DrVonstool

What if it's possible that the reason they are introducing the shadow man and the satanic archetype is to explain previous maps? I mean, I just got done playing Der Riese and when Richtofen picked up a carpenter, he responded to the announcer by saying "Thank you, my lord!" does this imply that Der Riese is a possible MotD situation? I need to get up-to-date on what the general consensus is. In any case, I like the idea of Morgue City as well as it being "The Underworld" where the players meet Cerberus in its true form and satanic rituals and so on and so forth.

Indeed. I remember reading somewhere that this map was supposed to be able to stand on its own as an independent map that only has vague connections to the overarching story as well as MotD. If this were to be the case, I'd say that these connections lie in the quotes, the characters and their backstory, and possibly the map itself. However, the reason I love to look at the quotes with a heightened sense of credibility is because that's one of the few things that we have to use in understanding other events and their purpose. That is, one of the few things directly from the dragon's mouth so to speak. The only quote that was used almost as a repeat quote was Billy's. It only makes me imagine what the other characters will say as we play this game, come Nov. 6. I also like to imagine that Shadow Man is Satan and that three headed beast is Cerberus. However, considering a post I read involving intergalactic aliens and The Tall Greys, I begin to feel the illumminati's presence once again.

I think the connections between the two maps will be loose but there. I've already noticed while playing MotD as Finn and Billy that the quotes are what connect most. Billy's quote, "Just like taking candy from a baby!" and then Vincents's "...but without the baby." Finn's "I might just go bare knuckle on these half-wits" makes me think of Campbell's dirty boxing and removing his padding from the gloves. Finn's "One punch knock-out" for Campbell's cheating in using brass-knuckles. Of course, these assumptions were already made I'm just wondering how they connect. Some theories I created while playing was that Vincent might have been involved with Sal's gang, Campbell might have been involved in the dirty boxing/gambling ring, it's possible to assume that Jessica might have a loose connection with Billy's mom, and Nero could just be our Faust protagonist. Nero is the only character that has no connection to MotD and no where in Mob is there a mention of a magician. However, there is a striking mention of Magic. What with Finn's quote about Magic Bullets, it's fair to theorize that Nero is the wanna-be magician who bites off more of the paranormal than he can chew.

@BennetsGreen I'm going to PM you and we will have a long discussion about this separate topic which is completely unrelated to this forum topic. @Chopper You seem to have failed. I'm sorry. You didn't understand the original post. It was a suggestion/example playlist for those who enjoy metal with their zombies. If you don't enjoy metal then post your own playlist and keep your bullshit to yourself. You know what, though? I also failed. I failed to see that I clearly focused too heavily on my anger towards both of your comments to really get you to understand that this Posting Purpose is to spread around music for all to hear. To be an outgoing person is to list the music then maybe go into detail about why you chose the music and why you think it fits. That should clear the TranZit fog. <-- Not confirmed

I feel the emotion in that what I'm sensing is a musical composition that fits the mood, not just the shattering of the undead. Songs like Sign of the Southern Cross by Black Sabbath or even as simple as When the Levee Breaks by Led Zeppelin. However, I contest that punk rock should be ousted from any type of involvement. I say this because punk rock is what I like to call "Watered down metal". Please, take offense. I also contest the emotion style songs becoming more frequent in the music, I'm not contesting the music just the involvement in zombies. It's one thing to apply the music to the story and the lyrics to the story but it's another when slow music is attempting to compliment thousands of undead flowing in like water. It's eerie, it's theatrical, but it's not the mood. When the water is flowing and you don't have paddles, you would want Judas Priest on your side motivating you to keep fighting. My conclusion brings about two things, the first of which involves your opinion and the second involves mine. First I do think a variety of music would help the zombie scene. That's why I advocate classical compositions over modern day music, that is if the proper piece is being played to compliment the chaos. However, to say that punk rock deserves a place in zombies is to say that Coldplay should play at the Big Four of Thrash. Second, I think metal, hardcore metal, thrash metal, speed metal, heavy metal, death metal, fantasy metal, gay metal, bent metal, straight metal, hard metal, shiny metal, cold metal, hot metal, whatever the fuck you call it, it has earned its place in zombies as the tone setter and the chaos creator. I would've assumed that we all have great memories of slaughtering many zombies to Beauty of Annihilation and 115 from the Moon map. The point is, metal has its place. That's that. I'm glad you like punk rock, I'm glad you think Black Sabbath's Fluff would make a good Zombie tune, let's keep it as opinions and nobody has to get hurt. Especially me, because handing out idle threats is not a means of danger. To keep it on track, you are supposed to post your songs of choice, not judge the playlist provided in the OP. Again, above everything I have just said and all the hate towards everyone and their opinion, you are supposed to post your songs not judge mine.

