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@certainpersonio Actually i only seperated them to get the matrix how it should look like... i think thats not how it could be solved (did the math and the permutation of 5/115 is too high...) But i had time to get a little deeper in transpositions... The hardest part is that you need to use the spaces (because i dont get plain of your solved cipher without spaces so far) With that in mind(that it should be a cipher like you solved) we need to factor the number of letters with spaces and build the matrices which could fit... there are so many ways and i have no clue like the numbers (115) in the other cipher except the letter " q"which should be followed by the letter "u" Wow just got another clue while writing this.... the solution letter shows us the factors of the used letters kn the cipher... Example: cipher has 75 letters - so factors are 5x5x3 - then you make the matrices which fit this: 3x25 5x15, 15x5 and 25x3...got it? Need to check this 5x25x? And 5x15x? Maybe only letters without spaces.. or with it? Need to check your solution again... But for now i go to sleep ?? Edit: @certainpersonio You got 20,25 The clue from the solutionletter was 5,25 The factor of 500 is 2x2x5x5x5 5x5 is 25 So leftover is 2x2x5 That is 20 So in the end it end up to 20,25 So the other cipher clue is 5,15 So that should be ????x5x5x3 There could be 525 Which has the factors 3x5x5x7 So the matrix could be edit 2: Clue 5,15 So you Get 15x35 right?? If i have time i will try it this evening But i hope it helps

@certainpersonio you got 84 spaces i got 77... the difference is that you have count the new lines as spaces.... If thats the case there could be more spaces after the line ends but without new lines we got the same.... Further i dont think its a connection to the solution list but i will share my thought on the 15,5 and 5,25 (5,25)If you take the 5th letter from the cipher certainpersonio solved its a "R" from Richthofen (the start of the plain text...) And if you look at the solution he posted there are 25 letters/signs per column.. What do you think? Is the start of the plain text of the unsolved cipher an "o"? And 5 letters per column?....

Soooo keep calm boys keep calm... Is that the end of the ee? Or can you do something as spider? Maybe get the part of the ee?(which you can get only with the gg?) Edit: Can you use traps as spider? Can you go under water? Can you get to any point in the map only as spider?(maybe a sideway in the tunnelsystems or the tunnel from the aa-gun to lap b) Can you enter the boss room? Do you drown if you use it under water? (Can you activate it under water?) What happens if another player melee your cocoon?... Questions...

Thx for the fast respond.... I will inspect it further if its not solved at the weekend but for now i sadly dont have much time: but after q there must be u....And another vokal (a e i o u) And there are two "j" Only related word i know with j is Testsubject So there should be mexican too... Actually there is "mex" in the cipher (second line...) But maybe someone has better hints/ideas

Someone can say what the japanese signs means?

Wow... nice work Now you see easy that there are line multiple times - e.g. 24,77 i habe seen 4 times without really searching for it

Edit: i misread - you pointed this out before so So we need to do frequency analysis of the numbers... but thats a lot of work Edit2: i said "letter word worth" before I found it in english Its called word value http://www.geocachingtoolbox.com/index.php?page=wordValue Here is a link to show what i was talking about

if its that easy for you yes pls.. there is a number which you can barely see but not read it clearly because of the "lightreflection" Its under "230,369,242" ********** 《《《《 "88,44,123" Someone can see this? Maybe we need to seperate them in two groups - black and yellow.... i hope you know what i want to say ?

That sure was a lot of work...the only thing i thought was pollux (morsecode cipher) (key needed) It still could be a sort of ascii... or a "simple" substitution (number 5 =e and bigger numbers like 44 you need the "letter word worth" "buchstabenwortwert" in german - dont know how it called in englisch..but i will look for it at the weekend Thank you for the transcription

I never tried to freeze zombies directly under the rocket with widows wine .. maybe there are more ee to find in d.e.

Or 767... but someone has an idea?

