Nachtsonne

[Paul]

This is something that caught my eye when watching a video on Der Riese recently. I didn't give it much thought, and unfortunately, I can't give much more than just thought. But if you look into the sky, there is a black star. I believe this is the mystical 'Night Sun', or Nachtsonne, as it is called in German. It is also known as the 'Black Sun' in English as well as the Night Sun. It has several links with the occult, and could actually suggest that the Nazi Zombies story is ongoing in another galaxy or dimension or something. The Nazis were fascinated by the occult, and the Nachtsonne was the jewel in the crown of the occult, from what I can see. Amongst uses, it was a Nazi occult symbol as I said above. However, it is also still used by pagans in Germany today, according to Wikipedia. Now... we shall advance this absurd theory of mine some more:

Die Glocke. The Bell. German experiments that were kept top-secret. What is meant to give you the Type 99? Yup, hitting a bell. The Nazis were working on a Wonder Weapon, or Wunderwaffe, as many people will know it. Owing to the fact we can't use the T99 and nobody has an idea what it would be like Pack-a-Punched, could it be another Wunderwaffe? Maybe not the standard version of the weapon, but when PaP'd... maybe... just maybe, we're onto something.

One of the beliefs about the Die Glocke experiments is that it could re-animate the dead. Zombies are re-animated corpses. Coincidence? Probably not. Now, this part is going to be made as obvious as possible. The SS scienttists working on the experiment worked at a facility known as The Giant. Want that in German? DER RIESE. Time and space manipulation was meant to be another part of the experiment. Considering the fact that the Nachtsonne is above Der Riese, could this be set in a situation where the experiments had been successful, and there was an alternate space and time continuum? Now, I don't know if Red Mercury or Xerum 525 are present in the game referencing or not, but it seems likely to have something to do with it all.

More to add to this idea of mine: there was a meeting held between the heads of the secret societies, such as the Thule Society. The men present were discussing a message they had apparently received... from a completely different space system, called Aldebaran. Aldebaran is in the Taurus cluster, and is the brightest star. The name is Arabic for 'The Follower'. The Nazis followed the Nachtsonne and saw it as a valuable piece of the occult. Plus the Nachtsonne is meant to be a star that burnt out over time and has become invisible. Should Aldebaran burn out it could become a black sun...

The Germans worked on a testing-bed for their experiment known as the 'Fly Trap'. Wasn't there a Fly Trap in Der Riese? The experiment was in Siechnice. This is a direct quote from the page as I'm lazy, and this gets it across perfectly:

In his book, Hitler's Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology, Stevens wrote about a conversation in the early sixties between a friend's father and his boss at NASA, Otto Cerny, a German scientist from Operation Paperclip. At first Cerny was only vague about his previous work, dismissing it as "weird experiments on the nature of time". However, he later drew a structure made of a circle of stones with a ring around the top along with a second ring from which something hung. At some point during the conversation Cerny described similar to a concave mirror on top of the device allowing "images from the past" to be seen during its operation. He claimed that it was possible to "go back and witness things", but not to go forward

One of the things written is that the Wunderwaffe is the DG-2. DG=Die Glocke? Possibly. Now, the italicised piece above might not have any bearing, but it is a fascinating read. Maybe someone could add to this part of my inane theory?

[Zieghail]

Its all pretty interesting stuff eh? I use to read all about it. I'm a bit of a history buff, and even though these are consiracies and theories, they had an impact on a lot of things. And who can say its all completely false? Nobody.

I don't know about Zombies in space and stuff. :D

[Paul]

Its all pretty interesting stugg eh? I use to read all about it. I'm a bit of a history buff, and even though these are consiracies and theories, they had an impact on a lot of things. And who can say its all completely false? Nobody.

I don't know about Zombies in space and stuff. Lol.

I wouldn't say I'm a history buff, but I really enjoy history. Also, random emoticons are always funny. [brains]

[Mr. A]

This is something that caught my eye when watching a video on Der Riese recently. I didn't give it much thought, and unfortunately, I can't give much more than just thought. But if you look into the sky, there is a black star. I believe this is the mystical 'Night Sun', or Nachtsonne, as it is called in German. It is also known as the 'Black Sun' in English as well as the Night Sun. It has several links with the occult, and could actually suggest that the Nazi Zombies story is ongoing in another galaxy or dimension or something. The Nazis were fascinated by the occult, and the Nachtsonne was the jewel in the crown of the occult, from what I can see. Amongst uses, it was a Nazi occult symbol as I said above. However, it is also still used by pagans in Germany today, according to Wikipedia.

Got a picture?

Die Glocke. The Bell. German experiments that were kept top-secret. What is meant to give you the Type 99? Yup, hitting a bell. The Nazis were working on a Wonder Weapon, or Wunderwaffe, as many people will know it. Owing to the fact we can't use the T99 and nobody has an idea what it would be like Pack-a-Punched, could it be another Wunderwaffe? Maybe not the standard version of the weapon, but when PaP'd... maybe... just maybe, we're onto something.

The Type-99 is Japanese, not German.

[Paul]

Got a picture?

The Type-99 is Japanese, not German.

Unfortunately, I do not have a picture. I don't even own the map pack. I just watch videos and share my theories because I'm too cheap to get the maps, unfortunately. As for the Type 99 you are correct. It's a Japanese weapon. At the same time though, the Germans and Japanese were allies, which you likely know. And additionally, the design for the Bren and the Type 99 is based from some Czech weapon. Did Hitler's army attack Czechoslovakia? I'm not 100% sure... according to Answers.com, they didn't.

