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i played the map a few times and it was long matches but i had no clue about half the things on that list! Thanks, and Cheers!

Could be.... at this stage with only a few days left i guess anything is plausible.....

Its on the right page, its a tear that resembles half of a man from the chest up, the pic is up

Guys, now i might sound completely like an idiot, but what if, just what if the mysterious guy standing on top on the top right side of the page, is also Richtofen? Now i just sound like an idiot I know but the silhouette and that mysterious figure. I am just saying we cant ignore it, but then i am also saying i sound like an idiot.

I think we will have to rethink that now since the main easter egg is about Saving Samantha. I mean if she was in control, I dont see how we save her. This brings the major question. Whats going on here? I mean we have to save samantha, at the same time we are going back in time in which samantha shouldnt exist.(I might be wrong since i dont know her exact age). Richtofen is suffering from the side effects of 115 (This was proven in one of the threads where a guy made a connection with the 6 th radio i guess, where maxis points out that the 115 is affecting him.), and the other three seem unfazed by meeting each other. I mean its world war one, you see enemy you shoot rite? But they see each other and they instantly forget about their current situation. I am confused.......:S

THANK YOU! I am glad I am not the only one who noticed the rip was gone! Ooo i did not notice that....... Any one knows y?? And no worries it wasnt offensive since you did not know about my color blindness. But anyone know why it was taken out?

Correct me if I am wrong but since this is the beginning Maxis has no reason to chase Richtofen or the others rite? I mean Richtofen didnt show his true self tell later in the story? But that aside i think its highly unlikely Maxis is controlling the Robots because then he would be helping us out. But i will agree with your one question, WHERE THE HELL IS MAXIS? I mean first we just hear his voices in the radio, but then we get to see his face but there is indication as to where the hell is he throughout this whole situation?

Thanks i appreciate it!

Umm sorry about the colour, i am color blind (no joke). And as for my second theory i would like to know how am i wrong? When people first saw it everyone thought it was maxis, but look at him in the trailer! He looks nothing like the silhouette. I do not know what it means but its just an observation. I am just saying that richtofens head fits the silhouette better. or in other words debugging that silhouette being Maxis.

My theory , which i have put forward before, is that maybe like the ghost , blue zombies only occur after you enter the area... here is my thread btw:- viewtopic.php?f=155&t=35237

I wanna discuss 2 theories I have about the things that struck me when i was watching the origins trailer. I havent read these anywhere and if these have been discussed then i apologise beforehand. So lets begin.... 1.) Blue eyed zombies :- By now you must have already noticed that there are two different eye colored zombies. My theory is that maybe the Blue color zombies only appear if you enter the tomb shown in the cut-scene. I mean every clip we have where gameplay is shown shows only orange or yellowish coloured zombies being slaughtered. This kind of gives credibility to my theory. This could be similar to the ghost in Buried. 2.) This one is a bit far fetched but just have an open mind. Remember the Die Rise comic strip which had a silhouette of a man which we presumed was maxis? Well watch........ See the similarities? We were wrong this whole time.... I just noticed and wanted to share....So leave your thoughts down below. Cheers!

Hmmm, the eyes do look similar to the wisp... Looking back at some of the Buried EE quotes, look at how the wisp was described: Maybe what (or who) the wisp is can be explained somehow through this? I had no clue that the wisp was actually a separate entity. And when we do Richtofens side we have to take it to the HangMan's Noose , as Rechtofen said "Ah the Wisp is such a tricky little sausage. I think he may have chosen to return to his points of origin. That's just a fancy way for me to say: 'START AGAIN!". Now for Richtofen to say this means maybe the wisp was somebody we knew? or somebody that holds great importance?

As someone mentioned that maybe the force from Die Rise is connected in this. I think it is highly possible since we totally forgot about it. I mean i sure did with all these maps coming out. But i highly think there might me some connection. What if the Entity that samantha mentioned back on Moon was not actually Lucifer but this entity. Could explain the color. Again i am colour blind but could anyone tell me the Eye color of this zombie and the zombies in Die Rise is same or not? If not then this will be just another arrow shot in the dark. Also please check the cutscene for die rise when they are teleported. Maybe the color might be same. Maybe......

Ok so you are telling me that richtofen is controlling the zombies. I am colorblind (no joke) so help me out and tell me is this the same color as Rochtofens cause if it is this is some serious fucked up shit. I mean as if we werent mind fucked already!!

I spelled vials wrong, damn. That aside in the trailer , the very first one, they show the close up of all the characters and Richtofens character has two blood vials on his waist with numbers on it. These numbers are the prisoner numbers for Sal and Finn (My favourite character!).