Do somebody have theater of the bossfight? We are still missing ciphers I thought about the tunnel system and the " boss rooms" (elevator etc) I'm still looking forward to do the easter egg and look for myself but psn has problems in germany... Further it could be a codelist for ciphers which we have encountered before too.. someone has a list of solphed ciphers with their solutions and can compare if they match up somewhere? (I saw the soe thread but dont have time to look at all the vids) Then there are the bios....i tried already with the giant and nikolai but could not find something with the transpositioncodes...

The "zombie eating plant" actually dont eat the zombie - it cut the zombie off the feets and hold it for a while - actually good for get things done - you dont want to advance to the next rounds while doing the rituals in smal places...

Again they have make a mistake... treyarch why you do this? It destroyed the game with randoms on soe and now it destroys playing with randoms on zns... On soe they fixed the inventory... now on zns you have to do the skull step.... but treyarch dont made a shared inventory and so you cannot go further because someone takes a skull and dont place it down... Further my "team" taked all the buckets before the bunker and didnt know how to power the labs.... Edit: got in another game with randoms - its one of the best map for four players - if they know how to play the map (pr at least the game itself)- i liked it till the game crashed... Psn "down"

Actually i lost a little the motivation to play zombies - no new weapon kits or new scopes to rank up.... i'm looking forward to do the ee in zns and earn the trophys but the psn always disconnect... i dont like spoilers or look others gameplay before i find out myself where to go and what to do - so far i got the skull,kt4 , gas mask, pap... i died at the big spider... Someone knows if there is a ee if you kill all the spiders without missing a shot? The midboss is far to weak (solo) Died underwater 2 times - it feels like you get onehit killed by zombies?? (Without jug) I will do some co-op and maybe i will change my mind... if psn fix their problems in germany... In this map the deathmachine is actually useful But the only thing i like so far are the challanges

I dont know if you are familiar with dr. who (bbc) but when it comes to time travel you can all explain with that.... About the blood - we have many timelines.... If treyarch will mess up in the ongoing story they can all explain with timetravels.... I remember a quote where nikolai says he killed richthofen three times.... Maybe its their own blood from their future selfs.... and it used in dlc4 And because of the different timelines (timey wimey stuff) the gameplay after the ee cutszene of zns could be gameplay after the end of dlc3... this woulf explain why nikolai has blood vials too.... Know what i mean?

Maybe there has always been a mysterious time traveling Doctor who..... i could not stop smiling while reading this ? Back to topic: quite sure we will get further infos after completing zns.... dlc3...and finally in dlc4 we get the solution

Omg....ascension, mother is clear..... Maybe 25,5 and 15,5 is the transposition cipher code... So more cipher left? Edit: Shinonuma reversed alphabet and reversed key... dont fit the cryptogramcipher...just checked

I played only 20 min so far and looking forward to play at the weekend But i said it before and only can repeat: i dont like water... In multiplayer water is nice and easy because you can "doublejump"... in zombies it only distract your view... Further i checked the weapon kits and i am a little bit disappointed that nothing is added... But i will check this all again this weekend

Nice work everyone...i actually dont had time to play the map itself but i will start at the weekend....i hope we find another one but for now lets go back to der eisendrache

Yes ascension, shangri la , verrückt.... I wonder if the two unsolved from d.e. have too something to do with the names...

Nice nice :) Please let me know what exactly you mean? I think its the part about 20 /19 With 21/19 it should be more clear Count the letters between the numbers (21) You know what i mean?

i dont know if i understand the wikipedia part correct - for me it simply explain what a crossword is? Kreuzworträtsel in german I'm looking forward to the solutions of the jap. Phrases.... I was talking about the coordinates of the starting room cipher

@Schrödinger @tEfugleskremmel I actually waited for this: With the cipher from the starting room (under water) you can build a crodswordtable... i dont really know how exactly but maybe someones is here who know how to do it... hope this helps with deciphering it...

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