TimelordAlex

you can still pre-order it digitally for them though, its now been removed from the xbox store and its annoying as you can pre-load it on there now.

does anyone know whats going on with the xbox BO3 download being removed, i was gonna buy digital deluxe, now i cant

How come you get it much earlier @DeathBringerZen ?

i think its dead ops as well, but i wouldnt call that a big unlock, i'd expect a proper map to be a big unlock.

I will be on Xbox One mate. Not sure about Adam but I know a lot of the regulars I run with will also be on X1 irregardless of DLC exclusively on PS4 or not. This me aswell.

What is the cosmic silverback?

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I was merely stating that the campaign team were behind those maps, the rest is more my interpretation of it all, as for the map names, i just got used to calling them that - but not from PTG, i never watched their vids

@Rissole25 source on what part exactly

I have hope that more effort is being put into The giant than anything was in Nuketown mainly because Jason Blundell is now in charge of zombies. Every map in BO2 that was made from Jimmy Z being the creative lead kinda sucked, Transhit, Nuketown, Die Rise, so after this, he was pushed aside and JB came in and took charge of MOTD and he showed how a good map is made, they gave JZ another chance and he came up with Buried which while was better than his previous maps in the game, it was no MOTD, and thus he was pushed aside again, JB took charge of Origins, and that arguably surpassed all other BO2 maps, he listened to the fans, gave us back the old crew with a twist, there was a WW of sorts for each player. And I think after MOTD/Origins winning the best BO2 map awards, JZ was pushed aside completely. And now JB is in charge of SoE which will be awesome, with The Giant aswell, i think that will be just as good aswell, better than Trashtown for sure.

i hope it has a toggable first person mode in-game.

An achievement mentions SoE having multiple 'Districts' which i believe are different areas of the map, I would like to see parts of the map broken up into Survival and Grief maps, but like how Cell Block was made, they actually customized it unlike the poor cut-up sections from tranzit being no different at all. Cell Block has PHD and Mule Kick but no Jugg unlike MOTD, I would still like to see a reason to play these parts of the maps in other modes. Plus tbh, if SoE has a tedious setup like Origins, I'd prefer just jumping in an area of the map and surviving like The Giant will be.

Maybe it'll be a repeat of BO1, on release, we have an okayish map the giant (like Kino) and a great map SoE (like FIVE), and of course the imo pointless DOA, but the upside to that is that all DLC maps will be great.

These achievements were put on PSN, so unless we're gonna say they have leaked them? Though Xbox have yet to have any of this up yet.

The time they wasted on that, could've been put towards a third proper map on release. I wouldnt mind it if we could play it first person as well, which apparently was planned from the PC BO1 files. It is the least played map on BO1, at least non DLC anyway. I always got confused which character i was controlling and ended up dying all the time and this just made it not fun at all.

Sigh why DOA 2, didnt they learn that didnt get the best reception, are we gonna get Tran$hit back aswell?

How you can prefer the BO1 box weapons, but overall prefer the BO2 box?

I leave the game if I get the MTAR, no question. I have grown to hate it that much that I cannot obtain it from the box when its one of my first few weapons without leaving. I've only left the game once because of bad box weapons and that was on Nuketown (surprise suprise), i had 4k to spend on the box, RPG, War Machine, SMR and an Executioner, i was mad, i tried to make up more points, hit box again, got FAL, then again, a teddy - i then left.

I sigh at the sight of all of them, MTAR and RPD i deal with in the early rounds, I got the DSR 3 times in a row in origins once and god was i annoyed. I love the Commando in BO1, and its equivalent for me in BO2 is the M27, but thats only in one map. Type 25 is so bad compared to the Commando

AN-94 was never a box weapon, and the type 25 as mentioned above was garbage for its recoil and low ammo count, it was like the Famas from BO1 but worse.

I felt like the BO2 box weapon selection was a joke in the new crew based maps, lets have a look at the good guns. Galil Paralyzer (only in one map) Ray Gun Mark 2 (rarest gun in the box) Have I missed something? A lot of guns became obsolete to me when a bunch of recoil was added to them (cough HAMR cough) LSAT and M27 were sweet but oh look, Nuketown exclusive. Origins had the best box selection imo, they only kept the War machine and not the RPG aswell, and brought in the skorpion, MG08 and other cool stuff.

I think ATV made the decision last minute to put this on last gen consoles, not knowing of how many issues could occur with that, and its gone this far and they've either thought we'll remove the campaign or bin the project completely, and they've obviously gone for the no campaign so they get some money, but the fact that they've said much about DLC other than no nuketown or giant makes me think they wont get DLC, and players will just get a dumbed down base game

Good, last gen users need to upgrade. And I dont think last gen will get any DLC at all tbh, no giant or nuketown to makes it clear

The Wave Gun, The Shrink Ray, The Winters Howl are the top 3 WWs I want to return first. I would like the QED and Gersch to re-appear as well

Yeah i hope it will come back in The Giant and acts the same as it should and hasnt been nerfed down or anything. I think the only way we will see the good old WWs again is if there maps get re-made again. But the Thundergun, Wunderwaffe and Winters Howl are not map exclusive WWs like the others are said to be, so they can be brought back. And also am I the only one who is sick of monkeys (pretty sure they were in every BO2 map)? Bring back my gersch device pleaseeee