I think we need some new voices to be brought in on the music that they make. Much like they are using known actors for the roles in these zombie experiences. However, if we are talking previous being reproduced for the next zombies game from Treyangle, we need Elena and her borderline Sour Patch Kids voice. She can take you on a ride to the sun then burn you in the sun's rays. Included with this singer of choice should be heavy metal riffs that make me want to revisit songs that I used to love. As for Sledgehammer, I think the classical style music can work if they choose the correct piece for the map in question. I certainly hope A7X makes some more tunes but my hopes are more for the style of open throat vocals, not deep shrouded, pig-like vocals. Anyways, I'm looking for heavy riffs and solid tempos and keeping the structure and integrity of the song flowing is the voice of an angel or that of a demon.

I agree with you, Voyager. Kids are very special in terms of their mental capacity. It seems on the outside that they know nothing because they don't understand what humans have been made to assimilate to. On the inside, however, a universe is beginning to be created with its own laws and its own concepts of rules.

This topic is to get it all out. Post your favorite song to listen to while killing the dead. Provide setlists, recommendations, and other various artifacts that would make our experience with the dead more than the gun. Updated list with more artists: Anthrax: - Deathrider - Metal Thrashing Mad - A.I.R. - Medusa - Among the Living - Caught in a Mosh - I Am the Law - Skeleton in the Closet - Imitation of Life - Schism - Fight 'Em Til You Can't - Earth On Hell - Judas Priest - Iron Maiden: - Be Quick or Be Dead - Where Eagles Dare - Aces High - Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Moonchild - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - Only the Good Die Young - Transylvania - Judas Priest: - Judas Rising - Demonizer - Hellrider - Freewheel Burning - Painkiller - Hell Patrol - All Guns Blazing - Leather Rebel - Metal Meltdown - Between the Hammer & the Anvil - Battle Hymn/One Shot at Glory - Metalizer - Let us Pray/Call for the Priest - Dissident Aggressor - Exciter - Sinner - Starbreaker - Dreamer Deceiver - Riding on the Wind - Screaming for Vengeance - Devil's Child - Ram it down - Hard as Iron - Dragonaut - Halls of Valhalla - Sword of Damocles - Secrets of the Dead - Battle Cry - Megadeth*: - Wake Up Dead - The Conjuring - Devil's Island - Good Mourning/Black Friday - Bad Omen - My Last Words - Last Rites/Loved to Death - Killing is my Business... And Business is Good! - The Skull Beneath the Skin - Rattlehead - Looking Down the Cross - These Boots - Take No Prisoners - Five Magics - Poison Was the Cure - Tornado of Souls - Rust in Peace... Polaris - Hook in Mouth - Blackmail the Universe - Kick the Chair - Sleepwalker - This Day We Fight! - Headcrusher - Death: - Crystal Mountain - 1,000 Eyes - Zombie Ritual - Evil Dead - Scavenger of Human Sorrow - The Flesh and The Power it Holds - To Forgive is To Suffer - D.R.I.: - Thrash Hard - Enemy Within - Suit and Tie Guy - Austrian Death Machine**: - You Have Just Been Erased - If It Bleeds, We Can Kill It - I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots, and Your Motorcycle - See You at the Party, Richter - Come On, Do It, Do It, Come On, Come On, Kill Me, Do It Now - I'll Be Back - It's Turbo Time - Running Wild: - Soldiers of Fortune - Victim of States Power - Motorhead: - Heartbreaker - Coup de Grace - End of Time - Death Machine - Overkill - See Me Burning - Wake the Dead - Slayer: - War Ensemble - Seasons in the Abyss - Dissident Aggressor - Sabaton: - Night Witches - The Lion from the North - The Carolean's Prayer - Ruina Imperii - Coat of Arms - Midway - White Death - Metal Ripper - Thundergods - Hellrider - Metalizer - Burn Your Crosses - Thunderstorm - Dream Destroyer - Sun Tzu Says/Ghost Division - The Art of War - Firestorm - Reign of Terror - Panzer Battalion - Counterstrike - Stalingrad - Into the Fire - Metal Machine - This set list should be enough for a solid 50 round game on exo zombies. Maybe even longer if you find yourself still playing. *All the Megadeth songs must be heard from the original record. The remastered versions have been destroyed by the born-again christian Dave Mustaine. All that cool satanic stuff has pretty much been edited from history. **Austrian Death Machine is more of a comedy band based off the quotes of Arnold Schwarzenegger. The lyrics are not to be payed too much attention to or else your gameplay experience may become more funny than Brutal. I only recommend Austrian Death Machine to well trained veterans.