[Mr. A]

Find it, then.

[Paul]

Looks like a dark star to me....

[Mr. A]

That's the fucking moon.

[RM_2020]

:facepalm: lol epic fail

[Paul]

That's the moon.

I don't think so. The moon isn't that dark a color. But if you disagree that's fine. I simply shared my theory and you're getting all angry over it. I won't argue with your view. The least you can do is not force it onto me.

[goblue418]

That's the [expletive] moon.

I don't think so. The moon isn't that dark a color. But if you disagree that's fine. I simply shared my theory and you're getting all angry over it. I won't argue with your view. The least you can do is not force it onto me.

its a solar eclipse. the moon is white because it reflects light from the sun. during an eclipse, the suns light cant reflect of the moon because its behind the moon. Therefore, the moon would, indeed, appear dark. I respect your opinion but beleive mine is the truth based on this image:

and btw can edit your post Mr. A and delete the f bomb so carbon isnt pissed when he gets back. also Paul if you could edit that out of your quote that would be fantastic. :D

[Paul]

its a solar eclipse. the moon is white because it reflects light from the sun. during an eclipse, the suns light cant reflect of the moon because its behind the moon. Therefore, the moon would, indeed, appear dark. I respect your opinion but beleive mine is the truth based

Oh, fair enough. I didn't really think of it that way. I imagined it would have been the Black Sun idea owing to the fact it played a part in Nazi mysticism, and would have been a cool little reference or something. Still, thanks for explaining that other idea as well. That was awesome of you :D

[goblue418]

its a solar eclipse. the moon is white because it reflects light from the sun. during an eclipse, the suns light cant reflect of the moon because its behind the moon. Therefore, the moon would, indeed, appear dark. I respect your opinion but beleive mine is the truth based

Oh, fair enough. I didn't really think of it that way. I imagined it would have been the Black Sun idea owing to the fact it played a part in Nazi mysticism, and would have been a cool little reference or something. Still, thanks for explaining that other idea as well. That was awesome of you

haha you never know you could be right. hopefully the story is continued or released some day. thanks for the edit too +1

[Daveyjone]

its a moon, this is on middle brightness so you've probably got it quite dark on yours!

people said there was a teddy on it, cos in the large crater theres a shape in it, it turned out to be a smaller crater (fail ) i got into a large arguement with a large group once, this is where i got the pic.

also, most of what u said about die glocke was right, i'm writing an article for WWK reserchers on the science/history in nazi zombies, this part is a tiny clip from the section on die glocke:

The wunderwaffe is historically called the Die Glocke, the Allies thought Germans wanted to produce a weapon to be able to send charges of electricity through people killing them, another idea was the flytrap, near Germany, people thought it was a testing ground for German scientists to create UFOs, yet all of these theories were false, the Glocke turned out to be the secret codename for… The STG-44. However in the story the Die Glocke weapon is the Wunderwaffe DG2 (Die Glocke Mark 2) which does fire electricity at people.

[Mr. A]

and btw can edit your post Mr. A and delete the f bomb so carbon isnt pissed when he gets back. also Paul if you could edit that out of your quote that would be fantastic.

We're not allowed to swear?

Goddamnit, why did I join these forums?

[Paul]

We're not allowed to swear?

Goddamnit, why did I join these forums?

To discuss Nazi Zombies

But thanks for sharing your theories on this subject. I imagine your theories are much more plausible. If Zombies return though, this would be a sufficient cover as to why the WaW characters could make a return! :D

[goblue418]

and btw can edit your post Mr. A and delete the f bomb so carbon isnt pissed when he gets back. also Paul if you could edit that out of your quote that would be fantastic.

We're not allowed to swear?

Goddamnit, why did I join these forums?

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[Mr. A]

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Damn.

[willis575]

Yeah... it's definitely the moon. Anybody remember the giant flamewar on the old forum regarding weather it was the moon or sun? lolz....

Anyway, maybe your not entirely wrong Mr. A. Perhaps black sun is meant figuratively not literally.

And yeah, the no swearing thing is completely ridiculous and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever =p

[Daveyjone]

Yeah... it's definitely the moon. Anybody remember the giant flamewar on the old forum regarding weather it was the moon or sun? lolz....

Anyway, maybe your not entirely wrong Mr. A. Perhaps black sun is meant figuratively not literally.

And yeah, the no swearing thing is completely ridiculous and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever =p

just put f*** like i do if im saying what someone else said to me, but weere getting off topic :roll:

[Mr. A]

Anyway, maybe your not entirely wrong Mr. A. Perhaps black sun is meant figuratively not literally.

What are you talking about? I wasn't wrong at all, I'm completely correct.

Also, you mean to use you're. Your is possessive.

[willis575]

Anyway, maybe your not entirely wrong Mr. A. Perhaps black sun is meant figuratively not literally.

What are you talking about? I wasn't wrong at all, I'm completely correct.

Also, you mean to use you're. Your is possessive.

*SIGH*

Sorry, I mistook you for the author of this thread. Also, I have a reading disability and it's taken me decades to be able to spell and write as well as I do today so I'm really never in the mood to hear snide quips correcting my grammar.

[Chicano-209]

its a solar eclipse

[Mr. A]

Also, I have a reading disability and it's taken me decades to be able to spell and write as well as I do today so I'm really never in the mood to hear snide quips correcting my grammar.

Just doin' my duty.

[Daveyjone]

its a solar eclipse

AND THATS THE TRUTH FINALLY! [brains]