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Although I haven't played this map, the parts about unexplained noises just scream Verruckt at me. With the sobbing and screaming. Great Post.

The launchers are the only thing I got diamond and this was the worst challenge. Nobody uses AGRs at all and when they do someone with EMPs is always in the game

As far as I know either achievement will work as they both give the golden rod to richtofen. Correct me If I'm though .

I think that if they wanted to Treyarch could make two games next year, Cod (Blackops 3?) and Cod:survivors. I think the zombie fan base has reached a point where it can diversify into its own game. This would include a campaign with a new story, while also continuing on with the richtofen story in the "multiplayer" mode. Just my idea ;)

The engineer is a zombie from Dead ops Arcade, which drops from the sky from the rooftop level onwards. So they are not Brutus so to speak. Nice one though trying to link the old to the new :)

I haven't experianced this particular problem but I often have my Co-op kills and my Versus kills not adding up to make my total kills. There's a similar thing with downs, head shots etc

The one, the only, the quantum entanglement device. And the amazing FG42 from WaW by far my favourite wall weapon

I hope that wasn't directed at me. I had one as a result of running out of Gold for a month. Once I was able to pay for my online, I switched back to my main account. I play Grief the exact same way I play it now; dirty, but very aggressive. But yes; if you make another account primarily to only have shotguns, then you are not playing up to par like you should. No, it wasn't Infest. The topic was brought up, and that's what I had to say on the subject. I mentioned earlier I don't think you guys count as your generic players. I think the generic are rude and arrogant, and you for sure are definitely not that. Btw, guys, don't get so wrapped up in argument. While our differences in opinion may shine through this discussion, the fact that we are even bothering to discuss it shows our open-mindedness, something not common of the typical gamer. Therefore I think all of us as atypical, which in my eyes is a good thing. Agreed , none of codz is typical as we want to learn more and care strongly about zombies

I wasn't talking about you, so don't take it personally. But there are players who even the most rank-hating people can't deny show that you can be very good at zombies and have the highest rank while still being both an amazing team player and/or an incredibly good solo player. Some examples right off the top of my head include YouTube monsters RelaxingEnd and ChristianR87, and KingJaq and Steve. I totally agree, if a player is amazing at zombies , like 50+ rounds every time then they most likely would be shotguns

I'm rooting it to be in the UK soooo much There's plenty of castles and keeps over here. Spiral Staircases, trapdoors, Arrow holes, drawbridges. Come on over treyarch, you'll love it here.

@Dahniska *sigh* first of all I'm going to quote MMX First of all you should be able to play EVERY game mode without choosing between fun and playing with good people. Secondly you definitely shouldn't have to choose between searching the map or playing with good people and getting high rounds, especially at the games launch. Thirdly there should not be a feature that causes you to choose yet again And finally there should NOT be a punishment for people that are bad so that it is a lot more difficult to play the game This is what I am talking about, these ranks have segregated the community and players Also I was NOT saying that EVERY shotgunner does this but there are quite a few that do do this and from my experience MOST (not all but most) shotgunners would rather save themselves then help others at the risk of themselves. Even if I was saying that all players were like this, which I'm not, I would not appreciate being insulted.

I think you're negatively stereotyping way too much. While as I said earlier, having shotguns does not make you KingJaq, in 98% of the cards I've seen, the shotgun players are indeed better at zombies than the lower ranks. I'll also add to that that while it is good and important to revive downed teammates, in a lot of cases there's no way you can revive someone, so just staying alive is the best option. For example, I was playing MotD last night and was running outside the Cafeteria. I got downed, revived myself and ran for the gondola. As I got into the gondola, one zombie got in and double slapped me. I told my partner not to worry about it. There was no way he could have gotten me up and we both knew it. 98% !! In my experiance it's about 65%, but I suppose it's just luck on who you get. In that example yes I agree no one would have been able to get you ( not that I really know the map layout due to ps3 (8 days left ) ) But many times I have played and they haven't even tried to get me when I'm in the opposite building on town for example. The most annoying thing is if they have quick revive as well, or monkeys.

I agree all of zombies should be for fun, we shouldn't have to choose between fun and rank because it spoils so much of what we love. P.S. Just played grief with a team of shotgunners against a team of skulls and bones. Skulls and bones won, two of them rage quit. That's what I'm talking about ;)

I have with my secondary account. I must've played at least 4 Grief matches where I went down over 5 times per game. By the end of the last match, I went from Shotguns back down to the Knife. I saw it immediately and played vivaciously the next match with 0 downs but over 500 kills. I went straight back up to Shotguns. All this while I retained a 200+ K/D. I didn't go below it at all. Ah ok thanks, so this proves that either the kd ratio needed is above 200 , or way is right and it is based on other things. I'm rooting for the latter.