If we create the concept of this all being an imagination we can create a comprehensible explanation to the entire game. I have some points that I need to place in the field, so this may be a bit winded. First off, I'd like to point out the big concept of two universes colliding. The "Agartha" concept and the real world. If we look at it from a perspective of childhood toys and games of the sort, we can surmise that it was always a game and the ending to Origins was simply a huge twist that probably, most certainly, twisted all our panties in a bunch. Remember, the whole mode took off when we noticed a zombie who screamed "SAM!" The game mode was structured on a fluke of a recording. Not only that, the maps that we were given in World at War were all remakes of existing multiplayer maps, excluding Shi No Numa. To my knowledge that was an entirely original map. The point is, the creators as well as the community shaped a universe of imagination that sky rocketed into the idea of having its own video game. The ending to origins, on a much higher level of understanding, is a metaphor for how big this small, children's game became. In my eyes, the old maps were not 100% story driven, obviously, but as we put dots together the maps and reasoning behind the maps became less and less clear. This is how a good story works. You start with a small concept and write the story as you go along. However, this process has a lot of backfires in terms of story because previous lines will debunk future lines and vice versa. The best way for the community and the zombies story to be cleared of any conceptual discharge is to either go back and remaster all the maps for an in depth look as to why we were there, what the story was at the time, and to give us a better understanding of the story OR they can say that it was in fact a game and the colliding of universes was the collision of the Imagination and the Real World. My evidence is simply all the references to real world events like Tranzit. This map was based on a concept called Green Run in which the U.S. government released fission products into a local area. This explains the mass amount of fog in Tranzit and such. The map also had references to things like HAARP, Bohemian Grove, and don't get me started on all the Illuminati symbolism. The underlying story on top of the zombies is global domination. Something conspiracy theorists sink their teeth into once every full moon. Anyways, the next game could make or break the story. It could either explain the entire story using community ideas, or ideas of their own, or they could relate everything we have done to real world events which we will see as we continue the story with the kids at the ending to Origins. I would like to see the zombies world collide with the real world. An example would be, the kids go down to see Maxis and he's talking to say... Adam Weishaup. Far fetched, but an example is an example. They talk for a couple of minutes about things like Bohemian Grove, Human Sacrifice, things these two kids have never thought of before. The story continues and yadda yadda, the kids are done and go upstairs to play some more. This is where the game starts. We reenact what the kids imagine to be taking place in the real world with their toys and trinkets. The kids go to bed, wake up and see their father playing with reality in his new inventions, experiments, what have you. Wash, rinse, repeat. Now, the story can't be as shitty as my explanation but the point should be clear to you, the reader. My second bite was the whole understanding of the game. I feel lost in certain areas but maybe I'm not. Some on here are concerned about why Samantha wants to help you and such. Even though Richtofen hates the shite out of Samantha and vice voisa. If we look at it again, from an imaginative perspective, the reason she helps is only to progress the story. What type of fun game could you play with your siblings that has no progress or story. The point is to create a special universe that has these special characters of random importance completing out of this world tasks for the amusement of the player. Now if we look at the specific events that take place like Call of the Dead or even Mob of the Dead. Call of the Dead had someone who has a big imagination. Someone who filmed a black and white movie starring a black man who never expected his idea to reach the limits of popularity as it has today. It's as if the story is right in front of us. Some could say that the kids watched the movies and wanted to create something big as well or you can look at it from a metaphorical view. The map Call of the Dead started out as a normal emotionless film set, as if nothing that was about to happen was planned and suddenly Director George is being carried away by a zombie. Someone was high when that happened. No explanation, no clear reason, it all just happened and is happening and you are going along without question. You found the guys who were in previous maps and decide to help them because we all have hard ons for Richtofen's gay innuendos. Mob of the Dead could be more of a challenge to explain. This map could simply detail the whole zombie world as a whole. Each map is a never ending cylce of kill, reload, kill, reload, new weapon, kill, reload, repeat. I feel that this map was a calling to end the cycle of never ending zombie slaying. It was the first of its kind and still is a wonderful map to play on. On the other, less sweaty hand, Mob of the Dead could have simply been foreshadowing. All stories must end even beyond what you thought was the end. The characters within this map thought that by escaping, you would end your misery. To their dismay, the end was far from reach. Electric chairs become apparent, the end is nigh once again. But no, to their dismay, the end is once again far from reach. As if the emotions of the characters can match the emotion behind the ending to Origins. That the end seemed so close but once again far from our pathetic hands. In closing, my thoughts are in fact ALL OVER THE PLACE. Bear with the spastic thoughts of mine. To make it clear as day, the story is a reflection of the world as we know it, being told through a game because no one wants to go research Green Run just because some jack ass doesn't like the government. No they will research Green Run if it has to do with a zombie story and a scientist who is obsessed with long rods. The concept of the game is simple, to progress. The bombs and max ammos only exist to further your torment. If you ended your life right then and there, you wouldn't be frantically trying to survive by the skin of your teeth. The same could be said about the real world. A lot of people are suffering but they trudge on for some odd reason that is unclear to all of existence. I feel like my characters "The Gatsbys" can explain it best. "It's all a metaphor! You don't exist!"