Well to be honest what i really think is that maybe this is just a start over to fill the Gaps, but as someone suggested that the blood viles are just there for a nod, i strongly disagree. I have been shot down many times so I will be ok if you reject this but there is a connection. Nikolai's name and these blood viles is just too much of a troll dont you think?

Thanks to you man, you had a huge hand in helping this thread live as long as it has! I owe you for this thread and making me realize my mistake about the theory i had! And is it releasing today or sometime this week? The opening cutscene i mean

That could also be the case , but like i said who knows? We cant speculate until the opening cut scene that drops sometime this week....

If lucifer is in control in Origins then the eyes would be red. plain and simple, he's not in control on Origins. I very highly doubt anything about Moon and Time Travel will be involved since neither have happened yet. Dude if lucifer is in control, and him being the ultimate being , dosent he also change the eye colours. Just saying, this eye color business always seemd fishy to me but you might be rite...

Well, to be honest I am not so sure about anything anymore. Like the image treyarch released of the original 4 was pretty bad ass and then they said that they will release the Opening Cut-scene this week. So if we make anymore speculation, it should be after watching it. I mean when we see the trailer one thing will be confirmed or denied. Does time travel or the Original 4 being in the moon have connection to the current prequel O4. As for the Alcatraz connection, (IN WHICH I STRONGLY BELIEVE), it will only be confirmed or denied once the map drops. Or, just a speculation, in the opening cutscene we hear Lucifer talking to most prolly Richtofen. Because then we will have another solid evidence that Lucifer was in control here and alcatraz. Also, another thing to note is that Alcatraz and Origins are not really that far apart. If origins takes place in 1918, then the time span is not that big On another note, THIS IS MY FIRST POST TO REACH TWO PAGES! Thanks for all your inputs guys!

(I hope I'm not too far off the mark with all this? Probably...) So correct me if i am wrong, are you saying that the weather was changed by the lightening hitting the stone. I am sorry if i sound stupid but i am really confused But dont let my confused self from letting you know that sir, you are EPIC!

Dude i apologize man. You are rite, i saw the trailer again and there is no date mentioned. As for the B part you blew my mind. I SHIT YOU NOT, i never thought about it that way or knew that the three characters represent the three sins. Now lets see here, 2 blood viles belonging to Sal who committed adultery and Finn who lied, both in the hands of Richtofen who actually committed both the sins. But he also murdered , so there is the flaw in my theory , but that aside thanks for enlightening me with this dude. And i apologize for being rude and shooting you down like that. Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but when did Richtofen commit adultery? (I never looked at the bio in WAW) Dude, i wrote that Sal committed adultery and his blood is with Richtofen in the trailer. There is no apparent proof of him committing adultery anywhere. Though many times it is hinted that he is gay, but that aside no such proof of him committing any adultery has ever surfaced.

Nice research and find dude, i mean the circular markings and the markings on the ORIGINS logo are quite identical, too much of a coincident to be ignored. Also, to be honest i didnt understand about the pillars too much but from what i did understand , you could be onto something! Awesome research dude!

In the Origins trailer, Richtofen has blood bags on his belt, matching Finn and Sal's inmate number. You probably know he worked for Group 935. Also, I found a hidden Alcatraz reference on the official Activision site. On the Origins bio. Hard to see, but it is visable. Group 935 may not have had any involvement with Alcatraz, but both points are worth noticing.... Typing 935 in was one of the reasons that had me wonder if "where are we Going" was actually about these characters. Also as you said the vials match Sal and Finn's prisoner numbers exactly and that's waaayyyy to coincidental in my opinion. Why would they just throw that in there if not to reference Mob in some way, they had to know that we'd make that connection, the question is why? Thats the point man, These two maps are connected, we know that. How is the question. I mean we know weasel knows or hears Nikolai's name. We know that we enter 935 in that number board for the song. We know richtofen is carrying their blood. So assuming that he has their blood could it be that Richtofen collected the blood by their tomb. I know it sounds far fetched but these two maps arent that far apart . This was pointed out to me by Stop Mocking Me (I hope i wrote his name right.) in my thread which is about the MoTD reference in the origins trailer. Now we know they are connected, no doubt. But y and how is anybody's guess.

That could be but he did keep a lot of stuff from Maxis and as for adultery, if i am not wrong, he is gay and there dosen't seem to be any thing to suggest he has commited any of these acts so maybe you are correct there. And no need for the thanks dude. I was misinformed and wrong. You showed me the falws and new stuff so I am thanksful for that man!