear to be several small spheres, much like the receiving spheres that are supposed to surround the Schappeller device. Similar spheres are on the Shangri la loading screen, and shangri-la is supposed to be near Area 51, where Nuketown is also near. Maybe the spheres from Shangri la are the spheres on the Schappeller device at nuketown. All in all, this looks like nuketown was a test site for a Schappaller device as well as some other designs from the Der Riese chalkboards. Edit: Looking at the Shangri La loading screen, there is a similar vortex along with the spheres, suggesting that there might have been a Schappeller device at Shangri La also.

originally, aether or ether was scientific idea used to explain how light could move though space. Scientists believed that light could not travel through a vacuum as there would me no medium for the light to travel through. Thus they came of with ether, a additional form of matter that would serve as a medium for light to travel through.

according the wikipedia, Lazar took some electronic classes in the 1970s, but there is no record of him having a degree, even though he claims to have one.

Mix, I was also pondering this, and I think I have a way to link the Soviets and the Americans. I know that new threads on Asylum have to be approved, and I would like to create a thread for this topic, so how would I go about getting a thread approved? -Hatter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj-HzHi3dF0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks6GC3wJFvc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld8aj_v6pcI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsdVDj4FmK8 Here is a collection of youtube videos that are part of an interview with john lear where he "tells it all." In total there are 4 to 5 hour of footage, so the important bits relating to zombies could be hidden away. I haven't had the time to watch even a small part of this, but I'll watch more later tonight. I hope this helps, and knock yourselves out guys.

Tranzit is set at the site of the Green Run project, a secret US government project that involved releasing a large amount of radiation into the atmosphere for testing purposes. Given that it took place in 1949, Green Run is part of the US becoming the premier nuclear power of the world and through that the most powerful nation in the world.

wow, very, very impressive. If the moon is indeed a mining operation, as suggested by the excavators and the strip mining like picture, than it would makes sense that the teleporter between the earth and moon would have been used to transport mining equipment to the moon and products from the mining to earth to be processed at area 51. Most likely, the Americans were trying to mine 115 as well as fissile materials on the moon, as that would have given them a distinct advantage over the Soviets, with fissile materials for missiles and 115 giving them the ability to produce a spaceship that would allow them to strike to soviets without warning.

Huh, I never thought that the Shanghai skyline being in province 22 could be Treyarch showing us how messed up the world could be. Maybe they are doing that also with Green Run. I get the feeling that there is something majorly important to the zombies story line that is staring me in the face but I just can't see it. Maybe this whole cities in places where they shouldn't be is part of it. I don't know, I just don't know.

PINAZ, I did look up the Green Run project, I was really just grasping at straws with the connection between Hanford Washington and Hanford California. Late nights aren't great for uncovering the mysteries of zombies.

I know that there has been a lot of talk about whether or not Green Run is Hanford Washington, and there seems to be some kind of consensus that it is. If you look at the train schedule on the multiplayer map Express, one of the stops is Hanford, albeit Hanford California. However this makes sense as on the world zombie map selector screen, Green Run appears to be almost due west of Nuketown Zombies, which on the world screen says is in Nevada. Thus it seems that the train schedule on Express is telling us that Green Run is in Hanford California, not Hanford Washington.

Alright, I have found some significance behind another zombies name. Belinski, as in Nikolai Belinski, is the last name of Russian theoretical physicist Vladimir Belinski. He, along with two other physicists, created the BKL singularity, a model of the universes evolution near the initial singularity, the big bang. Now part of the BKL singularity theory is that the entire universe, not a small part of it, is affected by a time singularity. This means that in the entirety of the universe, as the value for time reaches a very large or very small number the direction of the flow of time changes. Now I don't fully understand this theory, not by a long shot, so if anyone is able to understand it fully feel free to correct me. I may in fact be getting this all wrong, so bear that in mind. Now, if I am correct, Vladimir Belinski and this theory has a lot to do with the time travel and time altering aspects of CoD zombies. There is the possibility that this reversal in time could play a part in the future of zombies. Either Maxis or Richtofen could try to reverse the flow of time in an attempt to make it that they always had power over zombies or somehow gain power in another way sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Belinski http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BKL_singularity

Wow, very impressive. I was inspired by your discovery that Stuhlinger was the name of a Nazi rocket scientist and decided to see if there was some significance to the names of the other zombies characters. Briarton, as in Abigail "Misty" Briarton, was part of the pseudonym "General Briarton" used by the author Reginald Brentnor when he was writing the Ferdinand Feghoot series of vignettes about time travel. I know it is a very minor link between these two, but still it's better than nothing.

Richtofen was not all that bad until he touched the MPD. In fact, all that he was interested in was teleportation, not creating an army. As for being mistreated by maxis, maxis makes fun of him teleporting walnuts as part of his experiments. In one of the radios you can here Maxis saying something about how Richtofen's experiments would revolutionize the walnut industry and how he could see it not "Richtofen's walnut delivery business." It was only after being shocked by the MPD Richtofen became what he is now.

I can find significance for the name "Green Run". Green Run was a secret U.S. government project that involved the release of radioactive fission products. It took place at the Hanford Site plutonium production facility. Now, Hanford Site is located near Hanford, Washington, a small agricultural town. Hanford is a very close match to Town from BO2 and the fact that this is an agricultural town could explain Farm. Now, the release of radiation could in fact be the cause of the forest dwellers, and even the zombies if the radiation included some element 115, which we know, from moon, that the U.S. government had. If this is the cause of the zombies, then I would place the time period of Green Run in the 1950's-60's. In addition to this, the bus in Tranzit looks like a GM "new look" transit bus, a vehicle produced from 1959-1977. The semi truck in Farm looks like a ford C series from the 1960's, and the architecture style is very late 50's, early 60's. Thus, the name Green Run gives us the time period of this map as well as a possible cause of the zombies at Green Run. Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford,_Washington http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_New_Look_bus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_C-Series

we've seen from the Die Rise opening that the Earth is broken into a bunch of pieces, maybe the heroes will have to use this "black box" to put the earth back together.