Alright, gang. I like the conversations and input. It's good to hear people have an opinion on their preference in zombie music. On a quick side note, I'd like to thank Lenne for pulling a fast one and getting Sledgehammer to add the fantastic classical song. I had my doubts until I realized that classical music definitely accents the killing of the undead. However, I must admit that I laughed when I heard that this was the song. In light of all your interest in what makes a good zombie set list, I've put together a solid soundtrack that I recommend to "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner". Anthrax: - Deathrider - Metal Thrashing Mad - A.I.R. - Medusa - Among the Living - Caught in a Mosh - I Am the Law - Skeleton in the Closet - Imitation of Life - Schism - Fight 'Em Til You Can't - Earth On Hell - Judas Priest - Iron Maiden: - Be Quick or Be Dead - Where Eagles Dare - Aces High - Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Moonchild - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - Only the Good Die Young - Transylvania - Judas Priest: - Judas Rising - Demonizer - Hellrider - Freewheel Burning - Painkiller - Hell Patrol - All Guns Blazing - Leather Rebel - Metal Meltdown - Between the Hammer & the Anvil - Battle Hymn/One Shot at Glory - Metalizer - Let us Pray/Call for the Priest - Dissident Aggressor - Exciter - Megadeth*: - Wake Up Dead - The Conjuring - Devil's Island - Good Mourning/Black Friday - Bad Omen - My Last Words - Last Rites/Loved to Death - Killing is my Business... And Business is Good! - The Skull Beneath the Skin - Rattlehead - Looking Down the Cross - These Boots - Take No Prisoners - Five Magics - Poison Was the Cure - Tornado of Souls - Rust in Peace... Polaris - I would put more but as I type this I have been invited to play a game of zombies. So this will have to do. *Note: Megadeth songs must be heard from the original album, not the remastered versions. Again, listen to the all the songs on the original recorded version. Trust me when I say, the born again Dave Mustaine fucked up all the original satanic songs. So there it is in plain text.

