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For those of you who have not seen the ending cutscene upon completing the Origins Easter Egg, do not read on. For those who have, here's some interesting information that may help us in discovering the identity of the boy we see called "Eddie". Now I know everyone's sort of up in arms about the cutscene, it contradicts a lot of things and explains a lot of other things, and a lot of people are debating whether it is canon or not. For the sake of this thread, let's assume that the cutscene is absolute. We see Samantha and Eddie, two young children playing "zombies". A lot of people have immediately thought that Eddie is Richtofen, seeing as Richtofen is the only character who shares the same first name in Zombies and is also the character who bares most resemblence. I personally have tried not to believe that this is the case, purely because I didn't want to, I liked to think Richtofen is the Richtofen we know, not that he has some history as an American-accented playfriend to Samantha. Yet as unlikely as it may sound right now, what if Edward Richtofen and Eddie are different people? Allow me to explain how this could be possible. Firstly, the accent. Eddie has an American accent. Edward Richtofen is German through and through. (However I am aware the same could be said for Samantha). Secondly, Richtofen in Origins is a young man, and Richtofen in all other maps is a fully-grown adult, possibly as old as 50. Eddie is a boy (at MOST a young teenager). How could Edward Richtofen be a similar age to Samantha at any point in time when Samantha was still a girl when Richtofen knew her during his time working with her father Ludvig Maxis and Group 935? Now the fun part, to delve deeper at this :twisted: Let's go way way back to Black Ops one. Remember the famous terminal with the DerRiese server? The terminal served as a Zombie's goldmine, we found so much information from the servers of Dr V. Bush and others, yet at the same time we could never access the DerRiese server. We had 9 usernames and not a single password, and not a single password was ever found. The usernames were as follows: ■drmaxis ■sophia ■samantha ■peter ■edward ■erichtofen ■nbelinski ■tdempsey ■tmasaki So we have an "erichtofen" login and an "edward" login. When this was first discovered there was speculation that maybe there was another Edward in the Zombie's universe, but many people were not convinced, and assumed the 2nd account was either an error or simply Richtofen having 2 accounts for whatever reason. He is a shifty individual after all. However I do believe it is slightly significant now to those people who believe Eddy is NOT Richtofen. Thoughts?
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Interesting, I always thought "La Source Noire" was worth looking into. It's likely that Treyarch having referenced/used artwork of the same painter in 2 separate zombie maps is no coincidence. Great find!
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Samantha says this on Moon when she is nearing death; "Soon, I will be dead...THEN you will be sorry!" It's easy to overthink these type of things, but could this possibly mean something? Maxis is trying to find his daughter in Argatha if you complete his Endgame on Buried, but is she not in Richtofen's body? Upon her death did she go to Argatha? Hmm :?
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I've seen a lot of people suggest that Origins is linked to certain maps throughout the history of Call of Duty Zombies, but I'd like to bring something to light that I'm hoping a few people have noticed, but I'm as far as I'm aware no-one has made this relation yet. I personally believe that in some way or another Origins links to every map. I mean, it is the beginning of the storyline, it's place of origin, so of course it's going to tie into other maps! But what I found I believe to be very important In Ascension we hear in the 3rd radio Yuri Zavoyski had stumbled upon a diary; A diary. Sound familiar? Now, I'm not sure about other people, but upon the time of Ascensions release on up until this moment in time, I always believed this to be a diary of either Maxis, Richtofen or maybe another Group 935 scientist. However, thanks to Treyarch's "Letters From The Field" entry on 25/08/2013, we have enough ground to build a theory on Richtofen's entry reads as follows, for those who haven't read it already; A journal, eh? Is it possible that Yuri had his hands on the diary of Pablo Marinus, a possession Richtofen once had back in 1918 which led him on his journey through the experimentation of 115? Who is Pablo Marinus? Is it sheer coincidence that upon Yuri discovering the diary, Samantha takes an interest in him and the Ascension group? Too many questions that will hopefully be answered, roll on Tuesday. *I initially made a HUGE thread with a theory surrounding Ascension and Origins that I was going to post in Asylum, but it deleted itself :cry: , happy to answer any questions as I have a strong belief about the significance of this find, let me know what you think EDIT: I stumbled upon this great thread by gamechanger which explains how Stuhlinger has a diary in Zombies, with quotes to back it up and Treyarch even going as far to put it on his person model. Be sure to give it a read, it could link to this viewtopic.php?f=100&t=34909
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