I hope you are right with that one. By the way has anyone ever actually dropped a rank? Or know somebody that has dropped?

Its never to late to get the knife. Its soooo easy The more games that you play the harder it gets to change you Kill/downs ratio. Think of it this way , If I had a 100:1 kd ratio then it would be a number of 100 and to make it go up by 1 unit then all you need to get is one kill. But if I have a 10000:100 the the ratio would still be 100 units, but to raise the units by 1 would mean you having to get 100 more kills. Now imagine if I had even more kills and deaths. It would be even harder. It's the same thing with multiplayer a kd ratio, which is why I've been stuck on 1.84 for the last 2 months.

@murdah4Hire yeah I agree that it's not just shotgunners but it seems to be mostly them. @stop mocking me0. Agreed. Don't fix it if its not broken. @TheBSZombie. But why should we have to. Surely people that just want to play for fun and high rounds can, without ragequitters and the like. Plus as I have done if you have played anough games and then realise that it's pretty much too late to change your rank, then what are you supposed to do. Your stuck with ragequitters and mostly obnoxious Shotgunners @schittus_d Shotgunners don't like playing with shotgunners either! Who do they want to play with then? Treyarch employees maybe :)

Agreed, and I think that afterlife was there to eliminate who's who due to the obvious faults that it had. So what faults need fixing with afterlife . I'm joking though I don't think that there will be any more afterlife/who's who/tombstone style thing

I don't remember this being announced. TBH I think that treyarch will never repeat moon because they've literally been there and done that. It will be too samey with the antigravity and all that

@MurderMachineX There are a few that break this trend though like many that are on this forum. @birdman22 *sigh* Treyarch and their many mysteries. It's why we love them and why we hate them. @ZombicidaManiac ;)

I have to agree with this the best people normally are the most arrogant. Of course there are exceptions like way and many others but.... In my school there are three P.E (physical education or sport) groups with group 1 being the "best" at sport and set 3 being the "worst". There is a direct link to how sporty they are and how smart and arrogant they are. Again there are exceptions but most of the time the more sporty the more arrogant and idiotic. Earlier I was playing with 3 shotguns ( whom I only just about managed to convince to play with me, just a lowly blue eyed skull), and I utterly trounced all of them.They all had at least 5 downs by the end of it whereas i only had 2, with 15 revives as well. One even asked if he could add me. I replied no because me a skull wouldn't want to play with you shotgunners. That shut him right up.

If I get insta-kill and double points at the same time I often go KNIFE TIME Na na na na, na na na count touch this This carries on till either the insta kill or double points ends

Well I mean that does make sense. It's just way far too coincidental. And if they can build stuff within five seconds, part at a time, then that's also crazy. Because even a person dumb as Russman could build it. But no skill is involved at all with building it. The only part that would have required any skills is the "ammo" cartridge/barrel ( the part that's at the bottom of the stairs on a barrel or up in the shower room), which is already pre-made. All the other parts( fire extinguisher, mannequins foot and hose trigger) are just parts that they glued onto the" gun part" to act as a stock, grip and trigger. What I'm trying to say is that they could have used anything for those parts as the only part that has mechanics is the pre-built ammo canister/barrel. I'm not sure if that was very clear, so sorry if it is too scruffy ;)

Personally I think that the N4 just found the parts and decided " oh I know if we put them together they will create a gun shaped object, just like they thought to put together the turret and riot shield. The interesting part is the "ammo" canister ( i.e the pink liquid filled tube). This definately looks like it was designed specifically to hold this liquid. The rest of the parts were just added to make it into a gun, for example the manaquins foot acting as a stock and the fire extinguisher acting as a holder. I think that the "ammo" canister was either designed by a Chinese version of 935, group 935 itself but it was stolen by the Chinese. Or the strangest theory, it was found somewhere and had came from the sky( similar to the meteorite on the roof). This explains how it was just left somewhere carelessly, someone had found it and had brought it down into the sweatshop with them. That's just my idea though.

A commen belief is that the 6 is referring to the "nova 6 crawlers" I personally believe that we have not met the 6 yet, and they will be coming soon And that mystery painting is just that, a mystery. I believe it to be the ultimate evil ( the evil deity that all religions evil figures I.e Satan, The Aztec one ( Michantutli, I don't know the spelling), Hades, Osiris. But then there are many differant interpretations