@Tattoo247 I understand that the lyrics have made an impact on the story mode and that we know more through the lyrics but lately I feel that the story has become more on the exterior than the interior. I know there is still a mystery in the story that the lyrics may clear up, but how much of the story will it clear up. For me the lyrics didn't change my experience for the better. Sometimes it kind of killed a map for me. My opinion says that in the future, lyrics either need to reflect the map or, as the tradition goes, describes where we are in the story now.

I understand the obsession with Elena. She is very talented when she wants to be. However, vocals aren't of a major concern for me. I feel like we can all agree that when we slay, the last thing we listen for are the lyrics that are being spouted. Although it does help with the mood when they say something like "Bury them nice bury them deep, use the knife to make them sleep." Or whatever nonsensical lyrics you want to tow. I look for the shredding guitar solos that accent my weapon firing like bunnies banging. Especially double kick pedals from the drummer. The best thing I could find that would be appropriate would be a compilation song featuring a great guitarist, a magical singer (it could be Elena or Bruce Dickinson or Dio from the grave), a strong drummer like the guy from Death, and a bassist that makes me wet my front end. It would be more work than just some random assortment of members but I think it would be more unique. I would also like to add that classical music would work in the sense that LONG songs are welcome. The short radio songs don't work because these zombie games can last for longer than 4 mins. I would like to see endurance songs start to flesh out and make an appearance. Songs like A.D.I./Horror Of It All (Anthrax 7:49), Sign of the Southern Cross (Black Sabbath 7:47), Good Mourning/Black Friday (Megadeth 6:39), or even as far as Rime of the Ancient Mariner (Iron Maiden 13:34), lets not forget the almighty Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (Iron Maiden 9:53). These songs have strong emotional changes at some point and are akin to the styles of classical composers, simply for their length and endurance-like play through. Long dense songs full of solos and meaningful wordage would certainly make my hokey pokey want to smokey. Side note: I highly recommend all the songs I post for music enthusiasts and metal heads alike. I have high hopes for all the things I enjoy so I'm just gonna put this out there; Stargazer (Rainbow 8:32), A Light In The Black (Rainbow 8:11)

I love music. I love how music can sometimes accent an emotion or an action. Sometimes the wrong music can distill the mood. Sometimes Black Ops 2 makes me cry. Sometimes it doesn't. Anyways, Zombies is known for its heavy sounding, ultra pounding music. As in the easter eggs that feature metal artists like Avenged Sevenfold and... others. So, obviously besides Elena and Avenged, the set list for Zombies is quite small and condensed. Excluding the dude who enjoyed his moments in Tranzit and Die Rise and excluding DOA music, we may need to give some suggestions regarding the music we should be killing to. You all might have already discussed this but now I'm here and I have nothing else to talk about. So here is a set list that I recommend be considered: Helloween - Ride the Sky Anthrax - (Anything from) Among the Living Black Sabbath - Voodoo Judas Priest - (Anything from) Painkiller Megadeth - Bad Omen Really, anything from the 80s is just fantastic. That Sabbath song is in there for the lyrics, it's not recommended for hype. I don't think it really matters what song we want since rights are of a major concern. It's better to dream than to live, so tell me what I should listen to while I kill people.