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Back to Verruckt-I was reading back in some early early posts from the Rezurrection that there were two radios in Verruckt, but they may not have any audio. Still, something that we may want to point out. One was around Double Tap somewheres. The numbers recited by the automated voice in the power room are a nod to the TV show 'Lost.' Perks made their first appearance here, and this may be where the first four were concocted. Can one of y'all confirm whether the chair in the USAF room from the Kino teleport sequence is indeed the same?

THE BELOW IS A BREAKDOWN OF WHY THE HANGING BODY AT SSN IS NOT PROVEN TO BE PETER MCKAY, AND WHY THE HAND IS NOT PROVEN HIS. @Tac I need to create a dedicated thread for this, but here was the outline I sent to my "review board" pals (Nightmare and Monkeys being two) After hours of study and wracking my brains today (stacked on years of study by myself and others) Investigation: The Identity of the Hanging Man of Shi No Numa Goal: Rattle What is Considered to be "Fact" (It is Peter) Theory to be Debunked: The body hanging at Shi No Numa is Dr. Peter McKay* MAIN POINT 1: Black Ops Terminal: Swamp.txt "The following is a transcript of a recording that originated at the Group 935 outpost dubbed "The Swamp." The voice heard in the recording belongs to the handler(1) of the operative "PETER" who went missing at an unknown time prior to the sending of this message. The operative is presumed dead and the location of Shi No Numa has yet to be resolved." MAJOR EV.2: Recording Originating at SNN AUTOMATED: R-408n 37 14 06 115 48 40 C. PERNELL: I hope that you are receiving this transmission, Peter; if you are not, then all is already lost. You must know by now that we(2) failed to contain the asylum, that we(2) had to move the experiment here.(2) Location. The numbers will guide you. The giant must remain...at all costs. Repeat: Der Riese must be contained at all costs. The DG-2 experiments continue(2). You may be our only advantage now. Find Doctor Richtofen and Doctor Maxis(2). They may know what’s going on. The use of Element 115 is dangerous at best. I’m not sure if we can continue here(3). We’ve lost most of our best...team. I hope you get this. I hope it hasn’t happened there too. But I’m almost all out of hope. AUTOMATED: 60 54 06.96 101 55 44.94 So clearly, C. Pernell was with group 935 as well. So, in order of events as they occurred: P.McKay is transferred from Der Riese to Verruckt, final transmission to C.Pernell (source: terminal) August, or sometime before 10 September 1945 - Verruckt overrun, 935 personnel evacuate, experiments relocated (Source: CotD, SNN) September 10, 1945 - Marines arrive at Verruckt, there is already a severed hand on the power switch and the dentists' chair. (Source: Just the Beginning Trailer, Verruckt WAW) Dempsey captured, the others killed by the horde (Source: CotD, Verruckt WAW) Richtofen becomes suspicious of P.McKay (source: CotD) OSS intercepts transmission from secret 935 facility "The Swamp" (source: terminal) Dempsey, Nikolai and Takeo arrive at SNN, find the hanging body. So two things of note: P.McKay was transferred to Verruckt C.Pernell implies that he (Pernell) may have been at Verruckt when it was overrun, "we failed to contain...we had to move the experiment here." If he was, he would have been there after McKay, as, following McKay's transfer, Pernell heard nothing more from him, increasing the likelihood that the severed hand may actually be his (Pernell's) He finishes, expressing dying hope. A body is found missing a hand at Shi No Numa. *Spelling based on Richtofen's log from CotD. Are there any KNOWN instances of his name being spelled one way or another in official material? 1. Cornelius Pernell 2. Group 935. Pernell knows Maxis and Richtofen, the DG-2 and the status of the tests 3. "Here" may be SNN or may be the location given in coordinates (Siberia) (Source: CotD, all the empty shipping containers with restraints). The thing I cannot get over, however, is how the terminal directly states that the radios at SNN originated at SNN, and that they are the voice of C.Pernell, meaning C.Pernell would have been at SNN.

We're on Verruckt. What do we know to be absolutely true about Verruckt-could be anything.

I have my own hesitations about assigning the hand to Peter, solely because the timeline of events during the Verruckt outbreak is too up-in-the-air to be certain of anything. What evidence points to it being someone else, however? As for the spies, I wasn't aware that it was popular opinion to think they were MKUltra spies. The radio very distinctly mentions the OSS haha! Only posting this because I am taking this video down, due to it being wrong about a couple things, and poorly edited, and my phone is about to die, so I can't go into detail yet, here I discussed it in detail. I'll be taking the vid down this evening. I may be wrong about MKUltra. maybe I bumped into too many people who said that, because yeah, the radio is pretty exact about that. Hence me taking this video down. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8VAC8Dgq18

