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Well if this tells you anything I have 50k+ kills with the MSR on Mw3. But before I reset my stats on that game I had another 60k Kills, so over 100k kills in total and somewhere around 25k with the Ballista but I've quit BO2 MP almost completely so I don't see that number going up. I personally hope to see the barrett taken out to make room for the ballista. I know that would only leave us with 1 semi-auto (SVU-AS if it's even in the map) But I feel like the barrett is totally useless. Anyone else hoping to see the M27 again? I love that gun on NKTZ.

I don't think we will have the comic like cutscene and instead will have one like MotD's. The origins trailer shows us they have full CG models for them that they could easily use for a cinematic.

Why does everyone support this now?!?! Two weeks ago all anyone said was: "Oh my god mocking me there is NOT going to be a DLC5! Get over it!".... sorry but i dont support it. nothing against you, but i dont think they will remake those maps just for the simple fact that ppl still play BO1. those maps contained the O4 anyway, cant really see the N4 playing the old maps for no reason at all since we kinda know where they were going. and about the globe, i think they just made it our map selection to emphasize that we'll be traveling around the broken world. probably also did it so we would buy season pass thinking there would be alot more zombie maps lol they said in the message of the day its the final dlc, but idk trollarch likes to go back on some words. The only reason we have the globe is because 3arc is using th MP engine this time and it's easier for them to just use the same type of background screen that MP uses. Go from MP and Zombies and when you're not selecting maps the globe is in the exact same position.

I honestly don't think a new storyline could even come close to the greatness of the one we have now.

I really hope the OP wasn't serious when posting this. It's clueless idiots like him that make me want to kill things that aren't zombies..

Haha, don't worry. I don't think that many people know it does anyways. This is why I completely believe this will be end of Zombies. We get to choose our ending. We choose what happens. They can't possibly continue from BO2 storyline since they gave us 4 different endings (unless they pull a Mass Effect). It's the same with zombies and the 2 endings they give us in Buried and possibly Origins.

Me, too. Me, too. But I don't understand why people are hating on the Ballista. It'll be better than the DSR. And this is coming from a guy that adores the DSR P-a-P'd with iron sights. Same here, I always take the DSR no matter what. BUT I love the ballista so much. As an avid sniper in MP this gun is my favourite out of any in all of BO2. It's going to be great for headshots with that Iron Sight and PaP'd we may get a scope on it then. I really want to use this gun.

Hydra-Infradead Mark II 8-) I will cry from happiness if that turns out to be it :D

Why does no one understand that both endings would be canon. In the campaign we have 4 different endings with all of them being canon. For zombies we get the ending that WE choose. It's that way with Buried and if we get an EE like MotD's for Origins then it will be this way for Origins as well.

I actually think the Ballista will be very good. Iron Sight means easy headshots and I'm sure it will be powerful. Since this is my favourite gun in the whole game I really can't wait to see what it is Pack a Punched.

Good points. I almost forgot 115 has electrical elements to it.

Yeah, I'm just going to stay nuetral now on if eye colour is based off emotion or just with there being a new person. It's probably just Treyarch way of letting us know it's someone different and we're all looking to deep into it. What's really been bugging me is that no one has mentioned that the giant robots eyes are yellow as well. Surely it's not just 1 zombie controlling those huge things? Yet their visor/eyes/ show up as a very bright yellow.

True, I love theorizing though, it's fun. Only on Moon really do we see her that evil though. In many of the other EE songs she mentions thinking that everything is in her head and part of her imagination. Maybe it's just an oversight from Treyarch or you found the one hole in the logic for it being their emotions. EDIT: I'm still thinking that over in my head. Still just a theory though. This all just makes me want to have Origins already and see who our demonic announcer will be this time.

Yeah that makes sense. I was looking at it from a 3rd person perspective. Objectively Richtofen is more evil than maxis. However looking through there eyes, maxis is more aware that what he is doing is evil. Even after he is ejected from his seat of power, Richtofen says "Maxis is always ruining mein fun und games!" Exactly

Yes but he still is destroying the entire planet. His intentions are evil yet also loving at the same time. This is why we get the mix of red and yellow for orange eyes. Samantha was trying to kill the remnants of G935 out of love for her dad and did think it was all a big game. She didn't have that evil in her. It was too innocent, now Maxis knows exactly what he's doing and the evil implications of it. Richtofen while evil, is mainly having fun. It's how their emotions toward their actions are. Richtofen doesn't see it evil, he see's it as fun. Maxis knows it's evil but it's also out of love. Samantha is doing it purely from love for her father and thinks it's a game, she doesn't view it as evil. EDIT: All just a theory here, not trying to pass all this off as true. I feel this makes more sense then our current reasoning though for the eye colour change.

Hardly moving, I've never had an issue PaP'ing on Die Rise.

I like this idea and while I don't think many people liked how PaP moved from CotD I really enjoyed that idea and wished they had used again sooner. It just adds more difficulty to use PaP.

We don't know for certain that it is the Balista. I am only adding the confirmed things to the OP I can 100% confirm that is an Iron Sight Ballista. I've played MP extensively and sniped almost constantly. That is the Ballista with Iron Sights. There's no other gun in this whole game that's even close to looking like it. I don't have a single doubt in my mind it's that gun. The stock and colour are the exact same as the standard Ballista and so is the top rail where the scope would be since this has Iron Sights. Also to point out, the gun clearly isn't PaP'd yet it has an Iron Sight? Maybe they just don't give us a scope with it once we acquire it?

Maybe we were wrong all along and it is emotions.. Yellow = Confused, sad, love ( for her father or she just adopted the regular zombie colour for herself. Unaware of her power.) Red = Evil. Pure Evil and hate. Orange = Evil but Maxis also has that feeling of love for his daughter Blue = Happy, fun, energetic. Richtofen loves having the power of the aether. He's happier than ever.

I'm guessing since we'll have dynamic weather ( rain, snow, fog ) this will have the same effect from tranzit and hide the other textures in the distance. Making it run much better

Love the redesigns. They all look even more badass than before. EDIT: Off topic but I mentioned this in another thread. Nikolai is holding a Ballista.

Pause at 52 seconds at the close up of Nikolai. He's holding a Ballista.

um....when did this become an alternate universe? It's pretty obvious. Why do the MoTD gangsters not remember the Zombie/Robot Invasion of 1917 occurring? The Marines? President Kennedy and his associates? The CoTD group? The N4? Group 935? Hell, the O4 doesn't remember it after nor even before their memory loss. All of these events occur in multiple tangled timelines. MotD is the only map to take place in it's own little Universe. The rest all exist in the same universe. and who's to say they don't remember them? Government cover ups etc. can easily keep the public from knowing. Also with the O4, Samantha directly sent zombies after them in the maps were at. Once they left, the zombies stopped roaming there too because Samantha had moved on to killing them somewhere else. Of course they don't remember this after theyre memory loss. It's called Memory LOSS for a reason.

This would actually be really cool. Hopefully it's there.

Certainly, it's unmistakable. I noticed it right away.