Sounding good so far. I just want to emphasize, however, that the hand on the power switch is not confirmed to be Peter's, contrary to popular opinion. The evidence points to someone else. Of course, the terminal talks about it a good deal. Dempsey is the captured spy, confirmed by the CotD radios in conjunction with the terminal and Pernell's "Handler's Notes" in which Dempsey is named as commander, which may not seem to add up until we note that the marines were a recconasaince unit, aka, scouts, which are basically uniformed spies. Richtofen states that he is being brought to replace the Mexican, and when he arrives, you can clearly hear Dempsey, and he is eventually seen again at SNN. We might note that Peter's handler, Cornelius Pernell was seemingly well informed, if not involved with Group 935 at Verruckt, and was responsible for the dispatching of the unit to Verruckt. Also, contrary to popular opinion, Pernell, Yena, McKay, Dempsey and the others were OSS spies, not MKUltra spies, as MKUltra was not established until '53.

Nothing that bugs me more than a far-fetched theory that straight-up contradicts known fact. Let's do this thing. I think we concluded Nacht, right? I think we ought to include as a fact, however, that Treyarch, at the time had no plans for a zombies story-at least, none that they followed through with as they began listening to our community and were inspired. So although there are some fun little things there like the writing on the walls, the plane, and the radio, it has no confirmed relevance to the storyline aside from the fact that group 935 lost containment of the zombies at their research facilities and they may have found their way to Nacht. If so, then, let's start Verruckt.

This was a great thread. How do you propose to revive it however? I'm unsure, to be honest. Now that we know everything is canon, I'm able to get rid of the section in which we theorize about different facts depending on the state of Origins, so that's nice. I may re-purpose the thread or make a new one, but into what is the question. I want the goal of the thread to stay the same: get the core facts and branch out a little into theories. Suggestions on how to do that? Okay, after going back and reviewing the thread so far, I think this should become a reference point. A separate thread (maybe call it "Zombies Canon Thread") should be created with finalized posts by map based on the info that we come to a positive conclusion on here. Either write them yourself, or assign one of us to a map, and we'll go into that thread and write ours in chronological order. Make sense? I think this could be invaluable. Heck, I tried to start a YouTube channel based on this kinda stuff. We need it. @Nightmare Voyager @PINNAZ @Kill_All_Monkeys GET IN HERE, you bloody buncha canon lawyers!

I'm pretty convinced at this point that the hanging body may be Pernell, based on the info I sent y'all a couple weeks ago.

Yes, The Giant occurs sometime after October 1945, based on the CotD radios. Also, I am not convinced the Treyarch has used retrospective time travel, as that could cause a grandfather paradox. Besides, Richtofen straight up says in Origins that they powered it using 115, so it would seem that the giant was built in the second decade of the 20th century and perhaps Der Riese was attempting to restore it.

They are the iron cross symbols. And time does stop when Maxis and Sam are teleported, perhaps that has something to do with it. Time travel in Shangri La brought on an eclipse as I recall, so maybe the NO4 traveling here activated one too somehow. I think it's an indication of them being in a pocket universe, with teleportation being the only way out. The Iron Cross was actually used by Nazi Germany as well, it just doesn't stand out the way the swastica does. I'm thinking this is just a sensitive transition to less controversial symbolism.

The Iron Cross on the teleporter is a German symbol, actually. Not Templar.

http://www.callofdutyzombies.com/index.php?/topic/157574-481b-386a-the-missing-blood-vials-from-motd/&page=1 Wow, I have to admit that's a good find. Now we know they're still here (though we could have suspected)! Actually, I was referring to the clock in the background. The minute hand is at 9:00.

naw, it's cool! Not mad. Insanely hyped!

No, @Lenne, I know the vials. THE CLOCK!!!

Guys. Dafuq am I looking at. Holy Toledo. My mind is whirling. I don't know what to make of this.

This was a great thread. How do you propose to revive it however?

I would post more, but I'm afraid the forum won't allow me to. I think I have used my whole volume. And I understand @Lenne and the other German members' stance on it. The whole thing is a pain in the arse for them. If Treyarch entirely leaves it out...while it will throw my illusion of realism off a bit, I'm sure they'll make it awesome and feel period the same way they did Origins.

The pic of the zombie's crusher hat that I posted a minute ago was interesting, though. @Lenne @urbanrooster but we had this convo way a back this year. Guess we'll see if the versions vary by nationality.

Clear shot at the blackboard!

Couldn't help but notice that these three are in this teleporter without Richtofen.

They confirmed this months ago. Link I HIGHLY doubt there isn't something new. Doesn't surprise me that they didn't show any. Not in the slightest. THESE KICKASS ZOMBIES, THOUGH! I am so hyped. SO HYPED! OHHHRRRRRMERGHERRRRD! FORGET SOE! THIS IS THE SHIZ!

LOL! Same, sans the digital copy.

Oh, I have a cig now and again. :B

TBH, me personally...I don't care too much about technicalities. You know me, I'm all about story. Heh heh.